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Ah, waking up every Sunday morning at 9am, seeing the fresh air and going around the Car Boot Sales used to be the high point of my day, until recently.
I have stopped going to Car Boot Sales for 6 months now, for one reason, Piracy.
I used to be able to put up with it, with the odd Amiga floppy disc being flogged for a pretty penny, and that was just a few years ago, years after the Amgia liquified. There were a fair shair of con men out there as I should know, after buying Terminator 2 for 50p on the Amiga. When I went home and inserted the floppy into one of my 2 external disc drives, the game failed to load. At the time, I was only 7 and I boiled my eyes out, thinking that someone could be that mean to a 6 or 7 year old boy, but that's just the begginning.
Just by looking left or right at a Car Boot Sale, you would see pirated games for rediculously cheap prices. My friend brought home Worms World Party for an amazing £10, just a week after it was released full price.
Games are not the only thing. Many films are being brought in too. Once my friend went abroad and brought home Jarrassic Park and it hadn't even come out at the cinema yet. We put it into our video recorder and pressed play. To our surprise and misfortune, it was a video of someone who had taken a video camera into a cinema and zoomed in on the cinema screen. The quality was terrible and I only sat through about 10 minutes of it and waited for it to come out on video.
I have also been shown Silent Hill, months before it's release and Metal Gear Solid, 6 months before it's UK release. MGS is very different in America. When you face Psycho Mantis, you and Meryl have to pick off loads and loads of guards.
The films in boot sales have been imported from America or other contries and somehow been recorded onto either VHS, VCD or Mini Disc.
However, Mp3's are yet to be seen. Well, at least since I last went. My friend got a couple of albumns but I've never seen any pirated albumns. He found some Metallica, Nirvana and Led Zepplin albumns at a very cheap price.
I am disguested by this as it is just not the same as the original. The book, the case and the covers are all missing. Some people buy the cases and scan the covers but the covers are not of a glossy quality and the cases do not have the "Dreamcast" logo on the blue spine. Some people have ways of getting books as well but not many.
A lot of my friends have offered my pirated Dreamcast, PC and PS games but I have refused.
Nintendo have the best system with cartridges. The only way to pirate them is to use a contraption called the Z64. It makes a copy of the game onto the memory of the Z64 ( a few gig ) and then you can play the game from the Z64 memory, without having to own the original counterpart.
The Playstatition never thought of piracy at the time of PS's release. People made copies and then the problems began, until the release of Dino Crisis. This game had an error written into it so that if you tried to copy it, it would not copy. People downloaded cracks off of the internet and broke the protection. Dino Crisis is the only game to use this as it failed miserably.
Sega though that they had protection beaten when they released the Dreamcast. The games were recorded onto GD-Roms, a new type of CD, bigger than a standard 650MB 74 minute CD. It has a few more rings around the disc than a PS game. However, this was again cracked. People connected their Dreamcasts up to their PC's and uploaded the games to their computers and then used a programme called Winrar to make them into files of 19MB each, called ISO files. They then uploaded them to a server and people download them, Unrar them and burn them to a disc. It takes about 1 day to download a game.
PC gaming is almost the same, except, you download RIPS, instead of ISO's. RIPS are retail games with the intros and some FMV's removed, to save space when downloading files.
The creators of Bleem an emulator for the PC, that lets you play PS games on the PC, have the right idea. They have put a copy protection on the CD's that cannot be "cracked" or broken as of now. Why do music, cinema and games companies not use this? It cannot be too expensive as the creators of Bleem worked on a low budget.
How to identify a pirate.
All pirates are exactly the same to spot, turn the CD over and look at the back. If it has a black back, it is original, if it has a rainbow-like back, it is a pirate. It will have 2 rings, showing how much the CD has been taken up by the game. Beware though, don't think that a game is original by looking at the front and seeing the CD design because some people print them off and glue them to the front of the CD.
Piracy is a huge business and not just game companies, but the movie and music industry need to do something drastic, NOW.
I have stopped going to Car Boot Sales for 6 months now, for one reason, Piracy.
I used to be able to put up with it, with the odd Amiga floppy disc being flogged for a pretty penny, and that was just a few years ago, years after the Amgia liquified. There were a fair shair of con men out there as I should know, after buying Terminator 2 for 50p on the Amiga. When I went home and inserted the floppy into one of my 2 external disc drives, the game failed to load. At the time, I was only 7 and I boiled my eyes out, thinking that someone could be that mean to a 6 or 7 year old boy, but that's just the begginning.
