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Who's getting one? Who's worried about it's impact on a market? and who wants it to die on it's ass?
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Is this the part where I do an Ali and say 'I was only tying up your time and I don't care'?
Well it's not true. :S
Well it's not true. :S
Dr Gonzo wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> Full quotes:
>
> Oh, and that's just silly. Enough of the quote is there to
> understand fully what I was saying.
And enough left in so that it can be easily mis-read. If you want people to get what you mean make it clear what part of the quote you are infact commenting on. Perhaps quote the part you are replying to directly in your reply - By this I mean putting it like:
'You said this' - but I think this
It makes it MUCH clearer.
In fact, that bits I left out
> after "fooled me" bit you're obsessing over goes on to make
> VERY clear that I'm talking about sales.
>
Nope I'm afraid leaving in the bit about 'innovation' did make it look as if you were questioning whether Nintendo innovated or not.
> Get back to your Speak-and-spell until you figure out how these
> letter things are arranged into words and sentences as you really
> seem to be struggling to grasp a very simple overall message.
No I'm afraid you appear to be struggling to get your point across because you can't use quotes properly in your replies. It not the reader's fault if the writer is unable to convey a simple 'overall message*'
Well at least you didn't resort to calling me a 'fanboy' and drag this down to some kind of retarded-primary school level.
*Looks below*
Oh hang on....
*See? This is what I mean by quoting part of a message you're replying to in your reply to make the part your replying to absolutely clear - try it, it will help you a great deal.
> Hedfix wrote:
> Full quotes:
>
> Oh, and that's just silly. Enough of the quote is there to
> understand fully what I was saying.
And enough left in so that it can be easily mis-read. If you want people to get what you mean make it clear what part of the quote you are infact commenting on. Perhaps quote the part you are replying to directly in your reply - By this I mean putting it like:
'You said this' - but I think this
It makes it MUCH clearer.
In fact, that bits I left out
> after "fooled me" bit you're obsessing over goes on to make
> VERY clear that I'm talking about sales.
>
Nope I'm afraid leaving in the bit about 'innovation' did make it look as if you were questioning whether Nintendo innovated or not.
> Get back to your Speak-and-spell until you figure out how these
> letter things are arranged into words and sentences as you really
> seem to be struggling to grasp a very simple overall message.
No I'm afraid you appear to be struggling to get your point across because you can't use quotes properly in your replies. It not the reader's fault if the writer is unable to convey a simple 'overall message*'
Well at least you didn't resort to calling me a 'fanboy' and drag this down to some kind of retarded-primary school level.
*Looks below*
Oh hang on....
*See? This is what I mean by quoting part of a message you're replying to in your reply to make the part your replying to absolutely clear - try it, it will help you a great deal.
Dr Gonzo wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> What's dull is that you refuse to see that you did drag this
> discussion from the PSP Vs the GBA onto consoles go back to the
> first
> page of this thread and you will see:
>
> You're hysterical. Seriously, can you not understand how these
> things work? You put forward how something might go, in your
> opinion. I say I think something else, and provide evidence why that
> may be the case.
How this one works is: I start a thread about the PSP you drag it on to consoles, you mis-read what I am saying (read below) and have to resort to calling me a fanboy (anyone who's seen me discuss Xbox live with Dringo a few days back will know I hardly suggest that Nintendo can do no wrong).
> Your point was that the GBA brand was so well known
> and Nintendo's position so solidified that they couldn't be
> challenged.
Wrong:
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Hedfix Wrote:
>Sony will definately carve up a piece of the market regardless, how big a >piece and how easy it is for them to do is up to how Nintendo react/pre->empt.
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I provided examples of how, in the past, this hasn't
> been the case. It doesn’t matter that these past examples came from
> the home consoles as, in terms of how the brands are used, they are
> very similar.
