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Ah, waking up every Sunday morning at 9am, seeing the fresh air and going around the Car Boot Sales used to be the high point of my day, until recently.
I have stopped going to Car Boot Sales for 6 months now, for one reason, Piracy.
I used to be able to put up with it, with the odd Amiga floppy disc being flogged for a pretty penny, and that was just a few years ago, years after the Amgia liquified. There were a fair shair of con men out there as I should know, after buying Terminator 2 for 50p on the Amiga. When I went home and inserted the floppy into one of my 2 external disc drives, the game failed to load. At the time, I was only 7 and I boiled my eyes out, thinking that someone could be that mean to a 6 or 7 year old boy, but that's just the begginning.
Just by looking left or right at a Car Boot Sale, you would see pirated games for rediculously cheap prices. My friend brought home Worms World Party for an amazing £10, just a week after it was released full price.
Games are not the only thing. Many films are being brought in too. Once my friend went abroad and brought home Jarrassic Park and it hadn't even come out at the cinema yet. We put it into our video recorder and pressed play. To our surprise and misfortune, it was a video of someone who had taken a video camera into a cinema and zoomed in on the cinema screen. The quality was terrible and I only sat through about 10 minutes of it and waited for it to come out on video.
I have also been shown Silent Hill, months before it's release and Metal Gear Solid, 6 months before it's UK release. MGS is very different in America. When you face Psycho Mantis, you and Meryl have to pick off loads and loads of guards.
The films in boot sales have been imported from America or other contries and somehow been recorded onto either VHS, VCD or Mini Disc.
However, Mp3's are yet to be seen. Well, at least since I last went. My friend got a couple of albumns but I've never seen any pirated albumns. He found some Metallica, Nirvana and Led Zepplin albumns at a very cheap price.
I am disguested by this as it is just not the same as the original. The book, the case and the covers are all missing. Some people buy the cases and scan the covers but the covers are not of a glossy quality and the cases do not have the "Dreamcast" logo on the blue spine. Some people have ways of getting books as well but not many.
A lot of my friends have offered my pirated Dreamcast, PC and PS games but I have refused.
Nintendo have the best system with cartridges. The only way to pirate them is to use a contraption called the Z64. It makes a copy of the game onto the memory of the Z64 ( a few gig ) and then you can play the game from the Z64 memory, without having to own the original counterpart.
The Playstatition never thought of piracy at the time of PS's release. People made copies and then the problems began, until the release of Dino Crisis. This game had an error written into it so that if you tried to copy it, it would not copy. People downloaded cracks off of the internet and broke the protection. Dino Crisis is the only game to use this as it failed miserably.
Sega though that they had protection beaten when they released the Dreamcast. The games were recorded onto GD-Roms, a new type of CD, bigger than a standard 650MB 74 minute CD. It has a few more rings around the disc than a PS game. However, this was again cracked. People connected their Dreamcasts up to their PC's and uploaded the games to their computers and then used a programme called Winrar to make them into files of 19MB each, called ISO files. They then uploaded them to a server and people download them, Unrar them and burn them to a disc. It takes about 1 day to download a game.
PC gaming is almost the same, except, you download RIPS, instead of ISO's. RIPS are retail games with the intros and some FMV's removed, to save space when downloading files.
The creators of Bleem an emulator for the PC, that lets you play PS games on the PC, have the right idea. They have put a copy protection on the CD's that cannot be "cracked" or broken as of now. Why do music, cinema and games companies not use this? It cannot be too expensive as the creators of Bleem worked on a low budget.
How to identify a pirate.
All pirates are exactly the same to spot, turn the CD over and look at the back. If it has a black back, it is original, if it has a rainbow-like back, it is a pirate. It will have 2 rings, showing how much the CD has been taken up by the game. Beware though, don't think that a game is original by looking at the front and seeing the CD design because some people print them off and glue them to the front of the CD.
Piracy is a huge business and not just game companies, but the movie and music industry need to do something drastic, NOW.
