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Nintendo are not the company that runs risks, this is why they have outlasted so many of their competitors. They are weary of losing money in Online gaming, they're nervous of the amount of money they can lose with mass advertisement and so their main new gameplay ideas such as the GBA-GC connection are on a small scale. But it is these lack of risks that created the Playstation, these lack of risks that mean year in year out Nintendo's sales are slowly depleating...
And so once again, much like this time last generation, we rely on Nintendo kicking butt with their next generation of systems. Why do "we" rely on this? Because dammit I WANT to play Driv3r, I WANT to play Hitman 3 and I WANT to play Grand Theft Auto... I don't care if they look crap (I know Hitman certainly doesn't) but if Nintendo want a cut of these system sellers they NEED to get a larger share of the market. And Nintendo aren't pretending otherwise.
The Gamecube 2, N5 or Dr. Doolittle's house of fun... whatever you want to call it WILL have specifications to match their rivals. Ignore Iwati going on about "no need for good graphics" they did that last time to some effect and Nintendo know the importance of multi-format titles. Hopefully Nintendo can continue their good ties with Capcom, EA, Namco and SEGA into the next generation because that will be damn useful. What games we are to recieve is up for speculation... Smash Brothers and Mario Kart seem a certainty as does a Mario game, whether this is the much touted Mario 128 or not is to be seen. Regardless we won't know anything until E3 2005 and so we will just have to wait and see.
Regarding The Gameboy next/extreme/advance 2/Dr. Doolittle house of fun... we can make a few more educated guesses about. The system will be released late in comparison to the PSP, it doesn't mean Nintendo are giving Sony a head start. The price of the PSP will mean the Gameboy Advance SP... coupled with a nice price cut will still enjoy the exact same success as before. Also Nintendo plan to steal alot of Sony's thunder with the DS... Sony going up against 2 Nintendo handhelds is very risky especially as both will undercut the price greatly. The IQue also gives a hint to what we can expect from the next Gameboy, the IQue has the power to play Nintendo 64 games and is the approximate size of an N64 controller, slap on a screen and you have a N64 handheld... easy. With the fast pacing improvements in technology we can expect a higher specifications system than THAT! What does this mean? Well it means yet ANOTHER re-release (Ocarina of Time was released 3 times last year!) of Ocarina of Time, we'll see the long lost Mario 64 on a handheld console and... as RARE are an official Gameboy developer we can expect Perfect Dark, Banjo and maybe even that PROPER re-make of Goldeneye we want to badly.
But these are systems for the back end of 2005/2006 or even 2007. Nintendo's big issue, their big hitter comes in the form of a third piller... the Nintendo DS. Criticised to start with but the public (62.2% in Japan anyway) are starting to come round, developers are getting very excited about it (93.3% of Japanese ones) and retailers are getting ready for it (64.4% Japanese ones at the moment). The Nintendo DS is a dual screen handheld system, conviently released around the same time as the PSP and plans to offer things not seen in the Gaming industry ever before. Dual Screen was done during the Game and Watch era to a slightly reductive affair but with different memory storage, new types of games, the possibilty of touch screen and wireless technology we can assume that Nintendo are pulling out all the stops hardware wise.
Despite how damn cool the entire idea sounds it is the developers that are truly excited. SEGA have recently declared their interest with Sonic Team's Yuji Naka saying:
"We've been waiting for this! We'll be sure to try out something new with this, and release something for the launch!"
Other developers have reported to say things such as "The roots of gaming are returning and it looks like they will put up a good fight", "It should allow the birth of a whole host of new ideas and play experiences that haven't existed before.", "Having two separately functioning screens suits the time perfectly - with users becoming increasingly multi-tasking." and Nintendo's own Camelot had this to say:
"In a game industry that is feeling more and more penned in, this should create a few openings."
Despite negative reports from the general public moaning about lack of concentration of next gen systems or new software for these systems, the gaming world is getting ready for it... in fantastic anticipation. Developers are all discussing the possibilities of this new handheld, such as Koei who stated:
"I think we can make an interesting game with one screen for the large-scale battle with the other screen focusing on a local battle, in historical strategy games, and so on."
Amusement Vision read the specifications of the system and turned their "?" into a "!" (their words not mine). To me Nintendo's last fight no longer seems like a doomed idea, but instead the birth of probably the biggest change in gaming since the onset of 3D gaming.
Nintendo have run their biggest risk in a very long time...
Are you excited yet?
Dringo.
And so once again, much like this time last generation, we rely on Nintendo kicking butt with their next generation of systems. Why do "we" rely on this? Because dammit I WANT to play Driv3r, I WANT to play Hitman 3 and I WANT to play Grand Theft Auto... I don't care if they look crap (I know Hitman certainly doesn't) but if Nintendo want a cut of these system sellers they NEED to get a larger share of the market. And Nintendo aren't pretending otherwise.
