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No idea what multiplayer is like, because I grew bored of that rubbish years ago on the PC, and playing against headset wearing kids really doesn't appeal.
However - the single player game is absolutely fantastic.
A definite improvement over the original in terms of graphics and certainly in gameplay.
Remember in the 1st how those poxy wall-lights, the tiny bulbs would take a few shots even though you were lined up perfecto? Not any more, even if you don't use the laser sight supplied.
The AI that meant gaurds on the other end of a level knew you had killed somebody way back and alarms went off? Nope.
Just good solid stealth action. And none of your MGS2 crap either.
Because despite the hype, what was that game?
"Check radar, wait, shoot and stuff in locker. Repeat" with endless cut scenes, fixed cameras and preachy moralising (although the politics of this game are slightly suspect to say the least...crush East Timoor Rebels? Er...)
There is much to be said for silently creeping along a darkened corridor, climbing onto a pipe and shimmying across, hanging from your feet and shooting a baddie upside down.
However, I've reached the Indonesia Jungle levels and...oh yes.
Amazing graphics, really puts you in the atmosphere with tall grass that bends and folds as you duck-walk through it, simply incredible. The mist and light effect would do Ridley Scott proud and there's something immensely satisfying about popping up, shooting somebody in the head and ducking back into the pampas grass before anybody knows what's what.
If you wanted MGS2 to be immersive stealth with the minutiae all in place and were left bored with another cut-scene as you walked through a door or simply grew weary of hiding in lockers for radars to go back to normal then pick up Splinter Cell 2.
It's worth it just for the jungle levels alone. Oh, and the train level. And Jeruselam is good fun.
Deus Ex 2 is a bit rubbish though, it has to be said.
However - the single player game is absolutely fantastic.
A definite improvement over the original in terms of graphics and certainly in gameplay.
Remember in the 1st how those poxy wall-lights, the tiny bulbs would take a few shots even though you were lined up perfecto? Not any more, even if you don't use the laser sight supplied.
The AI that meant gaurds on the other end of a level knew you had killed somebody way back and alarms went off? Nope.
Just good solid stealth action. And none of your MGS2 crap either.
Because despite the hype, what was that game?
"Check radar, wait, shoot and stuff in locker. Repeat" with endless cut scenes, fixed cameras and preachy moralising (although the politics of this game are slightly suspect to say the least...crush East Timoor Rebels? Er...)
There is much to be said for silently creeping along a darkened corridor, climbing onto a pipe and shimmying across, hanging from your feet and shooting a baddie upside down.
However, I've reached the Indonesia Jungle levels and...oh yes.
Amazing graphics, really puts you in the atmosphere with tall grass that bends and folds as you duck-walk through it, simply incredible. The mist and light effect would do Ridley Scott proud and there's something immensely satisfying about popping up, shooting somebody in the head and ducking back into the pampas grass before anybody knows what's what.
If you wanted MGS2 to be immersive stealth with the minutiae all in place and were left bored with another cut-scene as you walked through a door or simply grew weary of hiding in lockers for radars to go back to normal then pick up Splinter Cell 2.
It's worth it just for the jungle levels alone. Oh, and the train level. And Jeruselam is good fun.
Deus Ex 2 is a bit rubbish though, it has to be said.
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The point i was making is that the box says 4 player and then besides it 4 player link, meaning i have to set up another TV in my room and buy the connector lead for boxes, i feel cheated. oh and btw iv got a copy of Need for speed underground for the xbox, i hate the game, any one wants it cheap send me a offer at [email protected]
TJ
TJ
I'm getting SC2 hopefully this week, if not then next.
I canni wait.
I may finish the original one to get myself in the mood.
I canni wait.
I may finish the original one to get myself in the mood.
That's what I thought about Halo. It was good, very good in-fact, but when it came down to it, it was simply a puzzle game. Use X weapon against X enemy, put X grenade there, go X direction. Tactical Tetris with explosions.
The last level of this game has to be the most annoying thing ever - makes me want to break the bloody disc in half ! Sometimes this trial and error gameplay makes it feel like a flashier Dragons Lair, but with more control over the character than pressing a direction. Thing is, I don't feel like I'm achieving anything by skill and stuff, I end up feeling more like "good, finally found the exact way I HAVE to do it". Would be nice to have various ways of actually doing stuff rather than being dictated to.
Its just more of a chore to complete it than fun. In fact, besides the train level having some great moments in it, the only fun I've really had without wanting to break the controller and kill everyone at Ubisoft, is when I knocked a couple of guards out with bottles. Otherwise its just a constant ride of frustration and desperation to get past a particular obnoxious part of a level and get to the save point so you never have to see it again. Thank god for the Live play.
Its just more of a chore to complete it than fun. In fact, besides the train level having some great moments in it, the only fun I've really had without wanting to break the controller and kill everyone at Ubisoft, is when I knocked a couple of guards out with bottles. Otherwise its just a constant ride of frustration and desperation to get past a particular obnoxious part of a level and get to the save point so you never have to see it again. Thank god for the Live play.
The Judge wrote:
> Am i the only one that was amazingly disapointed that you need more
> than one xbox or an internet connection to play multiplayer? i
> wonderd how they would make multiplayer possible but it could be done
> on one xbox and i feel that iv brought a game that even though
> amazingly great on one player lets me down wen i wanted it as a
> multiplayer game for the lads. Oh and by the way ladies im on level 8
> and its bi*chin!
>
> TJ
I honestly bought it for the single player, the live play was just a bonus... Not a very good bonus though. The only reason i'm not at level 8 is because i've been busy with other things... Just you wait till thursday (when my holiday starts) and i'll have it finished before friday.
> Am i the only one that was amazingly disapointed that you need more
> than one xbox or an internet connection to play multiplayer? i
> wonderd how they would make multiplayer possible but it could be done
> on one xbox and i feel that iv brought a game that even though
> amazingly great on one player lets me down wen i wanted it as a
> multiplayer game for the lads. Oh and by the way ladies im on level 8
> and its bi*chin!
>
> TJ
I honestly bought it for the single player, the live play was just a bonus... Not a very good bonus though. The only reason i'm not at level 8 is because i've been busy with other things... Just you wait till thursday (when my holiday starts) and i'll have it finished before friday.
Very nearly the perfect single-player game - absssssssssorbing. Like the first except better.
I've got a sneaky (see what I did there ;p) suspicion that my girlie has got me this for my birthday. Which is tomorrow.
Hmmmm I think I may get myself a copy. I saw a brief review on a DVD and the graphics (and sound) were amazing. It sounds like it plays well too so there really is no choice in the matter.
I've yet to pick it up, but Ubisoft would have to gone and got drunk to have had a chance of messing it up, they just seem to ooze talent.
As for the multiplayer Judge, it is the same with Rainbow Six 3 as well. The reason is that with a tactical, stealthy game, being able to see your opponents screen kind of ruins it to be honest. System link however doesn't. OK, so its a bit of a bummer, but I can live with that, I just get a mate to bring his Xbox with him when he comes over now.
As for the multiplayer Judge, it is the same with Rainbow Six 3 as well. The reason is that with a tactical, stealthy game, being able to see your opponents screen kind of ruins it to be honest. System link however doesn't. OK, so its a bit of a bummer, but I can live with that, I just get a mate to bring his Xbox with him when he comes over now.
I can't see how split screen would work on Splinter Cell 2, you easily be able to screen watch, it would become boring if you knew where the spys were, which is why it's Live/System link only.
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