Viewing Thread:
"Nintendo and the sensible choice."

It is common knowledge that every Game company wants to make as much money as they can! and hold onto an idea that continues to gain money. Nintendo however are not inexperienced in this field, as we all well know, they launched Games on cartridges since their conception at making games- debuting with the NES. Because of this, third party developers seeing the success of the NES growing, wanted to develop for the NES, but of course to do so, you had to pay Handsome royalties to Nintendo, who gained most of the time. Namco was one of the first developers that was subject to these high costs. It wasn't surprising that in 1995 Namco abandoned the New N64 in favour of a much cheaper format- Compact Discs. Then moving their loyalty to Sony with Nintendo allies Square following suit.
However now we know that Nintendo has been forced to abandon this hardline approach of Cartridges for the Gamecube, it was the start of a new era, seeing Mini-DVD Discs, in favour of the much more expensive carts. With a whopping storage capacity of just over 1.5 GB.
Of course this is a good thing, for everyone in fact. For Nintendo-A Mini DVD has the enormous advantage of not being able to be pirated. Plus the huge gains for them as developers who abandoned them in the past come flocking back, looking for a piece of the action. And of course Because it is not called a DVD in such, Nintendo doesn't have to pay royalties to Sony and Philips who are joint creators and owner's of the DVD format and the use of the name.
For us gamers, we can look forward to the prospect of wonderful game's with no excuses of storage capacities that N64 owners became used to. But we have not just Nintendo to thank but Matsushita as well, who will manufacture the discs.
Many Developers are coming back to Nintendo because of the discs. We have Namco of course on track in releasing Soul Calibre 2, Ridge Racer 6, Klonoa 2. Then we have Capcom who where in most absent with the N64, releasing the Resident Evil Saga exclusive to the console. And of course all the talk is at the moment, with the BIG-ONE 'Squaresoft', with reports that Nintendo and Square will have a joint conference next week, citing rumours that Final Fantasy 10 will be unveiled for the system.
Now that's what the advantages of this Disc format would be!.
Companies who where thought to have abandoned Nintendo all together coming back into the fold, along with Nintendo's expertise in Gaming, creating a Console that is a must to own; and a console of all consoles. Yes I'm speaking of Gamecube.
And as for the advantages of this disc format?? the Mini DVD has an unquestionable advantage on the standard DVD. The disc is small, giving a laser less time to spread over the surface of the disc, data could be transmitted to the Console quicker, if not equal to the Cartridges before it.
And in terms of the amount of Data being stored to the regular DVD disc, that argument doesn't come into it. In fact, very little developer's Today actually fill the whole Disc area, the PS2 Is a DVD/CD console and the good majority (If not all of the games for it) are 700 Mb in total or a little under in most cases, thus some haven't took on board the DVD format yet, since there is no need, so they stuck with CD.
I think Nintendo is on to a winner. And watch too as more Developer's join with the Cube as the Square/Nintendo conference gets underway.
The Mini DVD Format could be Nintendo's saviour. Imagine if they had stuck with carts? It would have been the end of a gaming Giant.
Thank god sense prevailed.

I don't think that games are ready to fill 17Gb yet - not even the almight Final Fantasy.

Thats 17,000 Mb.
Zelda was big on 32Mb.

Hey, if Sony put Nintendo out of business, the PS2 might get compilations of 5000 N64 games on a single DVD disk!!

that is true but......
....
......

i don't have a clue what is going on.

*AfroJoe runs away from the scene very fast*

It said in the article that dual sided discs offer 8 hours of video footage (can be fmv) so even final fantasy would struggle to fill that up, especially with the 40gb HDD.

Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
I wouldn't get overly excited about it though. It'll be
> quite some time before any developer gets near filling one of those!


Wouldn't be so sure.
3 letters for you:

F M V.

Res€vilfan wrote:
> Thought so, haha get this, one dual sided PS2 disc is the equivilent of 11+
> gamecube discs, so much for "whopping"

I wouldn't get overly excited about it though. It'll be quite some time before any developer gets near filling one of those!

Res€vilfan wrote:
> Thought so, haha get this, one dual sided PS2 disc is the equivilent of 11+
> gamecube discs, so much for "whopping"

I'd have said "Whipping"....

Thought so, haha get this, one dual sided PS2 disc is the equivilent of 11+ gamecube discs, so much for "whopping"

Res€vilfan wrote:
> PS2 DVD discs are 4.7gb.

> Also Im not 100% sure but in a special magazine
> around the launch it said new types of DVD could be even higher.


You can get up to 17 gigabytes on a dual-sided, dual-layer DVD-18 disc.

http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/products /jump/0,23009,2419968,00.html

hello everyone. oh, now we're on to gigabytes. how exiting.

PS2 DVD discs are 4.7gb.

Also Im not 100% sure but in a special magazine around the launch it said new types of DVD could be even higher.