The Gamecube 2, N5 or Dr. Doolittle's house of fun... whatever you want to call it WILL have specifications to match their rivals. Ignore Iwati going on about "no need for good graphics" they did that last time to some effect and Nintendo know the importance of multi-format titles. Hopefully Nintendo can continue their good ties with Capcom, EA, Namco and SEGA into the next generation because that will be damn useful. What games we are to recieve is up for speculation... Smash Brothers and Mario Kart seem a certainty as does a Mario game, whether this is the much touted Mario 128 or not is to be seen. Regardless we won't know anything until E3 2005 and so we will just have to wait and see.
Regarding The Gameboy next/extreme/advance 2/Dr. Doolittle house of fun... we can make a few more educated guesses about. The system will be released late in comparison to the PSP, it doesn't mean Nintendo are giving Sony a head start. The price of the PSP will mean the Gameboy Advance SP... coupled with a nice price cut will still enjoy the exact same success as before. Also Nintendo plan to steal alot of Sony's thunder with the DS... Sony going up against 2 Nintendo handhelds is very risky especially as both will undercut the price greatly. The IQue also gives a hint to what we can expect from the next Gameboy, the IQue has the power to play Nintendo 64 games and is the approximate size of an N64 controller, slap on a screen and you have a N64 handheld... easy. With the fast pacing improvements in technology we can expect a higher specifications system than THAT! What does this mean? Well it means yet ANOTHER re-release (Ocarina of Time was released 3 times last year!) of Ocarina of Time, we'll see the long lost Mario 64 on a handheld console and... as RARE are an official Gameboy developer we can expect Perfect Dark, Banjo and maybe even that PROPER re-make of Goldeneye we want to badly.
But these are systems for the back end of 2005/2006 or even 2007. Nintendo's big issue, their big hitter comes in the form of a third piller... the Nintendo DS. Criticised to start with but the public (62.2% in Japan anyway) are starting to come round, developers are getting very excited about it (93.3% of Japanese ones) and retailers are getting ready for it (64.4% Japanese ones at the moment). The Nintendo DS is a dual screen handheld system, conviently released around the same time as the PSP and plans to offer things not seen in the Gaming industry ever before. Dual Screen was done during the Game and Watch era to a slightly reductive affair but with different memory storage, new types of games, the possibilty of touch screen and wireless technology we can assume that Nintendo are pulling out all the stops hardware wise.
Despite how damn cool the entire idea sounds it is the developers that are truly excited. SEGA have recently declared their interest with Sonic Team's Yuji Naka saying:
"We've been waiting for this! We'll be sure to try out something new with this, and release something for the launch!"
Other developers have reported to say things such as "The roots of gaming are returning and it looks like they will put up a good fight", "It should allow the birth of a whole host of new ideas and play experiences that haven't existed before.", "Having two separately functioning screens suits the time perfectly - with users becoming increasingly multi-tasking." and Nintendo's own Camelot had this to say:
"In a game industry that is feeling more and more penned in, this should create a few openings."
Despite negative reports from the general public moaning about lack of concentration of next gen systems or new software for these systems, the gaming world is getting ready for it... in fantastic anticipation. Developers are all discussing the possibilities of this new handheld, such as Koei who stated:
"I think we can make an interesting game with one screen for the large-scale battle with the other screen focusing on a local battle, in historical strategy games, and so on."
Amusement Vision read the specifications of the system and turned their "?" into a "!" (their words not mine). To me Nintendo's last fight no longer seems like a doomed idea, but instead the birth of probably the biggest change in gaming since the onset of 3D gaming.
Nintendo have run their biggest risk in a very long time...
Are you excited yet?
Dringo.
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Dringo wrote:
> Lack of enthusiasm for such a brilliant Nintendo idea really does
> surprise me...
>
> It's not a Nintendo fans trait at all.
Not really true. You can be a Nintendo fan, but also have an open mind enough to realise the threat of the PSP you seem so blind to.
Also, you seem to be praising a machine we know virtually nothing about other than it has two screens! You've not seen the product or any of the games for it.
Plus, is it a wise choice of Nintendo to only be 'showing' this exciting new product at E3, rather than letting the public get their grubby mits on it, like they will be able to with the PSP!?!
> And tilt you close minded fool you know it'll rule... you just love
> being pessemistic.
Perhaps he just likes to see something to get excited about rather than jumping up and down like a giddy school girl over some text article!
:)
> Lack of enthusiasm for such a brilliant Nintendo idea really does
> surprise me...
>
> It's not a Nintendo fans trait at all.
Not really true. You can be a Nintendo fan, but also have an open mind enough to realise the threat of the PSP you seem so blind to.
