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Back in the mid nineties the world was different from now. Oasis were the biggest band around, England did well at Euro 96 and maxed Ford Escorts were in. More importantly the Plasystation had just been born. It turned into a style icon for a generation.
The Playstation was a massive success. It was a contemporary of neds, baseball caps and puffer jackets.
But now everything has changed. Still there are people trying to hold on to those heady days. Sony themselves are the most desperate for these days to last forever. The reason is that Sony with their style have got the Playstation as symbol of then and it makes them so much money, the way things are.
Now the PS2 is around and it is just an update. But the PS2 has not yet made the impression that the PS did and now it seems that Playstation culture is dying, slowly. Many people I know are beginning to view Playstation culture as just too mid nineties.
Oasis are not now the biggest band, now they are living off of past laurels and successes. If their next album is not good then it could quite possibly be the end for them. I like Oasis so I am in no hurry to see them die.
Ford have axed the Escort. Now the Focus is here, and it is totally different. Boy racers are not cool. Nor are they nearly as common.
Puffer jackets are no longer as cool as they once were.
Baseball caps are still in though, one last bastion of the Playstation culture.
England are not the force they were 5 years ago, no matter what the score against Germany suggests.
But still the Playstation culture is with us. But now those 15 year old of 1995 are men of 21 with a real life to live and real bills to pay.
I think it is time for a big, radical change.
Now here in the noughties a new console war is set to be fought. Will the victor be a style icon like the Playstation? Will Oasis be number 1 again? Will boy racers in their caps and puffer jackets soon be driving maxed Focuses?
I do not think so. I think that the console of choice will be the GameCube, that the charts will be ruled by R'n'B groups like Destiny's Child and that denim, in a way not seen since the 70's, will be the clothing of choice for many. And in the face of fuel costs, Clios and Corsas will be the transport of choice.
What do you think of the Playstation generation and its culture? Do you think it is dying or do you think that it is about to enter a renaissance?
Biggles
The Playstation was a massive success. It was a contemporary of neds, baseball caps and puffer jackets.
But now everything has changed. Still there are people trying to hold on to those heady days. Sony themselves are the most desperate for these days to last forever. The reason is that Sony with their style have got the Playstation as symbol of then and it makes them so much money, the way things are.
Now the PS2 is around and it is just an update. But the PS2 has not yet made the impression that the PS did and now it seems that Playstation culture is dying, slowly. Many people I know are beginning to view Playstation culture as just too mid nineties.
Oasis are not now the biggest band, now they are living off of past laurels and successes. If their next album is not good then it could quite possibly be the end for them. I like Oasis so I am in no hurry to see them die.
Ford have axed the Escort. Now the Focus is here, and it is totally different. Boy racers are not cool. Nor are they nearly as common.
Puffer jackets are no longer as cool as they once were.
Baseball caps are still in though, one last bastion of the Playstation culture.
England are not the force they were 5 years ago, no matter what the score against Germany suggests.
But still the Playstation culture is with us. But now those 15 year old of 1995 are men of 21 with a real life to live and real bills to pay.
I think it is time for a big, radical change.
Now here in the noughties a new console war is set to be fought. Will the victor be a style icon like the Playstation? Will Oasis be number 1 again? Will boy racers in their caps and puffer jackets soon be driving maxed Focuses?
I do not think so. I think that the console of choice will be the GameCube, that the charts will be ruled by R'n'B groups like Destiny's Child and that denim, in a way not seen since the 70's, will be the clothing of choice for many. And in the face of fuel costs, Clios and Corsas will be the transport of choice.
What do you think of the Playstation generation and its culture? Do you think it is dying or do you think that it is about to enter a renaissance?
Biggles
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Playstation generation was made up of those then 15 now 21 year olds
I think you'll find it was the 20-plussers mostly.
> That generation is definitly in decline.
So there are less people around in that age-range than there were 6 years ago?
> I have not really heard of a PS2 generation, who can really
> say that they have in connection with an era, a whole culture.
The machine has been out less than a year in most of the world. The PS1 'generation' didn't happen overnight, and as I already said, the sales of PS2 were almost 3:1 over the PS1 in the first months, and in general is around 2:1. The PS2 is selling more units, faster, than PS1. What more justification do you need?
> The PS2 has not made the same impact in that it has not revolutionised
> gaming, it is like the transition from Master System to Mega Drive.
That's because PS1 was the first major leap into 3D games, and it was truly a revolution. All we have now is the improvement on that 3D era. PS2 isn't a revolution as such because it offers little that is new in terms of gaming technology. Xbox and Gamecube are (or will be) the same - improvements in the same area, but nothing truly revolutionary.
The next true revolution will come with something like 'real' virtual reality, or holographic games - not extensions of the current technology, which is all any of the current 'next-gen' platforms are.
> The generation that is regarded as being with it, hip and cool is
> the one that is coming in now. And so far the PS2 has not
> established itself as a style icon.
Again, the sales figures of this 'failure' in comparison with the 'successful' PS1 say that you're wrong.
