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Tue 12/06/01 at 18:21
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Mario Vs. Snake Solid? - Not quite, these, as you all probably know, are the men behind the two gaming icons. Shigsy has a litle more creativity, but there's no doubting that Hideo is one hell of a games maker!

MGS2 is probably the most sound game around. I know all of you will have your preferances, but through the critics eye, MGS2 is near-prefect...

But then again, would there be room for Snake Solid if Mario hadn't opened up the gaming industry?! I don't think so!

In my book, Shigsy wins, not just because of his 'wacky' games, although they're a deciding factor, but more because of what he's done for the industry. Mario Bros. broke ground... it has done everytime an installment of the series was released... and then running around in full 3D in Super Mario 64... Gaming heaven!

I don't really think Hideo has done half as much for the industry... My views may be one-sided, but I don't see how...

Based on my knowledge... which isn't loads but a lot... Shigsy is overall a better contributor to the industry...

Shigsy 1 - 0 Hideo

Who'll score next?

You decide.


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Thu 14/06/01 at 16:40
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I still prefer Shigsy games!
Thu 14/06/01 at 16:34
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As Rav has said, Kojima is pushing everything to the limit, creating new genres of games and revolutionising gameoplay!!

And also as Rav said, the way Kojima uses astounding storylines and awesome gameplay together really is why he is, in my opinion, the BEST in the gaming world.
Thu 14/06/01 at 15:44
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SonicRav wrote:
> zeldapro wrote:
> Sigeru Myamoto I dont know if you have yet but
> look at his new games
> for the GameCube, like Animal Forest,
> Luigi's Mansion, Zelda,
> StarFox Adventures: Dino Planet, Super
> Smash Bros Melee etc.

did u miss my point??? The point is that
> Shigsy, although my second fav games maker ever (behind naka) hasn't
> done anything new recently.,, just look atb the gamnes u
> quoted:

Zelda: Sequal... it'll be the BEST GAME EVER no doubt...
> but still, just the old ideas

Starfox: Made by rare.. not
> shisy

Luigi's mansion: Now this is an addition of the ghosthouse
> levels in mario (SNES) but now in full 3D... it depenmds what
> options he adds in

Super smash brothers: Sequal

Animal forest:
> never heard of it... sorry!


Anyway, the topic was about your
> oppinions, and mine is that Kojima-san really is pushing the
> business in line with films

Sonic

He has made most of the greatest games for the Ninty and the GC and the GBA, and anyway he helped a bit with StarFox!
It was his idea to put Fox mcloud in it and the gang, well thats what I read anywhoo!
Thu 14/06/01 at 14:09
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Right okay dokey, me thinks that there is a slight difference in what I meant and what I said. Konami and Nintendo are two of the biggest players in the video game industry, but Shigsy has input into the making of console and is therefore a much more widely know figure, no one knows what Kojima was up to before he made it big at Konami, although I do agree Shigsy has done more over a sustained period of time!!
Thu 14/06/01 at 12:36
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Smash Brothers not made by Shigsy it's HAL!
Animal Forest not sequel.... Metroid not made by him but not sequel...
Thu 14/06/01 at 12:33
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Bonus wrote:
> Wait a minute here, Shigsy has done more for Nintendo than anyone
> else. Hideo has done more for Konami than anyone else.

Do you
> see a slight difference between Konami and Ninty??

Oh yeah Ninty
> make consoles, damn it I wonder how he has anaged to do more, by
> making all of these games single handedly with one hand tied behind
> his back, juggling three balls and with some ninty die hard's head
> up his......


ONE HUGE MISTAKE...

Ok, Shigsy had alot of inpuit into the GC.. esp the controller... but did he make the dev kits, hardware specs etc.. no

KOJIMA-SAN had to make his own dev kits for MGS2... granted its not like a one man operation, but he specifies how he wanted them to work, and designed them with his team...

So, the fact these men have other thoughts on their mind is irrelavent

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Thu 14/06/01 at 12:30
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zeldapro wrote:
> Sigeru Myamoto I dont know if you have yet but look at his new games
> for the GameCube, like Animal Forest, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda,
> StarFox Adventures: Dino Planet, Super Smash Bros Melee etc.

did u miss my point??? The point is that Shigsy, although my second fav games maker ever (behind naka) hasn't done anything new recently.,, just look atb the gamnes u quoted:

Zelda: Sequal... it'll be the BEST GAME EVER no doubt... but still, just the old ideas

Starfox: Made by rare.. not shisy

Luigi's mansion: Now this is an addition of the ghosthouse levels in mario (SNES) but now in full 3D... it depenmds what options he adds in

Super smash brothers: Sequal

Animal forest: never heard of it... sorry!


Anyway, the topic was about your oppinions, and mine is that Kojima-san really is pushing the business in line with films

Sonic
Thu 14/06/01 at 10:33
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Wait a minute here, Shigsy has done more for Nintendo than anyone else. Hideo has done more for Konami than anyone else.

Do you see a slight difference between Konami and Ninty??

Oh yeah Ninty make consoles, damn it I wonder how he has anaged to do more, by making all of these games single handedly with one hand tied behind his back, juggling three balls and with some ninty die hard's head up his......
Thu 14/06/01 at 08:45
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Shigeru Miyamoto jumps into the ring and lays the Smackdown on Hideo Kojima!

:-)
Thu 14/06/01 at 08:39
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Sigeru Myamoto I dont know if you have yet but look at his new games for the GameCube, like Animal Forest, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda, StarFox Adventures: Dino Planet, Super Smash Bros Melee etc.

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