I have stopped going to Car Boot Sales for 6 months now, for one reason, Piracy.
I used to be able to put up with it, with the odd Amiga floppy disc being flogged for a pretty penny, and that was just a few years ago, years after the Amgia liquified. There were a fair shair of con men out there as I should know, after buying Terminator 2 for 50p on the Amiga. When I went home and inserted the floppy into one of my 2 external disc drives, the game failed to load. At the time, I was only 7 and I boiled my eyes out, thinking that someone could be that mean to a 6 or 7 year old boy, but that's just the begginning.
Just by looking left or right at a Car Boot Sale, you would see pirated games for rediculously cheap prices. My friend brought home Worms World Party for an amazing £10, just a week after it was released full price.
Games are not the only thing. Many films are being brought in too. Once my friend went abroad and brought home Jarrassic Park and it hadn't even come out at the cinema yet. We put it into our video recorder and pressed play. To our surprise and misfortune, it was a video of someone who had taken a video camera into a cinema and zoomed in on the cinema screen. The quality was terrible and I only sat through about 10 minutes of it and waited for it to come out on video.
I have also been shown Silent Hill, months before it's release and Metal Gear Solid, 6 months before it's UK release. MGS is very different in America. When you face Psycho Mantis, you and Meryl have to pick off loads and loads of guards.
The films in boot sales have been imported from America or other contries and somehow been recorded onto either VHS, VCD or Mini Disc.
However, Mp3's are yet to be seen. Well, at least since I last went. My friend got a couple of albumns but I've never seen any pirated albumns. He found some Metallica, Nirvana and Led Zepplin albumns at a very cheap price.
I am disguested by this as it is just not the same as the original. The book, the case and the covers are all missing. Some people buy the cases and scan the covers but the covers are not of a glossy quality and the cases do not have the "Dreamcast" logo on the blue spine. Some people have ways of getting books as well but not many.
A lot of my friends have offered my pirated Dreamcast, PC and PS games but I have refused.
Nintendo have the best system with cartridges. The only way to pirate them is to use a contraption called the Z64. It makes a copy of the game onto the memory of the Z64 ( a few gig ) and then you can play the game from the Z64 memory, without having to own the original counterpart.
The Playstatition never thought of piracy at the time of PS's release. People made copies and then the problems began, until the release of Dino Crisis. This game had an error written into it so that if you tried to copy it, it would not copy. People downloaded cracks off of the internet and broke the protection. Dino Crisis is the only game to use this as it failed miserably.
Sega though that they had protection beaten when they released the Dreamcast. The games were recorded onto GD-Roms, a new type of CD, bigger than a standard 650MB 74 minute CD. It has a few more rings around the disc than a PS game. However, this was again cracked. People connected their Dreamcasts up to their PC's and uploaded the games to their computers and then used a programme called Winrar to make them into files of 19MB each, called ISO files. They then uploaded them to a server and people download them, Unrar them and burn them to a disc. It takes about 1 day to download a game.
PC gaming is almost the same, except, you download RIPS, instead of ISO's. RIPS are retail games with the intros and some FMV's removed, to save space when downloading files.
The creators of Bleem an emulator for the PC, that lets you play PS games on the PC, have the right idea. They have put a copy protection on the CD's that cannot be "cracked" or broken as of now. Why do music, cinema and games companies not use this? It cannot be too expensive as the creators of Bleem worked on a low budget.
How to identify a pirate.
All pirates are exactly the same to spot, turn the CD over and look at the back. If it has a black back, it is original, if it has a rainbow-like back, it is a pirate. It will have 2 rings, showing how much the CD has been taken up by the game. Beware though, don't think that a game is original by looking at the front and seeing the CD design because some people print them off and glue them to the front of the CD.
Piracy is a huge business and not just game companies, but the movie and music industry need to do something drastic, NOW.
