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Mon 09/07/01 at 01:21
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Does anyone know what the latest progress on chipping PS2's is? When they first came out it was supposedly possible, but now i hear that there is no safe way to chip PS2's.
Does anyone know? It would be the greatest thing ever if it was...
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:33
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Tellah wrote:
> I've decided to reverse on my arguement and say that 2nd hand
> playstation games can be picked up very cheaply for PS1. Perfect for
> kids on any sort of pocket money level! Maybe the poorer countries
> are an exception though....

Maybe clean water, food, clothing and shelter might be a priority in the poorer countries. It depends how poor you want to go...
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:31
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Kids can by second hand, where's the harm in that?
Kids can share games amongst each other.
They can rent them from Blockbuster.
Their parents can get credit.

There's no excuses for piracy, and the gaming industry, still concussed by the impact of piracy, is hardly in a position to offer kids a break. If piracy didn't exist in the first place, perhaps we wouldn't be in this situation.
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:30
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I've decided to reverse on my arguement and say that 2nd hand playstation games can be picked up very cheaply for PS1. Perfect for kids on any sort of pocket money level! Maybe the poorer countries are an exception though....
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:21
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Yeah. It's basically putting a value on a bunch of 1 and 0's and people don't see that as theft. I DO!
But I feel that kids should get a break, in the same way as a bus pass, admission to cinema etc. That's basically my arguement, what can I say I'm left-wing liberal.
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:16
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But that would be open to abuse. In
> the same way that young kids loiter outside the off-licence asking
> adults to buy them cigarettes, you'd have grown men loitering
> outside Game trying to get a kid to buy them MGS2 at £20 off!
> Not ideal! :-)

LOL! That would look a little dodgy + a bit ironic!
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:15
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Tellah wrote:
> We certainly agree that drugs is a bad way to make money. So do you
> think that kids should be given discount on games (instead of ok to
> copy), so they don't get into such positions?

And discounts on bicycles/clothes/TV's/sweets/?

Games are expensive for a reason. But then, so is a Scalectrix set. What do kids do when they want to race cars? They get their parents to buy it for them. If their parents can't afford it? They don't get it. Simple.

But because burning off a game is so EASY, people do it, and what irks the gamers who play by the rules, is that the people using pirated games don't seem to care how they are affecting the gaming industry, and they come out with the excuses like "I can't afford it so..." or "Games are too expensive so..." or "Who's it going to hurt so..."

None of the above excuses are valid. If you can't afford it, don't steal it.
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:13
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Tellah wrote:
> We certainly agree that drugs is a bad way to make money. So do you
> think that kids should be given discount on games (instead of ok to
> copy), so they don't get into such positions?

Something like that would be a good idea in principle - kind of like the old school bus pass I used to have in London, to prove that I was under 16.

But that would be open to abuse. In the same way that young kids loiter outside the off-licence asking adults to buy them cigarettes, you'd have grown men loitering outside Game trying to get a kid to buy them MGS2 at £20 off! Not ideal! :-)
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:12
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FM, you have strong morals. That's a good quality.
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:12
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Tellah wrote:
So do you
> think that kids should be given discount on games (instead of ok to
> copy), so they don't get into such positions?

Never happen! Anti gaming people will see this as encouraging their kids to play games. They'll never admit that their own little sprog would dream of copying them.

When the government announces "discounts on kids games to stop piracy", The parents will think to themselves: "My kid never copies stuff, you're trying to make my kid unhealthy"

etc etc....
Tue 10/07/01 at 17:09
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Tellah wrote:
> Wookie: The programmers copying thing was just a futile provokation. Sorry! I
> know - we work hard for a living writing adapted + original code!


No problem. It's a discussion, not an argument - no offence was taken.

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