Also, you seem to be praising a machine we know virtually nothing about other than it has two screens! You've not seen the product or any of the games for it.
Plus, is it a wise choice of Nintendo to only be 'showing' this exciting new product at E3, rather than letting the public get their grubby mits on it, like they will be able to with the PSP!?!
> And tilt you close minded fool you know it'll rule... you just love
> being pessemistic.
Perhaps he just likes to see something to get excited about rather than jumping up and down like a giddy school girl over some text article!
:)
Dringo wrote:
> Do you think people are stupid?
>
> Why are is there 2? Well one plays dual screen games, with touch
> screen ideas and completely different sort of games...
Don't you only own a GameCube because you don't see the point in owning all/or more than one of the current generation of consoles?
So tell me why Joe Public will want to own 2/3 different hand-held consoles, and be able to buy games for all of them, while also keeping up with the latest games on their main consoles?
> The PSP is going up against the biggest console in the gaming
> industry... it is going up against a system that has a fan base
> bigger than the Playstation itself... and to start off with it has to
> fight off the Nintendo DS...
Not fight off the 'odd' Nintendo DS! *shocked facial expression*
Think back to the 16bit era. You had the Mega Drive and the SNES. Ninendo and Sega were the biggest console developers out. They had the whole fan base!
Go to the next advance in console gaming 32/64bit era. Sony come along with the Playstation, and it becomes the most popular console by MILLIONS of sales.
So...
Your still telling me, that just because Nintendo has some 'dated' hardware on the market, and is about to release a 'unique' console (which probably won't appeal to everyone), that Sony's PSP is going to do really badly? Now that doesn't sound like commen sence to me!
> The Nintendo DS is set to be the damn coolest, bravest thing Nintendo
> have ever created.
It's a strange idea, and I admit that I'm quite intriged by it. Looking forward to it. But Nintendo have state that this is a win or DIE situation. So time will tell if it's a good idea or not...
:)
> Do you think people are stupid?
>
> Why are is there 2? Well one plays dual screen games, with touch
> screen ideas and completely different sort of games...
Don't you only own a GameCube because you don't see the point in owning all/or more than one of the current generation of consoles?
So tell me why Joe Public will want to own 2/3 different hand-held consoles, and be able to buy games for all of them, while also keeping up with the latest games on their main consoles?
> The PSP is going up against the biggest console in the gaming
> industry... it is going up against a system that has a fan base
> bigger than the Playstation itself... and to start off with it has to
> fight off the Nintendo DS...
Not fight off the 'odd' Nintendo DS! *shocked facial expression*
Think back to the 16bit era. You had the Mega Drive and the SNES. Ninendo and Sega were the biggest console developers out. They had the whole fan base!
Go to the next advance in console gaming 32/64bit era. Sony come along with the Playstation, and it becomes the most popular console by MILLIONS of sales.
So...
Your still telling me, that just because Nintendo has some 'dated' hardware on the market, and is about to release a 'unique' console (which probably won't appeal to everyone), that Sony's PSP is going to do really badly? Now that doesn't sound like commen sence to me!
> The Nintendo DS is set to be the damn coolest, bravest thing Nintendo
> have ever created.
It's a strange idea, and I admit that I'm quite intriged by it. Looking forward to it. But Nintendo have state that this is a win or DIE situation. So time will tell if it's a good idea or not...
:)
If Nintendo don't still have the biggest share of the market after the PSP is released I will be surprised, then again I'm continually surprised by the stupidity of the general populace.
Should be interesting.
Should be interesting.
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
> Are you excited yet?
>
> Not in the slightest.
'fraid so. But I'm not a huge fan of handhelds.
> Dringo wrote:
> Are you excited yet?
>
> Not in the slightest.
'fraid so. But I'm not a huge fan of handhelds.
Nintendo will also be marketing it differently...
I think you'll be surprised...
I think you'll be surprised...
But what's the problem? GBA2 comes out at the end of 2005... GBA SP is still there....
The DS is hardly going to counter-act much.
From what I've seen and heard about the DS I believe it is a VERY different system and people will be getting it for a different reason to the SP... the SP is a cool little system playing classic games such as Pokemon... whilst the DS is a brand new idea.... sure it'll conflict with the SP's sales but no more than the PSP will.
The DS is hardly going to counter-act much.
From what I've seen and heard about the DS I believe it is a VERY different system and people will be getting it for a different reason to the SP... the SP is a cool little system playing classic games such as Pokemon... whilst the DS is a brand new idea.... sure it'll conflict with the SP's sales but no more than the PSP will.
Dringo said:
"Nintendo aren't trying to split a market base... they are selling this console to everyone."
That's the point I keep trying to make, 'everyone' isn't going to buy two handheld consoles, let alone three!
"Nintendo aren't trying to split a market base... they are selling this console to everyone."
