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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.
But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.
Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.
Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.
Oh Sympathy where have you gone.
First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?
And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.
I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.
So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.
Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.
Dringo.
But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.
Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.
Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.
Oh Sympathy where have you gone.
First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?
And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.
I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.
So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.
Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.
Dringo.
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In my situation, the Gamecube sort of fails in the multiplayer area. Now, I know many of you will be staring in disbelief following this statement, but the thing is: my mates only want to play football and racing games, which the Gamecube is greatly short on. Yeah, there's Mario Kart, but other than that, there's not much more worth talking about. F-Zero GX is great in single-player, but it doesn't deliver the same in multiplayer.
Hence PS2 being my idea console for multiplayer. Although, really only because of Pro Evo 3, which is fantastic. Racing games don't matter when you've got the best football game since ISS98 with a multitap.
Hence PS2 being my idea console for multiplayer. Although, really only because of Pro Evo 3, which is fantastic. Racing games don't matter when you've got the best football game since ISS98 with a multitap.
tphi wrote:
> Which game is this.. the one where Peach gets kidnapped for the
> hundredth time or the one Peach gets kidnapped for the hundredth and
> first time? :P
Hehe. I had Zelda in mind. :-)
Ok, not ALWAYS the best in story. ;-)
> You're beginning to sound horribly like er-no.. :D
You're saying that like it's a bad thing! :-O
> Which game is this.. the one where Peach gets kidnapped for the
> hundredth time or the one Peach gets kidnapped for the hundredth and
> first time? :P
Hehe. I had Zelda in mind. :-)
Ok, not ALWAYS the best in story. ;-)
> You're beginning to sound horribly like er-no.. :D
You're saying that like it's a bad thing! :-O
*Skim-reads thread*
Ok, my first Next-Gen purchase was the GC. To start with I thought the Xbox was going to be dead in the water (having played that racing game where you run), then I played Halo and finished it on co-op.
Back to the Cube and I had a lot of Arcadey excluive titles which were good but I knew they'd wouldn't have much longevity past 6 months. Then TS2 came out with the level designer, I remembered the Xboxes HD and how good the FPS games were using the Xbox controller compared to the GC controller which I used to complete AUF but I didn't gel with the GC controller too much, even with Turok 4.
Gradually I preffered the feel of the Xbox controllers, they felt more solid and less, um, clicky.
Gradually my Xbox stole the multiformat titles, multiplayer and online leaving the Cube in a pretty lonely place.
Still the exclusives were there for my cube, Mario Kart wasn't a patch on the '64 version as far as multiplayer and F-Zero lacked the all important random tracks of the '64 version.
After not touching the Cube for about 4 months I sold it to a friend who can appreciate the more arcade style games I have for it.
I will get another Cube for Custom Robo but without decent online capabilties and a controller I'm not content to play FPS games with... it's going to only have a few titles bought for it.
Next console there'd better be proper online support and a controller that suits FPS games a little better, and a large storage device would be most welcome too.
If I was more of a solitary gamer then my Cube would have survived a lot better. :)
Ok, my first Next-Gen purchase was the GC. To start with I thought the Xbox was going to be dead in the water (having played that racing game where you run), then I played Halo and finished it on co-op.
Back to the Cube and I had a lot of Arcadey excluive titles which were good but I knew they'd wouldn't have much longevity past 6 months. Then TS2 came out with the level designer, I remembered the Xboxes HD and how good the FPS games were using the Xbox controller compared to the GC controller which I used to complete AUF but I didn't gel with the GC controller too much, even with Turok 4.
Gradually I preffered the feel of the Xbox controllers, they felt more solid and less, um, clicky.
Gradually my Xbox stole the multiformat titles, multiplayer and online leaving the Cube in a pretty lonely place.
Still the exclusives were there for my cube, Mario Kart wasn't a patch on the '64 version as far as multiplayer and F-Zero lacked the all important random tracks of the '64 version.
After not touching the Cube for about 4 months I sold it to a friend who can appreciate the more arcade style games I have for it.
I will get another Cube for Custom Robo but without decent online capabilties and a controller I'm not content to play FPS games with... it's going to only have a few titles bought for it.
Next console there'd better be proper online support and a controller that suits FPS games a little better, and a large storage device would be most welcome too.
If I was more of a solitary gamer then my Cube would have survived a lot better. :)
Also, Eternal Darkness is never going to be released on another system other than a Ninty one - SK may have dev'ed the game, but the name, copyrights and intellectual properties belong to Nintendo.
So while the next (if there is indeed to be a 'next') Eternal Darkness may not be developed by SK, it will certainly be exclusive to Nintendo - unless of course they get ride of the license. Which I think we would all agree is not going to happen. Nintendo may not care for retaining dev studios, but they do like to keep hold of their IP.
