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Wed 21/01/04 at 12:32
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Sorry sorry sorry for that horrible title... but I had to think of something.

All I can say is wow, this seems an amazing Idea... Before Rickoss harps on about the Virtual Boy and 64DD may I point out that the VB enduced headaches which was why it failed and the 64DD was released too late.

This new DS probably means Nintendo are to abandon their GBA connectivity feature as this essentially does the same thing!!!!! For those who haven't read the press release I will put it down below, but this is a really fantastic original and pure fun idea.

In a shocking announcement which is set to rock the gaming world, Nintendo have released details of their forthcoming DS Portable gaming system. Rumours began flying a few weeks ago after mysterious words were uttered from Nintendo spokes people regarding a new machine. Some thought the machine would be the fabled “Game Boy Enhanced” with the mighty power to play Game Boy Advance AND Gamecube games, however this is not the case.


This surprising move from Nintendo sees them releasing a third stand-alone portable system to take games playing and interactivity to a completely different plane of existence! This new machine will feature not one but two 3” TFT LCD screens to allow for greater scope and perspective on the games. The two screens will be backlit to allow for poor-light play. The main processor is pparently an "ARM 9" with the Sub-processor an "ARM 7".

Here’s the official word from Nintendo:

”Players can look forward to being able to manage their game progress from two different perspectives, enhancing both the speed and strategy of the challenge. For example in a football game, you can view the whole game on one screen, while simultaneously focusing on an individual footballer's tackle or goal on the other screen. Players will no longer be forced to interrupt game play to shift perspective, such as moving from a wide shot to a close up, or alternating between a character's ongoing battle and a map of their environment. Nintendo DS makes it possible to perform the tasks in real time by simply glancing from one screen to the other.”

Self-styled “Funny Man of Gaming” and Nintendo president Satoru Iwata had this to say on the new product:

"We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different concept from existing game devices in order to provide players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st century"

The Nintendo DS will feature two separate screens, separate processors and a semiconductor memory of up to 1 gigabit. It will be marketed and sold as a separate entity to Game Boy Advance and the Gamecube systems. More information will be available at E3 when the system will be fully unveiled for the first time. Nintendo says we can expect a world-wide launch before the end of the year!

Cube-Europe.

DUDE!
Wed 21/01/04 at 17:26
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Maybe it's a choice?

People who don't gove a toss buy the GBA, people who do buy this DS thing.
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:47
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look I don't care how many people Nintendo splits between the development of this and other platforms, the point isn't what the developers have to choose between, it's what the customers have to choose between.

They have a strong position in the market with the GBA, DESPITE the way they shafted the customers with the SP... but instead of building on that to rival the PSP they are bringing out ANOTHER handheld, minus the huge back catalogue of the GBA.
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:45
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It does have it's upsides, but come on, it's just plain pointless. The 64DD and Virtual Boy had some great games, but were ultimately failures, I doubt this will either prove a popular platform, nor will it further the production of games that much.

Two screens may well be the way forward in Nintendo's eyes, but I doubt many people will agree. Of course, I'll reserve my opinion until it's actually released, but so far I don't see it working at all.

I just hope it isn't the rise of the fall.
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:17
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Elementary my dear Dringo, but 4 batteries equals a pain in the ass. And even then they might not run for a long time. Wait for E3 to find out the specs in full.

> Capcom, Konami, Namco, Squaresoft and SEGA are all companies very
> interested in ideas like this.

Whether they develop for it is to be seen.

They'd be making games exclusively for a system which could flop. It's a lot to gamble.
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:10
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new companies = new developments
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:10
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Darwock wrote:
> It's obsolete already. I can't believe how f*&ked up Nintendo are
> at making decisions... they're splitting the market even further when
> they need to chuck everything behind one competitor to the PSP.

You what?

Are you totally thick?

Nintendo have 3 teams developing hardware, one the successor to the GBA, 2 their inhouse team for the Gamecube and a 3rd that looks at new companies...

Also Nintendo have tonnes of games devisions with never even heard of...

Heard of skip? Intelligent studio's have been around for decades and you've only heard of them through the metroid games on the Gameboy.

If this system catches on Nintendo could make BILLIONS... think about it... this has the potential to save Nintendo.
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:08
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Very simple tphi...

4 batteries.

As for this system I do not think Nintendo will be spreading themselves too thinly, the system has spent a good number of years in development... games will already be developed by Nintendo and their massive array of second party handheld developers.

Capcom, Konami, Namco, Squaresoft and SEGA are all companies very interested in ideas like this.
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:02
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TGMbloke wrote:
> The PSP will be big - the NDS will be too. But I can see 3rd Party
> developers devloping games using only one screen, and stciking a
> cheesy logo on the other. Why? They will have to be proted to/from
> PSP.

Presumably this won't happen, as the NDS is a separate system from the GBA2, a third platform.

My reactions.. first, utter excitement, it felt like Nintendo had baked a particularly large chocolate cake for me. A new system.. as innovative as I'd hoped.. then.. realisation of the how the product would look, play, and fit into the market. It was like my cake from Nintendo had turned out to be made out of doggy poo instead.

So there's going to be two handheld platforms out simultanesously? GBA and NDS? In my opinion, Nintendo are spreading themselves to thin with a third platform, they need to concentrate on the GC and GBA, and the development of the N5 and GBA2.

The games will have to be made specifically, and how many developers will bother? To make it cost-effective third parties will need to publish on other formats as well.

Two screens? HUH? I don't want to look at two screens at once, and switching from one to the other is irritating and pointless. Take Nintendo's example of a football game. If I want to change from a close-up view to see the whole pitch, I'll press some buttons and the camera view will change. No extra screen needed. I'm all for originality, but not when it's unecessarily complicating things.

DRINGO, here's a bit for you to worry about. The old battery power thing. It killed the GameGear? Well how long do you think the DS will run with TWO TFT backlit screens and all the processing power to handle?

I can't see it being a success, but it's way too early to tell. I'm excited of course, but have a feeling that this is just innovating for the sake of innovation's sake.

And anyway, two screens is soooo 1980. Game and Watch anyone?
Wed 21/01/04 at 16:00
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It's obsolete already. I can't believe how f*&ked up Nintendo are at making decisions... they're splitting the market even further when they need to chuck everything behind one competitor to the PSP.
Wed 21/01/04 at 15:49
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This isn't the sequel to the GBA you do know that?

It's not the true competitor to the PSP.

It seems like it'll contain an awful lot of superb original gameplay ideas...

Genius.

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