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Thu 11/10/01 at 09:10
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Hello chaps,

I've been using Region X for a while to play Region 4 (Australia, PAL) and Region 1 (USA/Canada, NTSC) discs.

PAL plays fine (Region 2 or 4) but my region 1 discs (NTSC) look rubbish.

I've got a fairly new TV (Ferguson, 28" 4:3, don't know the model number) but I don't think that the playback problem is what I would call and NTSC incompatibility issue.
I believe that NTSC on a non-NTSC tv caused black and white pictures.

I'm getting a low-resolution, over-colourful picture that isn't anywhere near as good as any of the PAL discs (regardless of region).

I've used two different scart inputs and also just the yellow composite input and there is no signal type option on my TV that I can see (other than video/s-video).

I'm using the lead supplied with the console (Red, White, Yellow via the scart adaptor).

So, is anyone clever enough to work out if it is in fact my TV that isn't NTSC compatible or is it something more in depth?

Help!!!
Fri 12/10/01 at 08:47
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OK, here's a good one for you then.

Surely everyone who has the composite lead and Region X and is playing Region 1 NTSC discs MUST be having the same problem as me.

If, like you say, it's not a TV being incompatible issue.

Everyone who has Region X, the PS2 composite lead and has used NTSC discs surely must be seing that the picture is poor quality compared to PAL.

Someone please confirm that I'm not the weird one!!!!
Thu 11/10/01 at 22:20
"High polygon count"
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Nope, PS2's have always come with the composite lead and adapter.

The green-screen SCART issue has been the major blot on the PS2 landscape for all but the very first wave of Japanese machines.

It still baffles me exactly why Sony chose to "prevent piracy" in that way, but now that there's Region X I don't suppose it really matters too much.
Thu 11/10/01 at 22:01
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I thought that originally (in the UK) PS2's shipped with Scart leads which were the cause of the whole Green screen problem with some DVD's when choosing RGB (Region 2 discs, not sure about NTSC).

I may well be wrong about that.

Bottom line is that I'll need to wait for the RGB scart lead then I'll know for sure.
Thu 11/10/01 at 16:33
"High polygon count"
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As far as I know, the lead hasn't changed - it's always been the composite + SCART adapter that you have.

This lead will play both games and DVD's in full colour, but with a lower over-all picture quality than SCART or S-Video. NTSC DVD's will always look strange through that cable. You can get Region 0 (zero) DVD's that play on all players, but are in NTSC format - these will play in B&W or odd colours also, unless you use SCART/S-Video.

If you're referring to the original Japanese PS2s playing all regions of DVD, then you're getting slightly mixed up! The original Japanese PS2 had a 'hack' which you could enter via the joypad which would switch the region, rather like Region X does. This, however, only meant that you could play discs from other regions... the colour problems would be roughly the same.
Thu 11/10/01 at 16:24
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Now if only Amazon could pull their finger out and get the damn lead dispatched........

Cheers for the help Wookiee, much appreciated. Annoying of course that I can't test it but it all makes sense now....

I'm presuming that the original lead supplied when PS2 first shipped wouldn't have had this problem then?
Thu 11/10/01 at 16:19
"High polygon count"
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Nope! Region X removes all green-screen perils for all regions of DVD video, and green-screen does not affect games anyway, even through SCART.
Thu 11/10/01 at 16:14
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Cheers Wookiee, that certainly sounds like it's the problem I'm having.

Only one last spanner for the works - does this mean that some discs will suffer from green screen if I use the Blaze RGB lead?
Thu 11/10/01 at 16:10
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
I can't give you a 'techy' description, but it's all due to the way that colour signals are encoded in the two systems.

Have a look here...

http://www.cnet.com/electronics/0-6342366-8-7008129-1.html


Composite video sends all picture information down one cable. However, NTSC and PAL encode colour information in different ways, so the signal is difference - hence black and white or strangely-coloured images.

Both RGB SCART and S-Video seperate the colour information, and the interpretation is more sophisticated and accurate then in a composite signal.

Either RGB SCART or S-Video will solve your problem, as long as your TV is NTSC compatible, which it should be if it's fairly new.
Thu 11/10/01 at 15:34
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i use an official s-vhs lead to play games and watch dvds (region 1+2+3)


i just thought you should know
Thu 11/10/01 at 15:24
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"Vote For Pedro"
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so if you have not got a true RGB SCART can this make NTSC DVD's play in black and white,cause thats the problem im having

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