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What prompted me to make this thread was part of Microsofts £500m advertising fund being spent on some bloke bleating a load of crap about other consoles, making out X-box is the one & only saviour.
His only two words used when commenting on the Gamecube were: "Kiddy" & "Console"…
I am sick to death of people saying that the Gamecube will be for kids & kids alone. I would like to know when they found out it was only going to be for kids. Was there a press release from Nintendo stating this? What research has been done? Have they seen the game list? Eyed up any previews?
Sure, there will be some games with kiddy themes. But every console has games with kiddy themes. Take, for example, one of the most popular consoles in gaming history, The Playstation:
Croc & it's sequels, Spyro & it's sequels, DD Quack Attack, Hercules, Aladdin, Casper, Toy Story, The Lion King, Little Mermaid, Digimon, Chicken Run, Crash Bandicoot & it's sequels…
To name but a few. Just because there are kiddy games available for a console it doesn't mean there will only be kiddy games on that console.
Look at the potential GC line-up in the first 6 months/year:
Theme Park, Survivor, Creatures, RoboCop, Dragons Lair 3d, Pikmin, Halo, Duke Nukem, Monkey Balls, F1, Ferrari 360 Challenge, Rush Club, Virtual Velocity Racing, Racer dev. by Saffire, Hot Wheels, Jeremy McGrath Supercross, Thunder Rally, F Zero Cube???, Animal Forest, Rebirth, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda, Pokemon game, Mario Game, Mario Kart, 13xDisney Games (inc mickey mouse adventures), PD2, DK Cube, Starfox Adventures (was dinosaur planet), Donkey Kong Racing, Kameo, Conkeys other bad fur day, Grabbed by the ghoulies, Super Smash Bros. Melee, WaveRace: BlueStorm, Metroid?, excite bike cube?, NBA Court Side, 1080 Cube?, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, Thornado, StarWars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron 2, PSOv2, Sonic Adventure, Planet Harrier, Batman, VIP, Virtual Velocity, NFL Blitz, NHL Hitz, MK5, Turok??, All Star Baseball, Crazy Taxi, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX2, Extreme g3, NFL 2002, Madden NFL 2002, SSX: SE, FIFA, Harry Potter, James Bond, Mission impossible 2, Tony Hawks 3, Stuart little, Jackie chan adventures, Spider-man Movie, RE4, RE0, Crash bandicoot, Engalus, Silent space, X-Isle: Dinosaur Island, Tetris, WWF, Die Hard: Next Generation, E.T., Galleon, Picasso, Stunt driver, Title defense boxing, Tiny Toon adventures & some Army Men Games…
My belief is that 4% of the above games would be enjoyed by the younger market only, 13% of the games would appeal to the older market only, leaving the remaining 83% playable & enjoyable to all ages (except for the Army Men games ). It sometimes amazes me to find how pig ignorant some people can be. How did they decide from this that the GC was going to be a kiddy console? It won't exactly be an adult only console, but no-one can boast to owning one of those.
More importantly how come gore and blood was adult, games like Resident Evil i laugh at the same way i laughed at Evil Dead when iw as younger. These are more like Teenage games and Adults are grown up to find games like Luigi enjoyable and isn't annoyed because a bloke has his head blown off!
Dringo
His only two words used when commenting on the Gamecube were: "Kiddy" & "Console"…
I am sick to death of people saying that the Gamecube will be for kids & kids alone. I would like to know when they found out it was only going to be for kids. Was there a press release from Nintendo stating this? What research has been done? Have they seen the game list? Eyed up any previews?
Sure, there will be some games with kiddy themes. But every console has games with kiddy themes. Take, for example, one of the most popular consoles in gaming history, The Playstation:
Croc & it's sequels, Spyro & it's sequels, DD Quack Attack, Hercules, Aladdin, Casper, Toy Story, The Lion King, Little Mermaid, Digimon, Chicken Run, Crash Bandicoot & it's sequels…
To name but a few. Just because there are kiddy games available for a console it doesn't mean there will only be kiddy games on that console.
Look at the potential GC line-up in the first 6 months/year:
Theme Park, Survivor, Creatures, RoboCop, Dragons Lair 3d, Pikmin, Halo, Duke Nukem, Monkey Balls, F1, Ferrari 360 Challenge, Rush Club, Virtual Velocity Racing, Racer dev. by Saffire, Hot Wheels, Jeremy McGrath Supercross, Thunder Rally, F Zero Cube???, Animal Forest, Rebirth, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda, Pokemon game, Mario Game, Mario Kart, 13xDisney Games (inc mickey mouse adventures), PD2, DK Cube, Starfox Adventures (was dinosaur planet), Donkey Kong Racing, Kameo, Conkeys other bad fur day, Grabbed by the ghoulies, Super Smash Bros. Melee, WaveRace: BlueStorm, Metroid?, excite bike cube?, NBA Court Side, 1080 Cube?, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, Thornado, StarWars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron 2, PSOv2, Sonic Adventure, Planet Harrier, Batman, VIP, Virtual Velocity, NFL Blitz, NHL Hitz, MK5, Turok??, All Star Baseball, Crazy Taxi, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX2, Extreme g3, NFL 2002, Madden NFL 2002, SSX: SE, FIFA, Harry Potter, James Bond, Mission impossible 2, Tony Hawks 3, Stuart little, Jackie chan adventures, Spider-man Movie, RE4, RE0, Crash bandicoot, Engalus, Silent space, X-Isle: Dinosaur Island, Tetris, WWF, Die Hard: Next Generation, E.T., Galleon, Picasso, Stunt driver, Title defense boxing, Tiny Toon adventures & some Army Men Games…
My belief is that 4% of the above games would be enjoyed by the younger market only, 13% of the games would appeal to the older market only, leaving the remaining 83% playable & enjoyable to all ages (except for the Army Men games ). It sometimes amazes me to find how pig ignorant some people can be. How did they decide from this that the GC was going to be a kiddy console? It won't exactly be an adult only console, but no-one can boast to owning one of those.
