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"Why do Square hate Nintendo?"

Can someone please clear this up for me :-)


Square didn't like the cart size of the snes or something and now Nintendo and Square can't bear each other (???)

Square say that they've no intention of working along side Nintendo because near all of the Final Fantasy fans are PS2 owners anyway and they seem to get along well with Sony.

But what exactly happened with Nintendo?
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shaneo wrote:
> Res�vilfan wrote:
near all of the Final Fantasy fans are PS2 owners
>

Um...FALSE!

hows that, all the recent FF games have been on Playstation.

Res�vilfan wrote:
near all of the Final Fantasy fans are PS2 owners

Um...FALSE!

I heard that Square and Nintendo made a deal of somes sort (I think anyway!)

Logan wrote:
They wanted to use Carts. Why? Well, ninty would say that it was to stop
> piracy. RUBBISH! Copying CDs with CD writers was unheard of at the time the N64
> was being developed! The real reason is that, by using a weird medium, Ninty can
> charge developers huge prices for their games to be printed- which is why N64
> games cost so much!

CD writers were around by then but about 500 quid so it wasn't a serious problem.


Anyway, Square didn't release FF on the N64 because it wouldn't fit on a cartrige.

But, they now like the Gamecube and GBA.
Nintendo seemed to be in a bit of a strop though and told them to sod off - a pretty stupid thing to do.

Anyway, I think they've patched things up a bit now.

Last time I heard, FF11 is coming to the cube and Square are meant to be making a major announcement soon.

Here's hoping it's as good as Capcoms one!

Well, it goes like this.

Ninty made the SNES. Although this was not perfect, it sold more units that all the other competitors put together (of which there were lots!). So, obviously Square made games for the SNES.

A few years latter, and the next gen of consoles begin to emerge. Nintendo announce the Ultra 64 (as it was then called), and boast it's huge power. One problem. Nintendo outright refuse to give development kits to ANYONE at all, until just before release. (The ninty president once said that at the start only ninty would be allowed to make games for the console, with more joining latter). Now this really annoyed Square who had always trusted Ninty... but that wasn't the end of it!

Next ninty announce they will not use the cheap-to-make high-capacity CD format for their games. Oh no! The fact that they would reduce the cost of games, provide more space for FMV (which is something Square love to use), and allow games to be published far more quickly was not good enough for ninty! They wanted to use Carts. Why? Well, ninty would say that it was to stop piracy. RUBBISH! Copying CDs with CD writers was unheard of at the time the N64 was being developed! The real reason is that, by using a weird medium, Ninty can charge developers huge prices for their games to be printed- which is why N64 games cost so much!

Finally, the console's release date was always in question, and Ninty didn't want to say when developer's games would actually be allowed on their console.

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Then there was the new Sony console. It used CD storage. It had some great specs centred about 3D graphics. (The reason Sega did so badly is that they designed the console for 2d games, saw sony's specs, and then just shoved another chip in the console to improve performance. The console price shot up, and to combat the PSX launch, Sega actually brouhg the console launch forwards by 6 months in the West!)

Furthermore, while Ninty were hiding all the dev kits and details, Sony were completely open. They handed out dev kits like copies of the big issue, and provided great support for developers. They had huge libraries that developers could get code from, and the whole project took off well.

So, Square took this option.

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But why are square STILL not making ninty games, even on the GC? Well, the answer is simply that the PS2 has cornered such a big area of the market that Square will be able to pull off huge sales by supporting just this one console, and not bothering transferring games.

It is far, far easier if you make all your games for one console. You can use the same engines for your games, build up a strong market, and not have to worry about learning about different consoles.

So why not stick with Sony?

Knowing our luck, its very likely that we will not get it

Pro Evo wrote:
> Why would they have a problem with that?

> Surely it would only boost sales.


I have no idea, but Nintendo definitely stopped FF5 from coming to Europe.

You know FF10 in Japan comes with a special DVD called "the other side of the fantasy" (i think), It's got info about FF11, kingdom hearts and lots of other stuff from the FF series.

Hope we get it :-)

Why would they have a problem with that?

Surely it would only boost sales.

it just posted that twice.
mucked up computer!