And we've come to the conclusion that the GB brand is stronger. You can't compare the consoles with the handheld's: they're two different markets. It's all very well saying 'Nintendo's console isn't doing well so the GB is next' but you can't make the facts about the console market fit the handheld market to suit your points - times have changed.
The console and the handheld markets are very different.
The Gameboy IS the PlayStation of the handheld market, just because it's owned by Nintendo doesn't mean Nintendo behave the same way towards it as they do the Gamecube.
It's all very well quoting past events but we are at a different time in gaming now and it's hardly likely that events will go the same way with the PSP and GB as they did in the PlayStation and SNES/64 era.
>
> The holly-than-though guff is just silly. This whole thread really
> reminds me why coming into these console specific forums is a bad
> idea – utter a single word about Manufacturer X that isn’t total
> praise and you get a fanboy response that defies logic as well as
> reason.
Heh 'fanboy' good one.
*Looks at 17 GC games next to 30+ Xbox titles*
Well clearly I must be a fanboy. Obvious Nintendo can do no wrong which is why I've bought and Xbox and own more games for it than I do for my cube.
You don't have a clue - calling me a Nintendo fanboy is quite frankly daft as anyone on this forum can clearly see from previous posts.
If I'm such a fanboy of Nintendo how come I keep saying 'way to cut down on imports Nintendo'? I criticise Nintendo a lot, go back a few posts and have a look as you clearly haven't a clue.
> Hedfix wrote:
> What's dull is that you refuse to see that you did drag this
> discussion from the PSP Vs the GBA onto consoles go back to the
> first
> page of this thread and you will see:
>
> You're hysterical. Seriously, can you not understand how these
> things work? You put forward how something might go, in your
> opinion. I say I think something else, and provide evidence why that
> may be the case.
How this one works is: I start a thread about the PSP you drag it on to consoles, you mis-read what I am saying (read below) and have to resort to calling me a fanboy (anyone who's seen me discuss Xbox live with Dringo a few days back will know I hardly suggest that Nintendo can do no wrong).
> Your point was that the GBA brand was so well known
> and Nintendo's position so solidified that they couldn't be
> challenged.
Wrong:
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Hedfix Wrote:
>Sony will definately carve up a piece of the market regardless, how big a >piece and how easy it is for them to do is up to how Nintendo react/pre->empt.
------------------------------ --------------------------------------
I provided examples of how, in the past, this hasn't
> been the case. It doesn’t matter that these past examples came from
> the home consoles as, in terms of how the brands are used, they are
> very similar.
And we've come to the conclusion that the GB brand is stronger. You can't compare the consoles with the handheld's: they're two different markets. It's all very well saying 'Nintendo's console isn't doing well so the GB is next' but you can't make the facts about the console market fit the handheld market to suit your points - times have changed.
The console and the handheld markets are very different.
The Gameboy IS the PlayStation of the handheld market, just because it's owned by Nintendo doesn't mean Nintendo behave the same way towards it as they do the Gamecube.
It's all very well quoting past events but we are at a different time in gaming now and it's hardly likely that events will go the same way with the PSP and GB as they did in the PlayStation and SNES/64 era.
>
> The holly-than-though guff is just silly. This whole thread really
> reminds me why coming into these console specific forums is a bad
> idea – utter a single word about Manufacturer X that isn’t total
> praise and you get a fanboy response that defies logic as well as
> reason.
Heh 'fanboy' good one.
*Looks at 17 GC games next to 30+ Xbox titles*
Well clearly I must be a fanboy. Obvious Nintendo can do no wrong which is why I've bought and Xbox and own more games for it than I do for my cube.
You don't have a clue - calling me a Nintendo fanboy is quite frankly daft as anyone on this forum can clearly see from previous posts.
If I'm such a fanboy of Nintendo how come I keep saying 'way to cut down on imports Nintendo'? I criticise Nintendo a lot, go back a few posts and have a look as you clearly haven't a clue.