Just by looking left or right at a Car Boot Sale, you would see pirated games for rediculously cheap prices. My friend brought home Worms World Party for an amazing £10, just a week after it was released full price.
Games are not the only thing. Many films are being brought in too. Once my friend went abroad and brought home Jarrassic Park and it hadn't even come out at the cinema yet. We put it into our video recorder and pressed play. To our surprise and misfortune, it was a video of someone who had taken a video camera into a cinema and zoomed in on the cinema screen. The quality was terrible and I only sat through about 10 minutes of it and waited for it to come out on video.
I have also been shown Silent Hill, months before it's release and Metal Gear Solid, 6 months before it's UK release. MGS is very different in America. When you face Psycho Mantis, you and Meryl have to pick off loads and loads of guards.
The films in boot sales have been imported from America or other contries and somehow been recorded onto either VHS, VCD or Mini Disc.
However, Mp3's are yet to be seen. Well, at least since I last went. My friend got a couple of albumns but I've never seen any pirated albumns. He found some Metallica, Nirvana and Led Zepplin albumns at a very cheap price.
I am disguested by this as it is just not the same as the original. The book, the case and the covers are all missing. Some people buy the cases and scan the covers but the covers are not of a glossy quality and the cases do not have the "Dreamcast" logo on the blue spine. Some people have ways of getting books as well but not many.
A lot of my friends have offered my pirated Dreamcast, PC and PS games but I have refused.
Nintendo have the best system with cartridges. The only way to pirate them is to use a contraption called the Z64. It makes a copy of the game onto the memory of the Z64 ( a few gig ) and then you can play the game from the Z64 memory, without having to own the original counterpart.
The Playstatition never thought of piracy at the time of PS's release. People made copies and then the problems began, until the release of Dino Crisis. This game had an error written into it so that if you tried to copy it, it would not copy. People downloaded cracks off of the internet and broke the protection. Dino Crisis is the only game to use this as it failed miserably.
Sega though that they had protection beaten when they released the Dreamcast. The games were recorded onto GD-Roms, a new type of CD, bigger than a standard 650MB 74 minute CD. It has a few more rings around the disc than a PS game. However, this was again cracked. People connected their Dreamcasts up to their PC's and uploaded the games to their computers and then used a programme called Winrar to make them into files of 19MB each, called ISO files. They then uploaded them to a server and people download them, Unrar them and burn them to a disc. It takes about 1 day to download a game.
PC gaming is almost the same, except, you download RIPS, instead of ISO's. RIPS are retail games with the intros and some FMV's removed, to save space when downloading files.
The creators of Bleem an emulator for the PC, that lets you play PS games on the PC, have the right idea. They have put a copy protection on the CD's that cannot be "cracked" or broken as of now. Why do music, cinema and games companies not use this? It cannot be too expensive as the creators of Bleem worked on a low budget.
How to identify a pirate.
All pirates are exactly the same to spot, turn the CD over and look at the back. If it has a black back, it is original, if it has a rainbow-like back, it is a pirate. It will have 2 rings, showing how much the CD has been taken up by the game. Beware though, don't think that a game is original by looking at the front and seeing the CD design because some people print them off and glue them to the front of the CD.
Piracy is a huge business and not just game companies, but the movie and music industry need to do something drastic, NOW.
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just trying sommin, ignore this
I wouldnt have thought Sony would chip their own machines Indian Dude, but hey if they want to chip their machines I suppose thats their right!
My point is Nintendo are not going with the flow, yes it may be possible to copy a GameCube minidisc but it will be a lot harder than copying a DVD...and more expensive.
Buy using the DVD format Sony and Microsoft are openly welcoming piracy.
I wonder if Sega would still be in the hardware business today had they made the Dreamcast discs CDs and DVDs????
My point is Nintendo are not going with the flow, yes it may be possible to copy a GameCube minidisc but it will be a lot harder than copying a DVD...and more expensive.
Buy using the DVD format Sony and Microsoft are openly welcoming piracy.
I wonder if Sega would still be in the hardware business today had they made the Dreamcast discs CDs and DVDs????
i never thought of it like that wookie , cheers.
