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Sorry if i insulted you but its true. Buddism is the only religion which hasnt started a war or killed anyone.
Most religions have as one of there founding statements : 'dont kill people for 'ucks sake!
Yet Christianity has killed millions of people, and thats not even counting the 6 million killed by the 'pure, good christian' nazis. And christians like burning people way 2 much
Islam aint much better. Women are treated like piles of crap unless they are in a 1st world country, and terrorists have killed thousands. I cant even begin to count the death toll from there sect fringe wars. Its like red dwarf when the cat people kill each other over the colour of the f'cking hats!
Even the japanese used to use their religion to make an excuse to go into china and rape and kill whatever they could find.
If you put in a religion, i'll find who its killed so far.
Belive what you like, but when you enforce your values on others you become no better than the spanish inquisition,
hitler, or the islamic terrorists.
Most religions have as one of there founding statements : 'dont kill people for 'ucks sake!
Yet Christianity has killed millions of people, and thats not even counting the 6 million killed by the 'pure, good christian' nazis. And christians like burning people way 2 much
Islam aint much better. Women are treated like piles of crap unless they are in a 1st world country, and terrorists have killed thousands. I cant even begin to count the death toll from there sect fringe wars. Its like red dwarf when the cat people kill each other over the colour of the f'cking hats!
Even the japanese used to use their religion to make an excuse to go into china and rape and kill whatever they could find.
If you put in a religion, i'll find who its killed so far.
Belive what you like, but when you enforce your values on others you become no better than the spanish inquisition,
hitler, or the islamic terrorists.
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Sorry if i insulted you but its true. Buddism is the only religion which hasnt started a war or killed anyone.
Most religions have as one of there founding statements : 'dont kill people for 'ucks sake!
Yet Christianity has killed millions of people, and thats not even counting the 6 million killed by the 'pure, good christian' nazis. And christians like burning people way 2 much
Islam aint much better. Women are treated like piles of crap unless they are in a 1st world country, and terrorists have killed thousands. I cant even begin to count the death toll from there sect fringe wars. Its like red dwarf when the cat people kill each other over the colour of the f'cking hats!
Even the japanese used to use their religion to make an excuse to go into china and rape and kill whatever they could find.
If you put in a religion, i'll find who its killed so far.
Belive what you like, but when you enforce your values on others you become no better than the spanish inquisition,
hitler, or the islamic terrorists.
Most religions have as one of there founding statements : 'dont kill people for 'ucks sake!
Yet Christianity has killed millions of people, and thats not even counting the 6 million killed by the 'pure, good christian' nazis. And christians like burning people way 2 much
Islam aint much better. Women are treated like piles of crap unless they are in a 1st world country, and terrorists have killed thousands. I cant even begin to count the death toll from there sect fringe wars. Its like red dwarf when the cat people kill each other over the colour of the f'cking hats!
Even the japanese used to use their religion to make an excuse to go into china and rape and kill whatever they could find.
If you put in a religion, i'll find who its killed so far.
Belive what you like, but when you enforce your values on others you become no better than the spanish inquisition,
hitler, or the islamic terrorists.
Ironic thread heading seeing as the central tenant of Buddhism (nice spelling by the way) is one of peace and not forcing your values on anyone else.
Buddhism is about trying to understand yourself and the place within this world.
However there have been wars waged in the name of Buddhist doctrine. Intially, from the Chang Dynasty of 700 AD the Shaolin Temple and Wu-Tang decided that each temple and church had differing values of Sikarth's teachings, so they engaged in combat.
Hence the birth of Martial Arts.
They then became part of Feudal era Japan's war, and although they didnt start it, they did fight ferociously when The Mongols invaded, driving them out.
Basically, it's only The Chinese that have managed to invade Tibet through the forced exile of the Dalai Llama.
The Buddhists, although generally peaceful, do not shy away from war if necessary.
But as Boddhivista message of "Peace through understanding" is certainly noble, the many years of internal conflicts by various feudal families does not excuse Buddhism from aggressive behaviour.
Buddhism is about trying to understand yourself and the place within this world.
However there have been wars waged in the name of Buddhist doctrine. Intially, from the Chang Dynasty of 700 AD the Shaolin Temple and Wu-Tang decided that each temple and church had differing values of Sikarth's teachings, so they engaged in combat.
Hence the birth of Martial Arts.
They then became part of Feudal era Japan's war, and although they didnt start it, they did fight ferociously when The Mongols invaded, driving them out.
Basically, it's only The Chinese that have managed to invade Tibet through the forced exile of the Dalai Llama.
The Buddhists, although generally peaceful, do not shy away from war if necessary.
But as Boddhivista message of "Peace through understanding" is certainly noble, the many years of internal conflicts by various feudal families does not excuse Buddhism from aggressive behaviour.