Hedfix wrote:
> Full quotes:
Oh, and that's just silly. Enough of the quote is there to understand fully what I was saying. In fact, that bits I left out after "fooled me" bit you're obsessing over goes on to make VERY clear that I'm talking about sales.
Get back to your Speak-and-spell until you figure out how these letter things are arranged into words and sentences as you really seem to be struggling to grasp a very simple overall message.
> Full quotes:
Oh, and that's just silly. Enough of the quote is there to understand fully what I was saying. In fact, that bits I left out after "fooled me" bit you're obsessing over goes on to make VERY clear that I'm talking about sales.
Get back to your Speak-and-spell until you figure out how these letter things are arranged into words and sentences as you really seem to be struggling to grasp a very simple overall message.
Hedfix wrote:
> What's dull is that you refuse to see that you did drag this
> discussion from the PSP Vs the GBA onto consoles go back to the first
> page of this thread and you will see:
You're hysterical. Seriously, can you not understand how these things work? You put forward how something might go, in your opinion. I say I think something else, and provide evidence why that may be the case. Your point was that the GBA brand was so well known and Nintendo's position so solidified that they couldn't be challenged. I provided examples of how, in the past, this hasn't been the case. It doesn’t matter that these past examples came from the home consoles as, in terms of how the brands are used, they are very similar.
The holly-than-though guff is just silly. This whole thread really reminds me why coming into these console specific forums is a bad idea – utter a single word about Manufacturer X that isn’t total praise and you get a fanboy response that defies logic as well as reason.
> What's dull is that you refuse to see that you did drag this
> discussion from the PSP Vs the GBA onto consoles go back to the first
> page of this thread and you will see:
You're hysterical. Seriously, can you not understand how these things work? You put forward how something might go, in your opinion. I say I think something else, and provide evidence why that may be the case. Your point was that the GBA brand was so well known and Nintendo's position so solidified that they couldn't be challenged. I provided examples of how, in the past, this hasn't been the case. It doesn’t matter that these past examples came from the home consoles as, in terms of how the brands are used, they are very similar.
The holly-than-though guff is just silly. This whole thread really reminds me why coming into these console specific forums is a bad idea – utter a single word about Manufacturer X that isn’t total praise and you get a fanboy response that defies logic as well as reason.
Fair enough. But only one gets seen by 90% of 18-25 year old males on Wednesday nights. Your mother is unlikely to buy a Gameboy. The majority of Gameboys are owned by kids.
The PSP is for the 18-25 year old market, the one with the large disposable income and likely to buy video games.
I never said that the Gameboy had sold less than the PS and PS2. It has, but only 25 million more, and it has been on the market 6 years longer.
The PSP is for the 18-25 year old market, the one with the large disposable income and likely to buy video games.
I never said that the Gameboy had sold less than the PS and PS2. It has, but only 25 million more, and it has been on the market 6 years longer.
Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Hmm. Well I'm old and know a fair few old ladies. GB isn't advertised
> on TV, or in many non gaming magazines. That is preaching to the
> converted. And it has not now sold that many more units. 150 million
> versus 125 million, and it does have 6 years age wise on the PS.
1: It is advertised in my recent Kerrang magazine, my mother's recent editon of HEAT and a few weeks back was on the front page of my brothers beano... that's just going on my family's magazines.
2: I saw an advert for Pokemon during prime time slots and I saw a late night Goldeny Sun one the other day.
3: The Gameboy is the biggest selling games console of all time.
4: My Grandad owns a Gameboy.
5: The Gameboy Advance combined with the GBA SP sells more than the PS2 in Europe and Japan and that's not including sales of the GBA player.
6: You're stupid. Nintendo advertise the Gameboy a hell of a lot.
> Hmm. Well I'm old and know a fair few old ladies. GB isn't advertised
> on TV, or in many non gaming magazines. That is preaching to the
> converted. And it has not now sold that many more units. 150 million
> versus 125 million, and it does have 6 years age wise on the PS.