That's the point I keep trying to make, 'everyone' isn't going to buy two handheld consoles, let alone three!
Darwock wrote:
> Dringo the buying public is not made up of people like you. It's been
> said before, Nintendo are splitting their marketbase by offering two
> similar, but different products.
Nintendo aren't trying to split a market base... they are selling this console to everyone.
> Sony are easily in the stronger position. If only because everybody
> knows what a Nintendo handheld can do already, all the speculation is
> on how powerful the PSP will be. The speculation on the DS is mostly
> limited to "what the hell for??"... or "How are they
> going to use it?"
How powerful will the DS be? If you are trying to tell me the entire idea of a final fight isn't exciting then you shock me. Even in a negative way this entire story that will unfold throughout the year will be interesting and exciting. The games look fantastically promising... we've never seen ANYTHING like this before so to predict it's failure is very poor and the hardware will be revolutionary... whether you think it'll do well or no is besides the point. It is exciting.
> Also Sony are the brand name that sells in videogames. If Nintendo
> aren't worried they deserve to fail, but they obviously are (hence
> the DS).
Gameboy is a bigger brand. The release date of the DS is obviously to counter the PSP but I don't think the system came about in order to counter it... I think the DS has been in the works for sometime and by the sound of the work that has gone into it I wouldn't be surprised if it had been in development for years...
The DS excites developers.... hardware to die for.... games to die for...
This is at last the bold move we've been pestering Nintendo to make, this is a megaton although many of us don't seem to realise that yet and this could well be the biggest gaming enhancment for years... I know we are all used to Nintendo messing up but they DO make good systems and they DO have good ideas it is why we love them so. SEGA, Konami, Namco, THQ and Nintendo... 4 of those are the greatest games developers of all time... are all confirmed to be developing launch software for the system.
Lack of enthusiasm for such a brilliant Nintendo idea really does surprise me...
It's not a Nintendo fans trait at all.
And tilt you close minded fool you know it'll rule... you just love being pessemistic.
> Dringo the buying public is not made up of people like you. It's been
> said before, Nintendo are splitting their marketbase by offering two
> similar, but different products.
Nintendo aren't trying to split a market base... they are selling this console to everyone.
> Sony are easily in the stronger position. If only because everybody
> knows what a Nintendo handheld can do already, all the speculation is
> on how powerful the PSP will be. The speculation on the DS is mostly
> limited to "what the hell for??"... or "How are they
> going to use it?"
How powerful will the DS be? If you are trying to tell me the entire idea of a final fight isn't exciting then you shock me. Even in a negative way this entire story that will unfold throughout the year will be interesting and exciting. The games look fantastically promising... we've never seen ANYTHING like this before so to predict it's failure is very poor and the hardware will be revolutionary... whether you think it'll do well or no is besides the point. It is exciting.
> Also Sony are the brand name that sells in videogames. If Nintendo
> aren't worried they deserve to fail, but they obviously are (hence
> the DS).
Gameboy is a bigger brand. The release date of the DS is obviously to counter the PSP but I don't think the system came about in order to counter it... I think the DS has been in the works for sometime and by the sound of the work that has gone into it I wouldn't be surprised if it had been in development for years...
The DS excites developers.... hardware to die for.... games to die for...
This is at last the bold move we've been pestering Nintendo to make, this is a megaton although many of us don't seem to realise that yet and this could well be the biggest gaming enhancment for years... I know we are all used to Nintendo messing up but they DO make good systems and they DO have good ideas it is why we love them so. SEGA, Konami, Namco, THQ and Nintendo... 4 of those are the greatest games developers of all time... are all confirmed to be developing launch software for the system.
Lack of enthusiasm for such a brilliant Nintendo idea really does surprise me...
It's not a Nintendo fans trait at all.
And tilt you close minded fool you know it'll rule... you just love being pessemistic.
Dringo the buying public is not made up of people like you. It's been said before, Nintendo are splitting their marketbase by offering two similar, but different products.
Sony are easily in the stronger position. If only because everybody knows what a Nintendo handheld can do already, all the speculation is on how powerful the PSP will be. The speculation on the DS is mostly limited to "what the hell for??"... or "How are they going to use it?"
Also Sony are the brand name that sells in videogames. If Nintendo aren't worried they deserve to fail, but they obviously are (hence the DS).
Sony are easily in the stronger position. If only because everybody knows what a Nintendo handheld can do already, all the speculation is on how powerful the PSP will be. The speculation on the DS is mostly limited to "what the hell for??"... or "How are they going to use it?"
Also Sony are the brand name that sells in videogames. If Nintendo aren't worried they deserve to fail, but they obviously are (hence the DS).
Dringo wrote:
> Are you excited yet?
Not in the slightest.
> Are you excited yet?
Not in the slightest.
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