Edwin25 wrote:
Yet Christianity has killed
> millions of people, and thats not even counting the 6 million killed by the
> 'pure, good christian' nazis. And christians like burning people way 2
> much
Sorry but what utter drivel. In what sense were Nazis 'pure, good Christians'. I'm sure that is totally incorrect, not to say defamatory and offensive.
And anyway, Islam doesn't treat women like crap. The Koran was very progressive when it comes to women (for the time). The cuture of nations and societies has shaped these predjudices and abuses. Societies shape belief to their own image (look at the differences between the modern permissive Protestant church and the reformation of Martin Luther - religion is not immutable). It is too simple to blame religion when it it simply a veil thrown over more deep seated issues (in Ireland for example, people are not throwing bombs at each other over their differing interpretations of the Eucharist).
Yet Christianity has killed
> millions of people, and thats not even counting the 6 million killed by the
> 'pure, good christian' nazis. And christians like burning people way 2
> much
Sorry but what utter drivel. In what sense were Nazis 'pure, good Christians'. I'm sure that is totally incorrect, not to say defamatory and offensive.
And anyway, Islam doesn't treat women like crap. The Koran was very progressive when it comes to women (for the time). The cuture of nations and societies has shaped these predjudices and abuses. Societies shape belief to their own image (look at the differences between the modern permissive Protestant church and the reformation of Martin Luther - religion is not immutable). It is too simple to blame religion when it it simply a veil thrown over more deep seated issues (in Ireland for example, people are not throwing bombs at each other over their differing interpretations of the Eucharist).
Yeah, what Loki said.
Well, goatboy i can see why you are a notable. But still, Buddism (my spellin' is crap but who cares? :-) ) hasnt really CAUSED any wars has it? No religion is completely non violent, but the only one i can see which has stuck to its values against insane mobs and regimes is buddism.
As for the nazi's, there whole culture was based on the fact that they were the pure aryan race, and God's ultimate creation. By killing off lower races, they were the best christians of all in their eyes. If u check out any nazi website, u will see they still keep that belief today.
As for the Islam (due respect for however wrote the koran from right to left, that must have been hard!) they do treat women as a lower class, but most religions have had a period of that 'women hating' as a result of society rather than dogma. However, i do find that making women wear something all the time, no matter what it is, is wrong. They should have the choice. I sure as hell wouldnt want to have acid thrown on my face for not wearing a cross.
As for the nazi's, there whole culture was based on the fact that they were the pure aryan race, and God's ultimate creation. By killing off lower races, they were the best christians of all in their eyes. If u check out any nazi website, u will see they still keep that belief today.
As for the Islam (due respect for however wrote the koran from right to left, that must have been hard!) they do treat women as a lower class, but most religions have had a period of that 'women hating' as a result of society rather than dogma. However, i do find that making women wear something all the time, no matter what it is, is wrong. They should have the choice. I sure as hell wouldnt want to have acid thrown on my face for not wearing a cross.
Notable?
Not me mate.
I wasn't attacking your post mate, just trying to clarify the Buddhist standpoint.
Not me mate.
I wasn't attacking your post mate, just trying to clarify the Buddhist standpoint.
Surely it is people who cause wars, not religion ? People interpret the religion in their own way and act in accordance with their beliefs of that religion. It's great to say religion is the source of wars but its the people believing in forms of that religion. And I don't believe Wicca has ever started any wars either ?
People interpret religion in the wrong way. Not religons's fault, the people's fault.
And calling Nazi's christains?? When did God say that people with only blonde hair and blue eyes were allowed to live??
I'd have to agree with loki there, total drivel.
And burning people?? That's going back a far way isn't it. :D
And calling Nazi's christains?? When did God say that people with only blonde hair and blue eyes were allowed to live??
I'd have to agree with loki there, total drivel.
And burning people?? That's going back a far way isn't it. :D
Stranger In Paradise wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>And burning people?? That's going back a far way isn't
> it.
> :D
Still doesn't make it okay though ! Of course it'd be convenient if it was
> forgotten about.......
I guess we're talking about Protestants and Catholics..
Well, I'm a Christian, and I'm not either of them. And some people blamed christainty for those protestants throwing weapons at the catholics on the way to school. Well, over half the people who took part in it probably aren't Christians anyway. Just some stupid argument that I prefer to ignore.
> Ant wrote:
>And burning people?? That's going back a far way isn't
> it.
> :D
Still doesn't make it okay though ! Of course it'd be convenient if it was
> forgotten about.......
I guess we're talking about Protestants and Catholics..
Well, I'm a Christian, and I'm not either of them. And some people blamed christainty for those protestants throwing weapons at the catholics on the way to school. Well, over half the people who took part in it probably aren't Christians anyway. Just some stupid argument that I prefer to ignore.
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