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Sat 18/08/01 at 15:33
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Ok, so what do you think I should do. I have been thinking about getting a PS2 but after looking at some previews for the Gamecube I am starting to think it will be the superior machine, and it is cheaper. Do you think the Gamecube will be a big hit or will it start out promising and fizzle out like the N64 did. Do you think there is any chance there will be a dramatic price cut in the PS2 once the Gamecube comes out. I am really stuck on this. Any opinions would be appreciated.
Sat 18/08/01 at 18:23
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Who cares about the RAM it's a games console your looking for!
Sat 18/08/01 at 18:20
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Sony made the PS2 technically briliant because a lo of gamers judge games by their graphics. This is the market Sony is aiming for and it's a very good strategy.

Also, graphics do make a good game. Unreal Tournament is a prime example.
Sat 18/08/01 at 18:00
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Grix Thraves wrote:
> Manufacturing the cartridges was dirt cheap, it was the license fees
> that Nintendo forced everyone to pay that put the prices up.


And presumably this will be the same with the Optical Discs?
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:50
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No you don't understand do you, a good game is not made by being able to harness the power of a console, it is in the unique design of the Gameplay, being a Nintendo fan, I though t that even you would know that. Obviously being able to work the console helps, but it doesn't make or break a game.
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:42
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It's Stra-fex not Star-fex.

Anyway, if devellopers struggle to make a good game on the PS2 and easily make a better on Gamecube and Xbox then surely that's not good for the machine.

And if the RAM is a bit better, that doesn't make it cost efficient. It can only be a slight advantage in preformance and surely not worth that much extra cost.

If you want to buy state of the art everything no matter the cost then PC's are what you want.

Consoles should cost efficient and easy to make great games on.
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:34
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Starfex, the PS2 has the most expensive RAM, becuase it is the best RAM, I don't see a problem there, they got what they paid for. The Xbox doesn't have RAMBUS Ram because MS didn't want to pay for it, just ask Intel which RAM is best, RAMBUS for the P4 anyone???

And I don't know how you can say the PS2 is technically a mess, it is a brilliant system desing which no other console has ever had before. The Xbox is basically a PC and the Gamecube is basically a power PC, that is why they are easy to develop for.

I agree the PS2 launch, advertising and most games have been a mess, but the console itself is sheer brilliance.
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:31
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I don't have £105 to buy it with. :-D

My brother has one so I'll probably buy one one it's own to play against him on F-Zero.
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:29
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strafex i would be happy to sell it to you for 105 pounds....along with the two games (rayman adavance and tony hawks :))
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:28
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Well they made a sloppy mess of it somewhere.
There's been alsorts of problems.

And it might not be cost efficient to buy the most expensive RAM when it's not much better than RAM for half the price.

And if the hardware's been so revolutionary that it's difficult to get the best out of it, hasn't that stopped many of it's games from being revolutionary as many devellopers can't afford to do new things. (Recently some have finally broken the barrier though.)

And anyway, the devellopers don't have to work so hard to get better out of the Xbox and Gamecube.

The PS2 was a mess. That doesn't mean that it won't clear up. It's still a decent machine but not as great as it should've been.
Sat 18/08/01 at 17:12
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1) The PS2 is not put together ineeficiently, it is the best of the new console in terms of ingenuity and design. It is so groun breaking however that it is difficult to get the best from the system.

2) The PS2 uses RAMBUS memory which causes Sony to incur massive license fees.

3) the PS2 only has 2 ontroller ports because the I/o controller is a Playstation, which as you may realise only has 2 controller ports.

4) The PS2 does not have a cheap DVD player thrown in. The MPEG 2 decoder is an integral part of the emotion engine CPU. It would not have been any cheaper for Sony to make the Ps2 without playing DVDs. The MPEG2 decoder was originally put there by Toshiba (the maker and desogner of the emotion engone CPU) so that games producers could play MPEG2 FMVs. This enabled the PS2 to be DVD movie capable at no extra cost, the PS2 was never designed to play DVDs, it just can.

5) The PS2 costs a lot more to make then it costs us to buy it.

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