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"Forza Motorsport - GT beater?"

It's looking good, and with an early 2005 release I will almost certainly snap this one up. The screenshots look gorgeous, but will it beat the mighty GT?

Only time will tell...

After reading about this game, I suddenly developed a passion for racing games (Sad I know)

I've been playing PGR2 again for the last week, I am getting Burnout 3 and I want Juiced, NFS: Underground 2 and Forza.

All these racing games will not be good for my health, but who gives a damn? You only get one shot at life, so make the most of it.

I will be getting Forza, because it 'vill rock. :)

Which is why the faster cars worked and the others didn't, purely because there wasn't a challenge with the slower cars which made it dull to play.

Part of the thing with MSR/PGR was that it was "not about how fast you drive, but how you drive fast". It was about getting kudos, about fancy driving, not fast laps. That's what set it apart from every other arcade racer.

But they could have just copied the formula from PGR, you didn't jump straight in there with the F50, you had to earn it.

I don't want to be forced to race in a bog standard day to day car or do a cone challenge in something a local farmer would drive. I want fast cars and GT allows you to mod to stupid speeds.

If they allowed any car on any track then everybody would just have gone straight for the Enzos on every track. But by limiting you to a category it meant that you had to work a bit for it. Just like you had to work a bit in GT to get enough money to get a good car.

Each to their own I suppose. I just found PGR2 a much more fun and engrossing game than the GT series has been.

It's dull because there is no incentive to continue playing. With the GT games you race to win money to completely overhaul a car to your specs. This year they have made an already massive mode even bigger. That is what makes GT games special and the modding sections aren't even scraped in NFSU, not even close.

If PGR2 allowed you to race any car in any race it may be a different matter. 90% of PGR2 was just dull to play.

PGR2 IS MSR, but with Enzos and Live play.

The only incentive to keep playing Gran Turismo was to see who could build a car with the most horse power. It also had dull tracks from memory. Fun for a while, but after the millionth samey race for Toyota Corolla, it just began to grate somewhat. I had zero interest in replaying it when a memory card died on me. I just moved on to the second one at that point.

PGR2 dull? I still don't understand this one. It has masses of cars, around 120 with the download packs, over all sorts of categories. It has everything from Ascaris to Zondas with Dodge Rams, Volvos and BMWs in between. That coupled with a huge range of tracks from real life places and it has an infinite life span. It looks better and handles better than everything else around. Sure, I can't customise things, but if I wanted to do that I'd just buy NFS:U.

Burnout 3? Fun, but so far from perfection it's unbelievable. It obviously was allowed to be released without testing.

Doesn't matter who you play with providing the game is good enough, PC online wouldn't be so popular if you had to play people you knew all the time.

I've played GT 1 and 2 through loads of times.

IMO PGR2 is on par with those two games, but PGR has the online mode as well, so thats a big advantage. I think you have just played with the wrong people online. I've clocked over 100 hours on Live, and loved every mintue, wether it be a serious race and just pr*tting around in mini's.

But there is one game that surpasses them all (no not Out Run) and that MSR, whay a blummin game!

Cyclone wrote:
> Not bothered. At all.

Hush Sam.