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Myst1que wrote:
> it isnt possible to copy a vhs anymore cos they do something to so
> the sound doesnt record with the film
the music industry is trying
> out a new cd that is impossible to make copies of if you try to it
> messes the cd up
I don't think so, I've heard lots of things about VHS copying and I can do it fine even decode NTSC to PAL. As for new CD's maybe for computers CD-CD but they won't be able to stop music CD's to Minidisc.
> it isnt possible to copy a vhs anymore cos they do something to so
> the sound doesnt record with the film
the music industry is trying
> out a new cd that is impossible to make copies of if you try to it
> messes the cd up
I don't think so, I've heard lots of things about VHS copying and I can do it fine even decode NTSC to PAL. As for new CD's maybe for computers CD-CD but they won't be able to stop music CD's to Minidisc.
<<< Res€vilfan >>> wrote:
> movies on minidisc, never seen that done but EVERY single one of my
> friends has their playstation chipped and some years ago when i
> asked to borrow a game they didn't even ask whether it was chipped
> or not they just expected it to be and handed me a CDR.
Everything
> about piracy has been heard before but web sites show you exactly
> how to do it and they expect people to just backup their own games,
> I'm sorry but thats like expecting people to delete mp3's from
> napster and roms. With everyone so EASILY getting away with
> "chiped" games for £3 a piece it is irratating that
> other people have to pay high prices if not higher for what they're
> doing.
Whatever they bring out to stop piracy, history proves
> that it won't work, they have to put a stop to backup chips
> altogether,simple as that.
On the other hand, I understand for ppl who copy games. Games are WAY too expensive. I think every game should be £25 brand new.
> movies on minidisc, never seen that done but EVERY single one of my
> friends has their playstation chipped and some years ago when i
> asked to borrow a game they didn't even ask whether it was chipped
> or not they just expected it to be and handed me a CDR.
Everything
> about piracy has been heard before but web sites show you exactly
> how to do it and they expect people to just backup their own games,
> I'm sorry but thats like expecting people to delete mp3's from
> napster and roms. With everyone so EASILY getting away with
> "chiped" games for £3 a piece it is irratating that
> other people have to pay high prices if not higher for what they're
> doing.
Whatever they bring out to stop piracy, history proves
> that it won't work, they have to put a stop to backup chips
> altogether,simple as that.
On the other hand, I understand for ppl who copy games. Games are WAY too expensive. I think every game should be £25 brand new.
movies on minidisc, never seen that done but EVERY single one of my friends has their playstation chipped and some years ago when i asked to borrow a game they didn't even ask whether it was chipped or not they just expected it to be and handed me a CDR.
Everything about piracy has been heard before but web sites show you exactly how to do it and they expect people to just backup their own games, I'm sorry but thats like expecting people to delete mp3's from napster and roms. With everyone so EASILY getting away with "chiped" games for £3 a piece it is irratating that other people have to pay high prices if not higher for what they're doing.
Whatever they bring out to stop piracy, history proves that it won't work, they have to put a stop to backup chips altogether,simple as that.
Everything about piracy has been heard before but web sites show you exactly how to do it and they expect people to just backup their own games, I'm sorry but thats like expecting people to delete mp3's from napster and roms. With everyone so EASILY getting away with "chiped" games for £3 a piece it is irratating that other people have to pay high prices if not higher for what they're doing.
Whatever they bring out to stop piracy, history proves that it won't work, they have to put a stop to backup chips altogether,simple as that.
Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
> New Jimmy wrote:
> Nintendo are the only company out of the big
> 3 to make an
> attempt to stop the pirates with their
> mini-optical discs.
I think there's a misconception here. I
> could post a URL here (but I won't because of the content) for a
> site which gives comprehensive instructions for ripping normal DVD's
> and copying them to mini-DVD.
It's not an entirely new format,
> and while it may be expensive to copy at the moment, so are 'full'
> DVD's. The costs of both will plummet over the next few years, and
> illegal GC games will be easily available in the not too distant
> future.
I will never believe that something is completely protected.
> New Jimmy wrote:
> Nintendo are the only company out of the big
> 3 to make an
> attempt to stop the pirates with their
> mini-optical discs.
