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Wed 19/09/01 at 21:18
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It is common knowledge that every Game company wants to make as much money as they can! and hold onto an idea that continues to gain money. Nintendo however are not inexperienced in this field, as we all well know, they launched Games on cartridges since their conception at making games- debuting with the NES. Because of this, third party developers seeing the success of the NES growing, wanted to develop for the NES, but of course to do so, you had to pay Handsome royalties to Nintendo, who gained most of the time. Namco was one of the first developers that was subject to these high costs. It wasn't surprising that in 1995 Namco abandoned the New N64 in favour of a much cheaper format- Compact Discs. Then moving their loyalty to Sony with Nintendo allies Square following suit.
However now we know that Nintendo has been forced to abandon this hardline approach of Cartridges for the Gamecube, it was the start of a new era, seeing Mini-DVD Discs, in favour of the much more expensive carts. With a whopping storage capacity of just over 1.5 GB.
Of course this is a good thing, for everyone in fact. For Nintendo-A Mini DVD has the enormous advantage of not being able to be pirated. Plus the huge gains for them as developers who abandoned them in the past come flocking back, looking for a piece of the action. And of course Because it is not called a DVD in such, Nintendo doesn't have to pay royalties to Sony and Philips who are joint creators and owner's of the DVD format and the use of the name.
For us gamers, we can look forward to the prospect of wonderful game's with no excuses of storage capacities that N64 owners became used to. But we have not just Nintendo to thank but Matsushita as well, who will manufacture the discs.
Many Developers are coming back to Nintendo because of the discs. We have Namco of course on track in releasing Soul Calibre 2, Ridge Racer 6, Klonoa 2. Then we have Capcom who where in most absent with the N64, releasing the Resident Evil Saga exclusive to the console. And of course all the talk is at the moment, with the BIG-ONE 'Squaresoft', with reports that Nintendo and Square will have a joint conference next week, citing rumours that Final Fantasy 10 will be unveiled for the system.
Now that's what the advantages of this Disc format would be!.
Companies who where thought to have abandoned Nintendo all together coming back into the fold, along with Nintendo's expertise in Gaming, creating a Console that is a must to own; and a console of all consoles. Yes I'm speaking of Gamecube.
And as for the advantages of this disc format?? the Mini DVD has an unquestionable advantage on the standard DVD. The disc is small, giving a laser less time to spread over the surface of the disc, data could be transmitted to the Console quicker, if not equal to the Cartridges before it.
And in terms of the amount of Data being stored to the regular DVD disc, that argument doesn't come into it. In fact, very little developer's Today actually fill the whole Disc area, the PS2 Is a DVD/CD console and the good majority (If not all of the games for it) are 700 Mb in total or a little under in most cases, thus some haven't took on board the DVD format yet, since there is no need, so they stuck with CD.
I think Nintendo is on to a winner. And watch too as more Developer's join with the Cube as the Square/Nintendo conference gets underway.
The Mini DVD Format could be Nintendo's saviour. Imagine if they had stuck with carts? It would have been the end of a gaming Giant.
Thank god sense prevailed.
Sat 22/09/01 at 00:26
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DOA2 was on DVD, as was Sky Oddyssey.
Fri 21/09/01 at 23:46
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Res€vilfan wrote:
> have you noticed the PS logos on the DVD discs?

Pointless, except to see if
> it's genuine but they do look good :)

yeah the PS logos look cool.
Fri 21/09/01 at 23:41
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Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
> WolfHound wrote:
> Games which has been released on Playstation 2 have used
> the CD
> format not DVD 'yet'.


Absolute rubbish, I'm afraid. Every
> game I have bought for my PS2 recently uses DVD-ROM.

As it's Saturday
> tomorrow, take the opportunity to actually research your claim. Go into any
> games store and look at the bottom of the back of the cases for any of these PS2
> games:

Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Onimusha
Extermination
GT3
Red
> Faction
Dead or ALive 2
Zone of the Enders


All of them are clearly
> marked: DVD ROM.

You can also tell just by looking at the disc. PS1 CDs are
> black; PS2 CDs are a lovely purple. DVDs are silver.

No-one will give your
> posts much credit if you can't get simple and obvious facts right.


Actually, a vast majority of the first batch of PS2 games were printed on CDs simply because there was no need to use DVDs. This is a well known fact. No of course, many more games use DVDs... probably all of them for what I know

As for someone who was talkng about pirating... that was exactly what I said!
Fri 21/09/01 at 21:59
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have you noticed the PS logos on the DVD discs?

Pointless, except to see if it's genuine but they do look good :)
Fri 21/09/01 at 21:47
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WolfHound wrote:
> Games which has been released on Playstation 2 have used the CD
> format not DVD 'yet'.


Absolute rubbish, I'm afraid. Every game I have bought for my PS2 recently uses DVD-ROM.

As it's Saturday tomorrow, take the opportunity to actually research your claim. Go into any games store and look at the bottom of the back of the cases for any of these PS2 games:

Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Onimusha
Extermination
GT3
Red Faction
Dead or ALive 2
Zone of the Enders


All of them are clearly marked: DVD ROM.

You can also tell just by looking at the disc. PS1 CDs are black; PS2 CDs are a lovely purple. DVDs are silver.

No-one will give your posts much credit if you can't get simple and obvious facts right.
Fri 21/09/01 at 21:21
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Res€vilfan wrote:
> Do nintendo really think having a smaller disc will cut out piracy, expect to
> see 8cm dvd's out very soon with no excuse needed :)

Well optical disks are much harder to pirate than CD's or DVD's.

Sure the pro's will hack into it within a few months, but it'll only be the hardcore pro's.

The local geezer down the street with the DVD R/W drive really won't be bothered with hacking in and go for something simpler like the PS2.
Fri 21/09/01 at 21:00
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Yes. TO turn to one without bias and oozes with neutral - ality (that word was made up), turn to me, the great DeltaJava.
Fri 21/09/01 at 20:14
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Robin Said:
"Biased people like you"

God you are a master of irony.
Fri 21/09/01 at 20:13
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Do nintendo really think having a smaller disc will cut out piracy, expect to see 8cm dvd's out very soon with no excuse needed :)
Fri 21/09/01 at 20:07
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Er, I praise the PS2 because I have a reason to praise the PS2. I call you a twonk because I have a reason to call you a twonk.

What's so funny about that?

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