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What prompted me to make this thread was part of Microsofts £500m advertising fund being spent on some bloke bleating a load of crap about other consoles, making out X-box is the one & only saviour.
His only two words used when commenting on the Gamecube were: "Kiddy" & "Console"…
I am sick to death of people saying that the Gamecube will be for kids & kids alone. I would like to know when they found out it was only going to be for kids. Was there a press release from Nintendo stating this? What research has been done? Have they seen the game list? Eyed up any previews?
Sure, there will be some games with kiddy themes. But every console has games with kiddy themes. Take, for example, one of the most popular consoles in gaming history, The Playstation:
Croc & it's sequels, Spyro & it's sequels, DD Quack Attack, Hercules, Aladdin, Casper, Toy Story, The Lion King, Little Mermaid, Digimon, Chicken Run, Crash Bandicoot & it's sequels…
To name but a few. Just because there are kiddy games available for a console it doesn't mean there will only be kiddy games on that console.
Look at the potential GC line-up in the first 6 months/year:
Theme Park, Survivor, Creatures, RoboCop, Dragons Lair 3d, Pikmin, Halo, Duke Nukem, Monkey Balls, F1, Ferrari 360 Challenge, Rush Club, Virtual Velocity Racing, Racer dev. by Saffire, Hot Wheels, Jeremy McGrath Supercross, Thunder Rally, F Zero Cube???, Animal Forest, Rebirth, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda, Pokemon game, Mario Game, Mario Kart, 13xDisney Games (inc mickey mouse adventures), PD2, DK Cube, Starfox Adventures (was dinosaur planet), Donkey Kong Racing, Kameo, Conkeys other bad fur day, Grabbed by the ghoulies, Super Smash Bros. Melee, WaveRace: BlueStorm, Metroid?, excite bike cube?, NBA Court Side, 1080 Cube?, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, Thornado, StarWars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron 2, PSOv2, Sonic Adventure, Planet Harrier, Batman, VIP, Virtual Velocity, NFL Blitz, NHL Hitz, MK5, Turok??, All Star Baseball, Crazy Taxi, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX2, Extreme g3, NFL 2002, Madden NFL 2002, SSX: SE, FIFA, Harry Potter, James Bond, Mission impossible 2, Tony Hawks 3, Stuart little, Jackie chan adventures, Spider-man Movie, RE4, RE0, Crash bandicoot, Engalus, Silent space, X-Isle: Dinosaur Island, Tetris, WWF, Die Hard: Next Generation, E.T., Galleon, Picasso, Stunt driver, Title defense boxing, Tiny Toon adventures & some Army Men Games…
My belief is that 4% of the above games would be enjoyed by the younger market only, 13% of the games would appeal to the older market only, leaving the remaining 83% playable & enjoyable to all ages (except for the Army Men games ). It sometimes amazes me to find how pig ignorant some people can be. How did they decide from this that the GC was going to be a kiddy console? It won't exactly be an adult only console, but no-one can boast to owning one of those.
More importantly how come gore and blood was adult, games like Resident Evil i laugh at the same way i laughed at Evil Dead when iw as younger. These are more like Teenage games and Adults are grown up to find games like Luigi enjoyable and isn't annoyed because a bloke has his head blown off!
Dringo
His only two words used when commenting on the Gamecube were: "Kiddy" & "Console"…
I am sick to death of people saying that the Gamecube will be for kids & kids alone. I would like to know when they found out it was only going to be for kids. Was there a press release from Nintendo stating this? What research has been done? Have they seen the game list? Eyed up any previews?
Sure, there will be some games with kiddy themes. But every console has games with kiddy themes. Take, for example, one of the most popular consoles in gaming history, The Playstation:
Croc & it's sequels, Spyro & it's sequels, DD Quack Attack, Hercules, Aladdin, Casper, Toy Story, The Lion King, Little Mermaid, Digimon, Chicken Run, Crash Bandicoot & it's sequels…
To name but a few. Just because there are kiddy games available for a console it doesn't mean there will only be kiddy games on that console.
Look at the potential GC line-up in the first 6 months/year:
Theme Park, Survivor, Creatures, RoboCop, Dragons Lair 3d, Pikmin, Halo, Duke Nukem, Monkey Balls, F1, Ferrari 360 Challenge, Rush Club, Virtual Velocity Racing, Racer dev. by Saffire, Hot Wheels, Jeremy McGrath Supercross, Thunder Rally, F Zero Cube???, Animal Forest, Rebirth, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda, Pokemon game, Mario Game, Mario Kart, 13xDisney Games (inc mickey mouse adventures), PD2, DK Cube, Starfox Adventures (was dinosaur planet), Donkey Kong Racing, Kameo, Conkeys other bad fur day, Grabbed by the ghoulies, Super Smash Bros. Melee, WaveRace: BlueStorm, Metroid?, excite bike cube?, NBA Court Side, 1080 Cube?, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, Thornado, StarWars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron 2, PSOv2, Sonic Adventure, Planet Harrier, Batman, VIP, Virtual Velocity, NFL Blitz, NHL Hitz, MK5, Turok??, All Star Baseball, Crazy Taxi, Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX2, Extreme g3, NFL 2002, Madden NFL 2002, SSX: SE, FIFA, Harry Potter, James Bond, Mission impossible 2, Tony Hawks 3, Stuart little, Jackie chan adventures, Spider-man Movie, RE4, RE0, Crash bandicoot, Engalus, Silent space, X-Isle: Dinosaur Island, Tetris, WWF, Die Hard: Next Generation, E.T., Galleon, Picasso, Stunt driver, Title defense boxing, Tiny Toon adventures & some Army Men Games…
My belief is that 4% of the above games would be enjoyed by the younger market only, 13% of the games would appeal to the older market only, leaving the remaining 83% playable & enjoyable to all ages (except for the Army Men games ). It sometimes amazes me to find how pig ignorant some people can be. How did they decide from this that the GC was going to be a kiddy console? It won't exactly be an adult only console, but no-one can boast to owning one of those.