I think there's a misconception here. I
> could post a URL here (but I won't because of the content) for a
> site which gives comprehensive instructions for ripping normal DVD's
> and copying them to mini-DVD.
It's not an entirely new format,
> and while it may be expensive to copy at the moment, so are 'full'
> DVD's. The costs of both will plummet over the next few years, and
> illegal GC games will be easily available in the not too distant
> future.
I will never believe that something is completely protected.
it isnt possible to copy a vhs anymore cos they do something to so the sound doesnt record with the film
the music industry is trying out a new cd that is impossible to make copies of if you try to it messes the cd up
the music industry is trying out a new cd that is impossible to make copies of if you try to it messes the cd up
New Jimmy wrote:
> Nintendo are the only company out of the big 3 to make an
> attempt to stop the pirates with their mini-optical discs.
I think there's a misconception here. I could post a URL here (but I won't because of the content) for a site which gives comprehensive instructions for ripping normal DVD's and copying them to mini-DVD.
It's not an entirely new format, and while it may be expensive to copy at the moment, so are 'full' DVD's. The costs of both will plummet over the next few years, and illegal GC games will be easily available in the not too distant future.
> Nintendo are the only company out of the big 3 to make an
> attempt to stop the pirates with their mini-optical discs.
I think there's a misconception here. I could post a URL here (but I won't because of the content) for a site which gives comprehensive instructions for ripping normal DVD's and copying them to mini-DVD.
It's not an entirely new format, and while it may be expensive to copy at the moment, so are 'full' DVD's. The costs of both will plummet over the next few years, and illegal GC games will be easily available in the not too distant future.
Microsoft and Sony so far have been a pair of Piracy loving companys when it comes to their consoles. They know that Piracy initially is good for a machine because it encourages initial sales of hardware, just look at the PS2 and the Xbox, both use DVDs.
DVDs are expensive to copy at present but give it 2 years and it will be easy as pie.
Nintendo are the only company out of the big 3 to make an attempt to stop the pirates with their mini-optical discs. I just hope this is enough to ward of piracy and keep Nintendo alive!
DVDs are expensive to copy at present but give it 2 years and it will be easy as pie.
Nintendo are the only company out of the big 3 to make an attempt to stop the pirates with their mini-optical discs. I just hope this is enough to ward of piracy and keep Nintendo alive!
There have been alot of topics on piracy and I usually reply so I guess i'll do the same here.
Firstly piracy is wrong, it is ilegal and can have serious effects on the gaming industry and music industry.
Take napster for starters, this allowed people to "share" mp3's on-line, in other words allows you to download music for free. It costs the music industry billions yet so many people do it. I can admit I myself do it, when you look at the music industry the artists and record labels aren't scrapping a living, I still buy CD's but with the likes of napster you can get your hands on some old and unreleased songs.
Moving on to the gaming industry which is slightly different. Alot of people are involved in making games and the costs kind of show this although too much does go to the retailer. Buying a pirate game is similar to buying a stolen game, its the same in principal. There are no real ways of stopping piracy at the moment, the PS2 so far has managed but with DVD writters becoming more popular how long can it last?
I'll not waffle on about all the piracy problems or how to solve them as thats been done before. All I will say is that its wrong but Its not going to go away until something far more serious is done about it.
Firstly piracy is wrong, it is ilegal and can have serious effects on the gaming industry and music industry.
Take napster for starters, this allowed people to "share" mp3's on-line, in other words allows you to download music for free. It costs the music industry billions yet so many people do it. I can admit I myself do it, when you look at the music industry the artists and record labels aren't scrapping a living, I still buy CD's but with the likes of napster you can get your hands on some old and unreleased songs.
Moving on to the gaming industry which is slightly different. Alot of people are involved in making games and the costs kind of show this although too much does go to the retailer. Buying a pirate game is similar to buying a stolen game, its the same in principal. There are no real ways of stopping piracy at the moment, the PS2 so far has managed but with DVD writters becoming more popular how long can it last?