More importantly how come gore and blood was adult, games like Resident Evil i laugh at the same way i laughed at Evil Dead when iw as younger. These are more like Teenage games and Adults are grown up to find games like Luigi enjoyable and isn't annoyed because a bloke has his head blown off!
Dringo
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Hey Shocky get over to my story on the chat. The 2nd part is there. I needed to know what you wanted to be called for the 3rd part. I started the 3rd bit today it will probably be done for tommorrow night. But you know me tommorrow could mean friday night.
I'd have to murder Dringo for this post. Admittedly, it's very good. The catch? I was going to post the EXACT same thing. Even if I tried posting something similar, it would be too closely linked with this one!
Sod's law ay?
Sod's law ay?
FM why do you attack Nintendo fans? If we never mature then why is are Console getting grown up? Surley if we don't mature we'll have to buy a Playstation to play kid games!
Fantasy Meister wrote:
It's a known fact that die-hard Ninties never mature.
Well FM hasn't matured yet, so why should we have to?
:-D
It's a known fact that die-hard Ninties never mature.
Well FM hasn't matured yet, so why should we have to?
:-D
*FM removes glasses and spot cream, Grix explains to Sniper why that actually wasn't Bill*
OK, firstly let me apologise for the "Kiddy Console" comment we made about the Gamecube. We got a lot of people to sum up the current/future consoles with just two words, and we picked "Kiddy Console" because over 50% of our researchers came up with it. (49% said "Muddy Graphics", which we thought was a bit unfair, after seeing the prototype in action we thought "muddy" was over-hyping the GC a bit).
Because here in the States advertising is so expensive, we were limited to just two words. If our budget had allowed it we would have allowed four words for each console, but we dropped this idea because we couldn't find any Nintendo fans that knew four words.
All in all we feel that "Kiddy Console" was a fair approximation of what the GC will become. We agree with the posters here that the GC WILL be the trainer console for the future generation of mature gamers, but in 7 years time they'll be playing the Y-Box, so we'll be ready for that. It's a known fact that die-hard Ninties never mature anyway, those that do break the mould and go onto other consoles for a richer gaming life, whereas the die-hards will still be getting plumbers to collect stars 10-20 years from now.
Next Gen, (after X-Box and GC), will be a challenge, with Microsoft already leading the field with the Y-Box scheduled for release 5 years from now. Nintendo have been developing the GameSphere to combat this, but there have been problems in development with its built-in rumble pak, it makes the GameSphere roll off the table where it was initially placed.
Because our advertising budget has already been spent, and the ads have been in production for a while now, Microsoft have neither the inclination nor the funding to change things now, and we'll be going with 'kiddy console'.
Because here in the States advertising is so expensive, we were limited to just two words. If our budget had allowed it we would have allowed four words for each console, but we dropped this idea because we couldn't find any Nintendo fans that knew four words.
All in all we feel that "Kiddy Console" was a fair approximation of what the GC will become. We agree with the posters here that the GC WILL be the trainer console for the future generation of mature gamers, but in 7 years time they'll be playing the Y-Box, so we'll be ready for that. It's a known fact that die-hard Ninties never mature anyway, those that do break the mould and go onto other consoles for a richer gaming life, whereas the die-hards will still be getting plumbers to collect stars 10-20 years from now.
Next Gen, (after X-Box and GC), will be a challenge, with Microsoft already leading the field with the Y-Box scheduled for release 5 years from now. Nintendo have been developing the GameSphere to combat this, but there have been problems in development with its built-in rumble pak, it makes the GameSphere roll off the table where it was initially placed.
Because our advertising budget has already been spent, and the ads have been in production for a while now, Microsoft have neither the inclination nor the funding to change things now, and we'll be going with 'kiddy console'.
Ok i'll reply, you don't like Banjo what is wrong with you? It is true i enjoy Nintendo's kiddies games much more than the adult but i'm just pointing out the fact that Nintendo do have adult games, I can Guarentee Extereme G3 is being released as N64 magazine has a section about it!
Lylat Wars was easy but it was fun i loved killing the wolf gang thingy shooting them down was so satisfying!
Dringo
Lylat Wars was easy but it was fun i loved killing the wolf gang thingy shooting them down was so satisfying!
Dringo
er....um....er....
Hmmm....need to think carefully.....er....
Train Game.
Because you get to be a passenger.
And it's half-the-price.
But I would still rather charge naked through a lion's den painted like a zebra than play either of these.
Hmmm....need to think carefully.....er....
Train Game.
Because you get to be a passenger.
And it's half-the-price.
But I would still rather charge naked through a lion's den painted like a zebra than play either of these.
There is one thing I have to know.
Lylat Wars, or Microsoft Train Simulator.
If you had to play one, which would you choose?
Lylat Wars, or Microsoft Train Simulator.
If you had to play one, which would you choose?
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