More importantly how come gore and blood was adult, games like Resident Evil i laugh at the same way i laughed at Evil Dead when iw as younger. These are more like Teenage games and Adults are grown up to find games like Luigi enjoyable and isn't annoyed because a bloke has his head blown off!
Dringo
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Dan uk wrote:
> CD's aren't as expensive to make as carts.
I think that's a bit of an understatement. CDs cost less than 50p each to make, carts I can only guess cost around £10-£15.
> CD's aren't as expensive to make as carts.
I think that's a bit of an understatement. CDs cost less than 50p each to make, carts I can only guess cost around £10-£15.
You didn't finish it, you just played through it.
There were loads of levels you hadn't even seen before and I bet that you hadn't got ANY of the medals.
If you'd played it properly and played through until you'd unlocked everything, it would've taken you atleast a month.
Besides, Nintendo stop charging £60 for their games now. CD's aren't as expensive to make as carts.
There were loads of levels you hadn't even seen before and I bet that you hadn't got ANY of the medals.
If you'd played it properly and played through until you'd unlocked everything, it would've taken you atleast a month.
Besides, Nintendo stop charging £60 for their games now. CD's aren't as expensive to make as carts.
Wouldn't know - never played you see.
Actually they have it is called Doctor Mario 64!
It turns out that the 'Kiddies' games are actually the more'playable'! Seriously.
Look, have Nintendo EVER produced a game that is virtually unplayable? No. Have they EVER produced a game where you've been utterly confused and ponder about something that veers totally from the matter at hand? No.
And what's more is that all of 'em are totally addictive...and most of all: FUN.
Shocky.
Look, have Nintendo EVER produced a game that is virtually unplayable? No. Have they EVER produced a game where you've been utterly confused and ponder about something that veers totally from the matter at hand? No.
And what's more is that all of 'em are totally addictive...and most of all: FUN.
Shocky.
Bonus wrote:
> Secondly, what I would regard as Kiddie games are games which will
> appeal mainly to the 10-16 age bracket. Adult games appeal to the
> 16+ age bracket
It doesn't work like that Bonus.
I think that you'll find that both age groups are attracted to the same games, red certificate especially.
The under 16 go for "cool violent games" for a laugh and to feel grown up.
The over 16's also play these games but are more likely to play them properly.
True gamers will play a decent game no matter the rating.
The only way a game can be called Kiddie is through it's complexity and/or challenge.
Mario and Pokemon are challenging games that can be enjoyed by all ages. If you s**g them off due to their cute graphics or franchise then you're simply a shallow gamer.
Some games like Mario Party are incredibly simplistic and can be called kiddie games. I still like them but I understand that they're meant for kids younger than me.
I'd say that Conkers Bad Fur day was no more grown up than Mario 64. So what if it had a sense of humour that would offend some people - wouldn't that make it more immature?
> Secondly, what I would regard as Kiddie games are games which will
> appeal mainly to the 10-16 age bracket. Adult games appeal to the
> 16+ age bracket
It doesn't work like that Bonus.
I think that you'll find that both age groups are attracted to the same games, red certificate especially.
The under 16 go for "cool violent games" for a laugh and to feel grown up.
The over 16's also play these games but are more likely to play them properly.
True gamers will play a decent game no matter the rating.
The only way a game can be called Kiddie is through it's complexity and/or challenge.
Mario and Pokemon are challenging games that can be enjoyed by all ages. If you s**g them off due to their cute graphics or franchise then you're simply a shallow gamer.
Some games like Mario Party are incredibly simplistic and can be called kiddie games. I still like them but I understand that they're meant for kids younger than me.
I'd say that Conkers Bad Fur day was no more grown up than Mario 64. So what if it had a sense of humour that would offend some people - wouldn't that make it more immature?
sorry for the bad spelling!
SR i would like to thank you for choosing me but...
as well a making me happy i am also angry i just read this about super monkey ball:
Fans of monkeys will lap it up, and many non-believers will be won over by its colourful graphics and 'zany' gameplay. It will also fit in perfectly with Nintendo's image. Not monkey abuse, but kid-friendly puzzle games.
Nintendo's image! kid-friendly puzzle games! What!!!!!! No i fell under imense presure! Even the almighty SR disagree with me!!!!!
Hang on you said image! That is true many say Nitnendo's image is childish but they aren't!
That is waht you emant isn't it, not childish but seem childish, yes they must of meant that...
Dringo walks off talking to himself
:)
as well a making me happy i am also angry i just read this about super monkey ball:
Fans of monkeys will lap it up, and many non-believers will be won over by its colourful graphics and 'zany' gameplay. It will also fit in perfectly with Nintendo's image. Not monkey abuse, but kid-friendly puzzle games.
Nintendo's image! kid-friendly puzzle games! What!!!!!! No i fell under imense presure! Even the almighty SR disagree with me!!!!!
Hang on you said image! That is true many say Nitnendo's image is childish but they aren't!
That is waht you emant isn't it, not childish but seem childish, yes they must of meant that...
Dringo walks off talking to himself
:)
I would like to thank Kid rock he provoked me to write a response to his comment of Nintendo being childish if he hadn't i wouldn't of wrote it and i wouldn't of won so thanxs kid rock!
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