> This is not about just games and
> consoles, it is about the change in the youth culture that is easing
> its way in over the past year or two. So far, the PS2 has not held
> the same coolness that the original had
Yet again... if it's not so cool, why are so many people buying it?
> and that is not my opinion.
It must be your opinion, or you wouldn't be agreeing with it. Anyway, I know of several million people who would disagree with you.
> The generation has changed
Yes, they have a nasty habit of doing that every few years.
> and I do not hink that it will be the PS2 generation.
It may, or it may not. But PS2 does have a healthy head-start.
> Well lets wait until all the consoles are out and the
> trend has been set.
Yes, lets. Even if it does defeat the object of your original post somewhat. :-)
> Playstation generation was made up of those then 15 now 21 year olds
I think you'll find it was the 20-plussers mostly.
> That generation is definitly in decline.
So there are less people around in that age-range than there were 6 years ago?
> I have not really heard of a PS2 generation, who can really
> say that they have in connection with an era, a whole culture.
The machine has been out less than a year in most of the world. The PS1 'generation' didn't happen overnight, and as I already said, the sales of PS2 were almost 3:1 over the PS1 in the first months, and in general is around 2:1. The PS2 is selling more units, faster, than PS1. What more justification do you need?
> The PS2 has not made the same impact in that it has not revolutionised
> gaming, it is like the transition from Master System to Mega Drive.
That's because PS1 was the first major leap into 3D games, and it was truly a revolution. All we have now is the improvement on that 3D era. PS2 isn't a revolution as such because it offers little that is new in terms of gaming technology. Xbox and Gamecube are (or will be) the same - improvements in the same area, but nothing truly revolutionary.
The next true revolution will come with something like 'real' virtual reality, or holographic games - not extensions of the current technology, which is all any of the current 'next-gen' platforms are.
> The generation that is regarded as being with it, hip and cool is
> the one that is coming in now. And so far the PS2 has not
> established itself as a style icon.
Again, the sales figures of this 'failure' in comparison with the 'successful' PS1 say that you're wrong.
> This is not about just games and
> consoles, it is about the change in the youth culture that is easing
> its way in over the past year or two. So far, the PS2 has not held
> the same coolness that the original had
Yet again... if it's not so cool, why are so many people buying it?
> and that is not my opinion.
It must be your opinion, or you wouldn't be agreeing with it. Anyway, I know of several million people who would disagree with you.
> The generation has changed
Yes, they have a nasty habit of doing that every few years.
> and I do not hink that it will be the PS2 generation.
It may, or it may not. But PS2 does have a healthy head-start.
> Well lets wait until all the consoles are out and the
> trend has been set.
Yes, lets. Even if it does defeat the object of your original post somewhat. :-)
Of course it does, I do not want it to die but the only place it is going to live on for much longer is in second hand shops and our memories.
Yeah, but PlayStation culture lives on!
phft
The cahnge thing was all about the generation of today changing. The Playstation generation was made up of those then 15 now 21 year olds (give or take a year or two). That generation is definitly in decline. I have not really heard of a PS2 generation, who can really say that they have in connection with an era, a whole culture. The PS2 has not made the same impact in that it has not revolutionised gaming, it is like the transition from Master System to Mega Drive. The generation that is regarded as being with it, hip and cool is the one that is coming in now. And so far the PS2 has not established itself as a style icon. This is not about just games and consoles, it is about the change in the youth culture that is easing its way in over the past year or two. So far, the PS2 has not held the same coolness that the original had, and that is not my opinion. The generation has changed and I do not hink that it will be the PS2 generation. Nor do I think it will be a GameCube generation. X-box generation? Well lets wait until all the consoles are out and the trend has been set. But the original Playstation generation is un-deniably dying.
Ask the tech forum.
It's almost like a soap on a cliff hanger. Will Nintendo survive the devistating blow of Sony and Microsoft? Find out in a few months time.
Does anyone know a british site where I can buy laptops for around 1400 pounds? Good value ones.
Does anyone know a british site where I can buy laptops for around 1400 pounds? Good value ones.
Dringo wrote:
> So you write a complete waste of space with Nintendo has no style
> and Notorious Biggles thinks hang on lets do a TBN and attack the
> opposition and you call it rubbiash
I haven't read TBN's thread to be honest, as this was the first one I came to.
I'm not interested in attacking Nintendo - I will be buying a 'cube at some point, though not at launch.
I'm simply stating the facts as I know them to be.
> face it your not always right!
Yes I am! Wright by name, right by nature.
:-)
> So you write a complete waste of space with Nintendo has no style
> and Notorious Biggles thinks hang on lets do a TBN and attack the
> opposition and you call it rubbiash
I haven't read TBN's thread to be honest, as this was the first one I came to.
I'm not interested in attacking Nintendo - I will be buying a 'cube at some point, though not at launch.
I'm simply stating the facts as I know them to be.
> face it your not always right!
Yes I am! Wright by name, right by nature.
:-)
ffs, Nintendo don't have any style!!!
So you write a complete waste of space with Nintendo has no style and Notorious Biggles thinks hang on lets do a TBN and attack the opposition and you call it rubbiash, face it your not always right!
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