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Thu 08/09/05 at 18:52
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[URL]http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/172/172859_soccer_club_fined_90000_over_death.html[/URL]

What isn't mentioned is that the boy was 14 years old. What the hell was a 14 year old doing riding a 125cc motorbike anywhere?, let alone a private car park while being watched by his parents. Open and shut case in my opinion - he was riding illegally on a bike too big for him and was riding it recklessly.

Oh but the chain was difficult to see, ah, then he's clearly blameless, and his parents shouldn't be strung up for allowing their boy to endanger himself and others in a public place.

It makes me sick. Then I see illiterate teenage mothers on the telly harping on about how it's a 'des-grays' that they don't get free hand outs, just because they can't keep their pikey legs closed for more than five minutes.

Also in the paper earlier this week - woman sues a funeral directors for suffering 'trauma' from dealing with dead bodies for 20 years. I'll run that by you again - twenty (20) years. Wouldn't you think that after say, ooooooh, 6 months, you might think "hmmmm, don't think this is for me" ... ? Nope, she obviously thought "This is horrible, I just don't think I can carry on. I'll carry on for another 19 years or so though, just to make sure."

Such claims should be a crime. A punishable, fine-able crime. Mister and Missus Tax Payer happily pay into the system, completely oblivious to the fact that (and this is also 100% true), a man who had a sex change has sued the health service because he had faulty advice. He claims that doctors should have talked him out of it.

That's fair enough though isn't it? The poor fella/woman/parasite, bless ...

Ah, the sweet sensation of boiling blood ...
Fri 09/09/05 at 23:55
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Putting a chain up where people will be driving and keeping it there after a warning is asking for trouble.
Fri 09/09/05 at 23:54
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But the club had been warned on previous occasions about the chain and did nothing about it - it was an accident waiting to happen.
Fri 09/09/05 at 23:50
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No. What people seem to have completely forgotten in our society is 'accidents happen'. There does not always have to be someone at fault, but we are led to believe this with our ridiculous 'where there's blame there's a claim' culture.

And thanks to huge grey areas in law, ambulance chasing money slaves are free to sue whoever they feel like.

"I fell over a piece of wood that shouldn't have been there!"

People have GOT to start taking responsibility for their own actions.
Fri 09/09/05 at 23:43
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Let's say it was a farmer then.
He's doing something in another farmers field in his tractor (which he doesn't need to be licensed to drive in fields, even though they may have been driving it for 20 years) as a favour and hits a rock which pierces and ignites the flame tank killing him.

Should his family get compensation off of the farmer whose field he was working in?
Fri 09/09/05 at 23:34
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Black Glove wrote:
> You're way too harsh on the dead kid, Borat. You sound like a grumpy
> old codger who has forgotten what it's like to be young.

Maybe so, but it's not the dead boy that I'm getting at, it's the automatic knee-jerk reaction of funds transfer.

Why .... Why do that boys parents deserve £90,000??

If anything they should be fined. Private property or no private property, our laws are there to promote safety (for the most part). If this lad decides to sidestep the law and take risks with his life, that's his decision, but others should not be forced to pay for his stupidity.
Fri 09/09/05 at 21:20
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RoJ wrote:
> The kid looked like he deserved to die anyway. One less tool in the
> world, but I think £90,000 is unfair. They should make the
> parents provide a new chain instead, one that isn't covered in idiot
> blood.

Yeah, you're a cockhead.
Fri 09/09/05 at 19:20
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Chain is a typo, it's an evil chin.
Fri 09/09/05 at 13:22
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I still can't picture this 'evil chain'
Fri 09/09/05 at 13:07
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Although the last two items you mentioned are 'laughable', the case of the dead boy is rather nasty.

I don't think 90K is a lot to pay out at all. It may well be that the parents drove a car and trailer onto the access road where the kid climbed onto his bike and then drove into the chain.

What you didn't highlight in your post, but is mentioned if you follow the link, is that Bolton had been warned previously about this chain due to complaints from a motorist and another motorcylist.

After spending £425K on safety features you'd think that, after the second complaint, some of that would have gone to putting a gate up there instead of the chain.
Fri 09/09/05 at 12:49
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You're way too harsh on the dead kid, Borat. You sound like a grumpy old codger who has forgotten what it's like to be young.

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