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Mon 29/09/03 at 15:57
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Who's getting one? Who's worried about it's impact on a market? and who wants it to die on it's ass?
Tue 30/09/03 at 22:34
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Currently, GameCube is ahead of the Xbox in terms of units sold on a worldwide status.

And the GameBoy name is bigger than that of the Playstation. Nintendo have the upper-hand there.
Tue 30/09/03 at 21:39
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
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> Certainly when I was in the states over the summer there was far far
> more shelf space for the Xbox than the GC.

Heh. Are we talking space for games or consoles?

Because the X-box is a leetle bit bigger than the Cube. ;)
Tue 30/09/03 at 21:14
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Xbox had sold over 6 million units in North America by June. That was 3 months ago. That was 24% of the market. The Gamecube is barely half of that if I remember rightly.

Certainly when I was in the states over the summer there was far far more shelf space for the Xbox than the GC.
Tue 30/09/03 at 19:54
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> As for sales figures, last ones I saw had Xbox several hundred
> thousand ahead. But it's not a big deal really, the Xbox is
> overtaking the GC as it is outselling it 3 to 1 according to some
> retailers. So any lead will be gone soon. And the Xbox is selling on
> average 500,000 a month.

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Yeah, 3 to 1 in Europe no doubt.

Have you seen the Xbox's sales in Japan? It's being outsold on a weekly basis by the PSone, and the Gamecube's sales are usually at about half of the PS2's, which isn't too bad.

In America, I think Xbox is just ahead on sales, but not by much at all. Here, Nintendo = nothing. Well, not nothing, but I wouldn't be surprised if 3 to 1 turned out as a realistic figure... for countries such as Germany anyway. For us, it's a lot worse.
Tue 30/09/03 at 19:21
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Nintendo switched to disc format because it is so much cheaper than
> cartridges. If they had really learned then they would have used
> standard DVDs.

But having a small portable console was appealing to the japanese market.

*sudden idea* (Not taking the mick I really have just thought of this)

What if Nintendo are mainly using the GC to regain the Japanese market before launching the next console with a strong footing on their home territory again? I remember Nintendo we're very unhappy with the response the N64 received in Japan.

Just a thought. :)
>
> What evidence have Nintendo ever shown of having learnt from their
> mistakes?

Going back to the drawing board on games following players responses. Staying out of the Arcade scene after risking a lot in it. Treating developers a bit better. Nicking certain survival horror titles, forging new relationships with developers they'd fallen out with. Going back to their roots with Pokemon.

Ask Dringo he's the fountain of all Nintendo knowledge. :D
Tue 30/09/03 at 19:07
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Hedfix wrote:
> cookie monster wrote:
>
> Not as true as you might think, figures i saw on Gamescentral a
> little over a few weeks ago still indicated a 500,000+ console lead
> in favour of the gamecube, considering the Xbox was out in the March
> and the 'Cube out in the May, i dont think thats bad going at all.
>
> don't forget Nintendo round things down whereas MicroSoft round
> things up. Like with the console specs, where they were pretty evenly
> matched apart from Ninty had rounded down and MS had rounded up.
>
> (at least that's the excuse I heard)

Heard that one too. But it is an inescapable fact, the Xbox is more powerful. Somewhere in the region of 15-20%.

And MS are not going to fiddle the numbers that much, because if they do then they run into trouble with business analysts who'll bad mouth the company and affect the share price. MS are normally pretty good when it comes to forecasts and figures.
Tue 30/09/03 at 19:04
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Nintendo switched to disc format because it is so much cheaper than cartridges. If they had really learned then they would have used standard DVDs.

What evidence have Nintendo ever shown of having learnt from their mistakes?

As for sales figures, last ones I saw had Xbox several hundred thousand ahead. But it's not a big deal really, the Xbox is overtaking the GC as it is outselling it 3 to 1 according to some retailers. So any lead will be gone soon. And the Xbox is selling on average 500,000 a month.
Tue 30/09/03 at 19:03
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TGMbloke wrote:
> We have a typing duel!

We do? I enjoy hypothesising, there is little malice here I can assure you. ;)
Tue 30/09/03 at 19:01
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cookie monster wrote:
>
> Not as true as you might think, figures i saw on Gamescentral a
> little over a few weeks ago still indicated a 500,000+ console lead
> in favour of the gamecube, considering the Xbox was out in the March
> and the 'Cube out in the May, i dont think thats bad going at all.

don't forget Nintendo round things down whereas MicroSoft round things up. Like with the console specs, where they were pretty evenly matched apart from Ninty had rounded down and MS had rounded up.

(at least that's the excuse I heard)
Tue 30/09/03 at 18:59
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cookie monster wrote:
> Notorious Biggles wrote:
> If that happens then expect to see Nintendo bought over.
>
> I doubt it, Nintendo are filthy rich.

Actually they aren't. They are worth around £6.8 billion, down 10% from their year high and are on a PE ration of 19.3. With a yield of 1.45%. Which is rubbish.

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