I'll not waffle on about all the piracy problems or how to solve them as thats been done before. All I will say is that its wrong but Its not going to go away until something far more serious is done about it.
Ah, waking up every Sunday morning at 9am, seeing the fresh air and going around the Car Boot Sales used to be the high point of my day, until recently.
I have stopped going to Car Boot Sales for 6 months now, for one reason, Piracy.
I used to be able to put up with it, with the odd Amiga floppy disc being flogged for a pretty penny, and that was just a few years ago, years after the Amgia liquified. There were a fair shair of con men out there as I should know, after buying Terminator 2 for 50p on the Amiga. When I went home and inserted the floppy into one of my 2 external disc drives, the game failed to load. At the time, I was only 7 and I boiled my eyes out, thinking that someone could be that mean to a 6 or 7 year old boy, but that's just the begginning.
Just by looking left or right at a Car Boot Sale, you would see pirated games for rediculously cheap prices. My friend brought home Worms World Party for an amazing £10, just a week after it was released full price.
Games are not the only thing. Many films are being brought in too. Once my friend went abroad and brought home Jarrassic Park and it hadn't even come out at the cinema yet. We put it into our video recorder and pressed play. To our surprise and misfortune, it was a video of someone who had taken a video camera into a cinema and zoomed in on the cinema screen. The quality was terrible and I only sat through about 10 minutes of it and waited for it to come out on video.
I have also been shown Silent Hill, months before it's release and Metal Gear Solid, 6 months before it's UK release. MGS is very different in America. When you face Psycho Mantis, you and Meryl have to pick off loads and loads of guards.
The films in boot sales have been imported from America or other contries and somehow been recorded onto either VHS, VCD or Mini Disc.
However, Mp3's are yet to be seen. Well, at least since I last went. My friend got a couple of albumns but I've never seen any pirated albumns. He found some Metallica, Nirvana and Led Zepplin albumns at a very cheap price.
I am disguested by this as it is just not the same as the original. The book, the case and the covers are all missing. Some people buy the cases and scan the covers but the covers are not of a glossy quality and the cases do not have the "Dreamcast" logo on the blue spine. Some people have ways of getting books as well but not many.
A lot of my friends have offered my pirated Dreamcast, PC and PS games but I have refused.
Nintendo have the best system with cartridges. The only way to pirate them is to use a contraption called the Z64. It makes a copy of the game onto the memory of the Z64 ( a few gig ) and then you can play the game from the Z64 memory, without having to own the original counterpart.
The Playstatition never thought of piracy at the time of PS's release. People made copies and then the problems began, until the release of Dino Crisis. This game had an error written into it so that if you tried to copy it, it would not copy. People downloaded cracks off of the internet and broke the protection. Dino Crisis is the only game to use this as it failed miserably.
Sega though that they had protection beaten when they released the Dreamcast. The games were recorded onto GD-Roms, a new type of CD, bigger than a standard 650MB 74 minute CD. It has a few more rings around the disc than a PS game. However, this was again cracked. People connected their Dreamcasts up to their PC's and uploaded the games to their computers and then used a programme called Winrar to make them into files of 19MB each, called ISO files. They then uploaded them to a server and people download them, Unrar them and burn them to a disc. It takes about 1 day to download a game.
PC gaming is almost the same, except, you download RIPS, instead of ISO's. RIPS are retail games with the intros and some FMV's removed, to save space when downloading files.
The creators of Bleem an emulator for the PC, that lets you play PS games on the PC, have the right idea. They have put a copy protection on the CD's that cannot be "cracked" or broken as of now. Why do music, cinema and games companies not use this? It cannot be too expensive as the creators of Bleem worked on a low budget.
How to identify a pirate.
All pirates are exactly the same to spot, turn the CD over and look at the back. If it has a black back, it is original, if it has a rainbow-like back, it is a pirate. It will have 2 rings, showing how much the CD has been taken up by the game. Beware though, don't think that a game is original by looking at the front and seeing the CD design because some people print them off and glue them to the front of the CD.