However, on the other hand, some would say that if you take away the team who made the first ED game, and hence made it what it was, then you could ask, would a sequel dev'ed by another studio be anything more than a sequel in name. I don't know.
So while the next (if there is indeed to be a 'next') Eternal Darkness may not be developed by SK, it will certainly be exclusive to Nintendo - unless of course they get ride of the license. Which I think we would all agree is not going to happen. Nintendo may not care for retaining dev studios, but they do like to keep hold of their IP.
However, on the other hand, some would say that if you take away the team who made the first ED game, and hence made it what it was, then you could ask, would a sequel dev'ed by another studio be anything more than a sequel in name. I don't know.
Dringo wrote:
> Also Ridge Racer 64 was the best Racer on the N64.
It wasn't exactly up against much competition though was it!
A good game and no doubt, but when your competition is, for all intense and purpose, none existent, that isn't much of a claim.
> Also Ridge Racer 64 was the best Racer on the N64.
It wasn't exactly up against much competition though was it!
A good game and no doubt, but when your competition is, for all intense and purpose, none existent, that isn't much of a claim.
ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> I'm sorry but online play makes the Xbox, without it the console would
> be screwed.
The HD helps a lot, that made it my choice for multiformat titles, also System Link can be fantastic and while not a strong reason to get an xbox I'd rather have downloadable content than not have it.
> I'm sorry but online play makes the Xbox, without it the console would
> be screwed.
The HD helps a lot, that made it my choice for multiformat titles, also System Link can be fantastic and while not a strong reason to get an xbox I'd rather have downloadable content than not have it.
I merger with SEGA wouldn't make up for the loss of SK. You may think I'm going over the top for the loss of 1 development teams exclusivety, but I loved ED so much and Too Human was always looking to be top notch. Now we'll have to put up with inferior graphics if it is multiformat and perhaps a less fluient control system. Of course, there's still small chance that could retain its exclusivety due it being in development for the Cube for a fair while now.
Nintendo need either Namco or Capcom (probably the latter more so) if they want to think about surviving. This will be a huge blow to Nintendo's fans and surely them some consumers, so we need a big buyout, and a big buyout quickly.
At least E3 is looking to be completely focused on Nintendo with the unvieling of some brand new titles, but I still feel they need something more, and adult franchise of some sort, somethign to really replace the genius' that were SK.
Nintendo need either Namco or Capcom (probably the latter more so) if they want to think about surviving. This will be a huge blow to Nintendo's fans and surely them some consumers, so we need a big buyout, and a big buyout quickly.
At least E3 is looking to be completely focused on Nintendo with the unvieling of some brand new titles, but I still feel they need something more, and adult franchise of some sort, somethign to really replace the genius' that were SK.
The merger would work in a similar style to Square Enix.
Nintendo would get a piece of the arcade market they've always wanted and SEGA get back into home console territory. If SEGA re-entered the market it would be a 4 way fight and there isn't even room for 3 consoles let alone 4. A merger with Nintendo would allow two similar companies, with SEGA having it's own sports range and adult titles... something Nintendo miss dreadfully. Both with their own die-hard fan base.
They'd keep eachother afloat perfectly.
Nintendo would get a piece of the arcade market they've always wanted and SEGA get back into home console territory. If SEGA re-entered the market it would be a 4 way fight and there isn't even room for 3 consoles let alone 4. A merger with Nintendo would allow two similar companies, with SEGA having it's own sports range and adult titles... something Nintendo miss dreadfully. Both with their own die-hard fan base.
They'd keep eachother afloat perfectly.
Indeed Nintendo are a really rich company: much richer than many would believe, due to their almost non-existant advertising policy and bias against the Western gamers.
But a merger with SEGA? Interesting one, that. I think SEGA have pulled out of the hardware market for good, though. They were damanged badly with the failure of the Dreamcast, even although it was a great console. And so Nintendo would have to be the main support of the relationship if they did really team up. And that isn't Nintendo's style: I don't see them funding another company if they aren't absolutely certain they'd get something out of it. Good idea, though. :-)
But a merger with SEGA? Interesting one, that. I think SEGA have pulled out of the hardware market for good, though. They were damanged badly with the failure of the Dreamcast, even although it was a great console. And so Nintendo would have to be the main support of the relationship if they did really team up. And that isn't Nintendo's style: I don't see them funding another company if they aren't absolutely certain they'd get something out of it. Good idea, though. :-)
Nintendo have just under $6.2 billion in liquid assets... excluding all their departments and first party developers and franchises. Cutting ties with Silicon Knights add to their liquid assets.
In other words Nintendo have a massive amount of money.
What I'm interested in is if SEGA and Sammy fancy re-entering the console market... Because I know a certain Japanese giant that could do with a merger.
In other words Nintendo have a massive amount of money.
What I'm interested in is if SEGA and Sammy fancy re-entering the console market... Because I know a certain Japanese giant that could do with a merger.
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