1: It is advertised in my recent Kerrang magazine, my mother's recent editon of HEAT and a few weeks back was on the front page of my brothers beano... that's just going on my family's magazines.
2: I saw an advert for Pokemon during prime time slots and I saw a late night Goldeny Sun one the other day.
3: The Gameboy is the biggest selling games console of all time.
4: My Grandad owns a Gameboy.
5: The Gameboy Advance combined with the GBA SP sells more than the PS2 in Europe and Japan and that's not including sales of the GBA player.
6: You're stupid. Nintendo advertise the Gameboy a hell of a lot.
Rar.
I don't give a toss.
I don't give a toss.
Maverick42 wrote:
> Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Maverick42 wrote:
> Currently, GameCube is ahead of the Xbox in terms of units sold on a
> worldwide status.
>
> Where did you read that? In June there was 300,000 between them in
> favour of the GC. Since then the Xbox has been selling 500,000 a
> month on average, and outselling the GC by 3 to 1 (apart from
> Japan).
> Now a bit of arithmetic and you get to the conclusion that the Xbox
> has the lead. Which fits with the last numbers I saw.
>
> Nope, the last official figures released from Reuters clearly stated
> that the GameCube was ahead worldwide. You can speculate all you
> want, but the most recent figures are in Nintendo's favour. It's damn
> close though, and I can see both consoles having a great time this
> Christmas.
>
Got a link?
> And the GameBoy name is bigger than that of the Playstation.
> Nintendo
> have the upper-hand there.
>
> I don't know any old ladies who know what a Gameboy is. but I do
> know
> some that know what a Playstation is.
>
> ...
>
> Well considering I don't spend my spare time quizzing old ladies on
> the gaming world, I can't trump you there. But considering the
> GameBoy has been with gamers for many generations, as a franchise has
> sold much more units and generated much more profit than the PS1 and
> PS2 put together, is constantly advertised and sells just as well as
> Sony's home consoles (not to mention it has more mainstream appeal),
> then it's quite clear it's the bigger brand name.
Hmm. Well I'm old and know a fair few old ladies. GB isn't advertised on TV, or in many non gaming magazines. That is preaching to the converted. And it has not now sold that many more units. 150 million versus 125 million, and it does have 6 years age wise on the PS.
> Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Maverick42 wrote:
> Currently, GameCube is ahead of the Xbox in terms of units sold on a
> worldwide status.
>
> Where did you read that? In June there was 300,000 between them in
> favour of the GC. Since then the Xbox has been selling 500,000 a
> month on average, and outselling the GC by 3 to 1 (apart from
> Japan).
> Now a bit of arithmetic and you get to the conclusion that the Xbox
> has the lead. Which fits with the last numbers I saw.
>
> Nope, the last official figures released from Reuters clearly stated
> that the GameCube was ahead worldwide. You can speculate all you
> want, but the most recent figures are in Nintendo's favour. It's damn
> close though, and I can see both consoles having a great time this
> Christmas.
>
Got a link?
> And the GameBoy name is bigger than that of the Playstation.
> Nintendo
> have the upper-hand there.
>
> I don't know any old ladies who know what a Gameboy is. but I do
> know
> some that know what a Playstation is.
>
> ...
>
> Well considering I don't spend my spare time quizzing old ladies on
> the gaming world, I can't trump you there. But considering the
> GameBoy has been with gamers for many generations, as a franchise has
> sold much more units and generated much more profit than the PS1 and
> PS2 put together, is constantly advertised and sells just as well as
> Sony's home consoles (not to mention it has more mainstream appeal),
> then it's quite clear it's the bigger brand name.
Hmm. Well I'm old and know a fair few old ladies. GB isn't advertised on TV, or in many non gaming magazines. That is preaching to the converted. And it has not now sold that many more units. 150 million versus 125 million, and it does have 6 years age wise on the PS.
*Shoots Memo*
Memo You're a Hero! :D
Memo You're a Hero! :D
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