Piracy is a huge business and not just game companies, but the movie and music industry need to do something drastic, NOW.
I have stopped going to Car Boot Sales for 6 months now, for one reason, Piracy.
I used to be able to put up with it, with the odd Amiga floppy disc being flogged for a pretty penny, and that was just a few years ago, years after the Amgia liquified. There were a fair shair of con men out there as I should know, after buying Terminator 2 for 50p on the Amiga. When I went home and inserted the floppy into one of my 2 external disc drives, the game failed to load. At the time, I was only 7 and I boiled my eyes out, thinking that someone could be that mean to a 6 or 7 year old boy, but that's just the begginning.
Just by looking left or right at a Car Boot Sale, you would see pirated games for rediculously cheap prices. My friend brought home Worms World Party for an amazing £10, just a week after it was released full price.
Games are not the only thing. Many films are being brought in too. Once my friend went abroad and brought home Jarrassic Park and it hadn't even come out at the cinema yet. We put it into our video recorder and pressed play. To our surprise and misfortune, it was a video of someone who had taken a video camera into a cinema and zoomed in on the cinema screen. The quality was terrible and I only sat through about 10 minutes of it and waited for it to come out on video.
I have also been shown Silent Hill, months before it's release and Metal Gear Solid, 6 months before it's UK release. MGS is very different in America. When you face Psycho Mantis, you and Meryl have to pick off loads and loads of guards.
The films in boot sales have been imported from America or other contries and somehow been recorded onto either VHS, VCD or Mini Disc.
However, Mp3's are yet to be seen. Well, at least since I last went. My friend got a couple of albumns but I've never seen any pirated albumns. He found some Metallica, Nirvana and Led Zepplin albumns at a very cheap price.
I am disguested by this as it is just not the same as the original. The book, the case and the covers are all missing. Some people buy the cases and scan the covers but the covers are not of a glossy quality and the cases do not have the "Dreamcast" logo on the blue spine. Some people have ways of getting books as well but not many.
A lot of my friends have offered my pirated Dreamcast, PC and PS games but I have refused.
Nintendo have the best system with cartridges. The only way to pirate them is to use a contraption called the Z64. It makes a copy of the game onto the memory of the Z64 ( a few gig ) and then you can play the game from the Z64 memory, without having to own the original counterpart.
The Playstatition never thought of piracy at the time of PS's release. People made copies and then the problems began, until the release of Dino Crisis. This game had an error written into it so that if you tried to copy it, it would not copy. People downloaded cracks off of the internet and broke the protection. Dino Crisis is the only game to use this as it failed miserably.
Sega though that they had protection beaten when they released the Dreamcast. The games were recorded onto GD-Roms, a new type of CD, bigger than a standard 650MB 74 minute CD. It has a few more rings around the disc than a PS game. However, this was again cracked. People connected their Dreamcasts up to their PC's and uploaded the games to their computers and then used a programme called Winrar to make them into files of 19MB each, called ISO files. They then uploaded them to a server and people download them, Unrar them and burn them to a disc. It takes about 1 day to download a game.
PC gaming is almost the same, except, you download RIPS, instead of ISO's. RIPS are retail games with the intros and some FMV's removed, to save space when downloading files.
The creators of Bleem an emulator for the PC, that lets you play PS games on the PC, have the right idea. They have put a copy protection on the CD's that cannot be "cracked" or broken as of now. Why do music, cinema and games companies not use this? It cannot be too expensive as the creators of Bleem worked on a low budget.
How to identify a pirate.
All pirates are exactly the same to spot, turn the CD over and look at the back. If it has a black back, it is original, if it has a rainbow-like back, it is a pirate. It will have 2 rings, showing how much the CD has been taken up by the game. Beware though, don't think that a game is original by looking at the front and seeing the CD design because some people print them off and glue them to the front of the CD.
Piracy is a huge business and not just game companies, but the movie and music industry need to do something drastic, NOW.
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