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"Bonus would like to concede that he was wrong about the Gamecube!!"

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Wed 27/06/01 at 13:45
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I actually thought that it would be technically better than the PS2, boy was I wrong!!!

Hands up how many Nintendo fans tried to s**g off the PS2 for only having 4Mb of embedded VRAM for the Graphics synthesiser chip. Come on now don't be shy, oh well all of you may be interested enough to here that in an official interview on Gamespot ATI's VP of engineering announced that the Gamecube only has 3Mb of embedded VRAM, and it is no where near as fast as the PS2's DRDRAM, which runs at 800mghz and allows a much higher bandwidth in and out of the chip!!

Shame on you all, now apologize to Bonus, then go read the full interview at the address below!!


http://www.gamespot.co.uk /stories/news/ 0,2160,2088313,00.html

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Wed 27/06/01 at 14:15
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Its like Meka said, you have to look at the machine as a fully functioning unit, aparently the PS2 is a pain to program and all its extra V-Ram isn't going to make the machine any easier to program.

At the end of day these machines are so fast that the ammount of v-ram isnt going to make a big difference in the overall picture. Just look at the games comming out on GameCube, they look really nice.
Wed 27/06/01 at 14:09
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So what?
Wed 27/06/01 at 14:09
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Thats quite an impressively slow double post...
Wed 27/06/01 at 14:05
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Meka, this is also why I prefer my PS2, but many N=other Nintendo fans tried to s**g off the PS2 due to it's lack of VRAM, but it has more VrAM than the Gamecube and it is twice as fats, time for my revenge, I feel!!
Wed 27/06/01 at 14:04
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This is a nintendo only console they are not some Bill Gates gloaters that talk about the power of the X-Box this is about the next best Nintendo machine ever!
Wed 27/06/01 at 14:02
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Meka, this is also why I prefer my PS2, but many N=other Nintendo fans tried to s**g off the PS2 due to it's lack of VRAM, but it has more VrAM than the Gamecube and it is twice as fats, time for my revenge, I feel!!
Wed 27/06/01 at 13:58
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The arcitecture of each console is very different, as a result of this, comparing specific parts is pointless.

Personally I'll make my choice depending upon the games available, and as it stands at the moment I prefer what I see to be coming to the GAMECUBE as opposed to the PS2.
Wed 27/06/01 at 13:58
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slaveunit wrote:
> It has not been made to do
> multiple jobs as the PS2
> has.

The DVD facilities of the PS2 were a last minute add on
> rather than an initial feature (proven by the fact that it wasnt
> ready for the jap launch). Its just a bonus that the PS2 utilises
> due to the DVD format it uses.

NOOOO, shhhhh, not true and allows Ninty fans to speak about my beloved PS2!!!
Wed 27/06/01 at 13:58
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Sniper the PS2 was not made by Toshiba to play DVDs, they integrated an MPEG2 decoder into the Emotion Engine so that developers could playback DVD quality footage during their games (for FMVs etc!!), a perfect example of this is GT3 which has moving video footage in the background of the car selection screens!! The PS2 was not initially designed to play DVDs, but the technology was their so Sony decided to utilise it!! It did not cost any more in terms of hardware to make the PS2 DVD-movie compatible, so why shouldn't it be??

But my main point here is, many Nintendo fans accused the PS2 as being crap because it olny had $Mb of embedded VRAM running at a Bandwidth of 42GB\sec, the Gamecube only has 3MB running at 20Gb\sec, so where is the logic in that??? The Gamecube can have it's secondary memory used to staore graphical data, and there is 16Mb of that, but the bandwidth drops to 3.2Gb\sec!! In real terms what this means is Nintendo fans might now believe Bonus when he says that the way these new consoles are designed, they do not need massive amounts of VRAM, because they have massive bandwidths to store data in and they are crunshing numbers at one hell of a rate!!
Wed 27/06/01 at 13:56
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It has not been made to do
> multiple jobs as the PS2 has.

The DVD facilities of the PS2 were a last minute add on rather than an initial feature (proven by the fact that it wasnt ready for the jap launch). Its just a bonus that the PS2 utilises due to the DVD format it uses.

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