Indian-DudeY2K wrote:
> i know it sounds strange but how come my mate gave hime a copied game
> , he went and tried it and it worked !! whats up with that ? so it
> must have been chipped , and he's to honest to get it chipped
> himself so sony must have done it !
I can't explain it as I don't know the whole situation, but Sony will not chip their own machines. My only explanation is that is possibly didn't go back to Sony HQ, but possibly a Sony-authorised dealer. It's quite possible that they would chip a machine, without Sony's knowledge.
Although these stores are 'authorised', that doesn't mean that you can't get 'dubious' types working for them. Several months ago, the manager of my local Game store was sacked for pirating games!
> i know it sounds strange but how come my mate gave hime a copied game
> , he went and tried it and it worked !! whats up with that ? so it
> must have been chipped , and he's to honest to get it chipped
> himself so sony must have done it !
I can't explain it as I don't know the whole situation, but Sony will not chip their own machines. My only explanation is that is possibly didn't go back to Sony HQ, but possibly a Sony-authorised dealer. It's quite possible that they would chip a machine, without Sony's knowledge.
Although these stores are 'authorised', that doesn't mean that you can't get 'dubious' types working for them. Several months ago, the manager of my local Game store was sacked for pirating games!
shaneo wrote:
Yeah, I saw that on .tv on Sky
> Digital. Is that the one you saw?
I don't have sky, but they seem to be fairly new so it's probably the same one.
Yeah, I saw that on .tv on Sky
> Digital. Is that the one you saw?
I don't have sky, but they seem to be fairly new so it's probably the same one.
i've heard of those ,but isnt the game or music burned onto that top layer though , or is it burned the whole way through ?
<<< Res€vilfan >>> wrote:
> Oh by the way, irrelavant to the topic but ths guy brought this ace
> device back from the U.S that well, have you even had a CD/DVD that
> skips, clicks or doesn't run as well anymore and cleaning won't do
> jack to it.
This thing actually scrapes the top layer of the
> disc off and then completly recoats it, sweet huh, even if it's
> scratched to high heaven as long as their not really deep it'll fix
> it, although i think it does turn the black PSone games silver
> hehe.
Yeah, I saw that on .tv on Sky Digital. Is that the one you saw?
> Oh by the way, irrelavant to the topic but ths guy brought this ace
> device back from the U.S that well, have you even had a CD/DVD that
> skips, clicks or doesn't run as well anymore and cleaning won't do
> jack to it.
This thing actually scrapes the top layer of the
> disc off and then completly recoats it, sweet huh, even if it's
> scratched to high heaven as long as their not really deep it'll fix
> it, although i think it does turn the black PSone games silver
> hehe.
Yeah, I saw that on .tv on Sky Digital. Is that the one you saw?
Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
> Indian-DudeY2K wrote:
> but to his suprise in the letter which
> was returned with the console
> sony said that they had chipped
> !! the machine as they thought that
> was what was wrong with
> the old one !!
I think you'll find that means that a chip in the
> machine had blown, and they replaced it.
Sony do NOT 'chip' their
> own machines in that way!
i know it sounds strange but how come my mate gave hime a copied game , he went and tried it and it worked !! whats up with that ? so it must have been chipped , and he's to honest to get it chipped himself so sony must have done it !
> Indian-DudeY2K wrote:
> but to his suprise in the letter which
> was returned with the console
> sony said that they had chipped
> !! the machine as they thought that
> was what was wrong with
> the old one !!
I think you'll find that means that a chip in the
> machine had blown, and they replaced it.
Sony do NOT 'chip' their
> own machines in that way!
i know it sounds strange but how come my mate gave hime a copied game , he went and tried it and it worked !! whats up with that ? so it must have been chipped , and he's to honest to get it chipped himself so sony must have done it !
when they do put in this white sound thing that cd players wont play and all that , some company somewhere will just make a cd player that is able to read the white music so you can still play the cds after yuo have copied them , simple ! also i was thinking of buying one of those things to back up your gba games with , i couldn't sell them as the cartridges cost more than the actual thing to copy them with does , the whole package with a 128mbit cartridge costs £125 , so then i could borry games and put them on this one cartridge and stuff like that , but also you can download your own games on to them and movie trailers and stuff like that !!! so it is a pretty cool toy , and if i ever buy a game for the gba which requires two games to play multiplayer then i can just copy it and me and my bro can play !! cool or what !
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