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[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4697461.stm[/URL]
Ahahahahaha.
I laugh but it really isn't funny, it's pathetic. I can 100% guarantee that this will make no improvements to the quality of peoples' desire to learn, if anything these people would believe that they are completely immune to failure and so will do even less work. People that continually fail have no desire to learn and revise and so there's little point in these new, and useless methods.
How about we try concentrating on those that do well, giving us a nation with some geniuses and a few retards, rather than what looks like will happen where there'll be some average and some thick. People that don't work now are more likely to begin to work if all the attention is put on those that already work. Or something...
Ahahahahaha.
I laugh but it really isn't funny, it's pathetic. I can 100% guarantee that this will make no improvements to the quality of peoples' desire to learn, if anything these people would believe that they are completely immune to failure and so will do even less work. People that continually fail have no desire to learn and revise and so there's little point in these new, and useless methods.
How about we try concentrating on those that do well, giving us a nation with some geniuses and a few retards, rather than what looks like will happen where there'll be some average and some thick. People that don't work now are more likely to begin to work if all the attention is put on those that already work. Or something...
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[URL]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fail[/URL]
1. To prove deficient or lacking; perform ineffectively or inadequately.
2. To be unsuccessful: an experiment that failed.
3. To receive an academic grade below the acceptable minimum.
Failure sounds like the right word for somebody that doesn't get the required marks in an exam. Fair enough, they may have skills in ather areas, but that doesn't take away the fact that they fail exams.
1. To prove deficient or lacking; perform ineffectively or inadequately.
2. To be unsuccessful: an experiment that failed.
3. To receive an academic grade below the acceptable minimum.
Failure sounds like the right word for somebody that doesn't get the required marks in an exam. Fair enough, they may have skills in ather areas, but that doesn't take away the fact that they fail exams.
I don't really see such thing as "failure" either.
If someone doesn't do well at school then they're not cut out for this whole learning thing. There's probably something they do better than anyone else that they do otherwise, or something they can do...
If someone doesn't do well at school then they're not cut out for this whole learning thing. There's probably something they do better than anyone else that they do otherwise, or something they can do...
Mouldy Cheese wrote:
> Rasta said:
>
> "Anyone else feeling this is uncomfortably similar to
> Newspeak?"
>
> I expect better from you Mr Billyskank! Words are always being gotten
> rid of in certain areas, such as 'darkie', because it is useful to get
> rid of them. The comparison to 1984 is completely over the top because
> in the novel words are destroyed COMPLETELY, not just in the area of
> education. I don't think it's uncomfortably similar to newspeak at
> all.
Alright fair point, it's an over the top comparison but the point beneath it is still valid. The word failure is being removed to remove the concept of a child failing. Orwellian overtones or not, that is still something that makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable.
> Rasta said:
>
> "Anyone else feeling this is uncomfortably similar to
> Newspeak?"
>
> I expect better from you Mr Billyskank! Words are always being gotten
> rid of in certain areas, such as 'darkie', because it is useful to get
> rid of them. The comparison to 1984 is completely over the top because
> in the novel words are destroyed COMPLETELY, not just in the area of
> education. I don't think it's uncomfortably similar to newspeak at
> all.
Alright fair point, it's an over the top comparison but the point beneath it is still valid. The word failure is being removed to remove the concept of a child failing. Orwellian overtones or not, that is still something that makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable.
Nah, i think the cliche would kill the movie even worse.
It would completely destroy death scenes in films and RPG's.
"Master, I'm sorry, I have deferred my success for you *die*"
Yeah, cos they're going to succeed now that they've died.
:(
"Master, I'm sorry, I have deferred my success for you *die*"
Yeah, cos they're going to succeed now that they've died.
:(
I'm King of The World (deferred success)
I have PhDs in Maths, English, Physics, Biology and History (deferred success). I'm also a concert-quality classical pianist (deferred).
Mouldy Cheese wrote:
> I expect better from you Mr Billyskank! Words are always being gotten
> rid of in certain areas, such as 'darkie', because it is useful to get
> rid of them. The comparison to 1984 is completely over the top because
> in the novel words are destroyed COMPLETELY, not just in the area of
> education. I don't think it's uncomfortably similar to newspeak at
> all.
I do. I think the point is that the reason behind Newspeak is that it is designed to make it impossible to say (and eventually, think) anything negative about Big Brother. In the same way, political correctness is making it harder and harder to say anything negative about anything. While this is a simplification of the argument, I think the comparison is valid.
> I expect better from you Mr Billyskank! Words are always being gotten
> rid of in certain areas, such as 'darkie', because it is useful to get
> rid of them. The comparison to 1984 is completely over the top because
> in the novel words are destroyed COMPLETELY, not just in the area of
> education. I don't think it's uncomfortably similar to newspeak at
> all.
I do. I think the point is that the reason behind Newspeak is that it is designed to make it impossible to say (and eventually, think) anything negative about Big Brother. In the same way, political correctness is making it harder and harder to say anything negative about anything. While this is a simplification of the argument, I think the comparison is valid.
"You have deferred your success in this subject until you die"
I disagree with everybody else. Words have connotations. The word 'failiure' implies that somebody will be a failiure forever (or at least that is my interpretation of the language).
'Deferred success' is a stupid combination of words, but the article says 'the concept of' deferred success, which is completely different and something which I agree with (up to a certain age). Definately a good idea for primary school, not sure about much higher.
Rasta said:
"Anyone else feeling this is uncomfortably similar to Newspeak?"
I expect better from you Mr Billyskank! Words are always being gotten rid of in certain areas, such as 'darkie', because it is useful to get rid of them. The comparison to 1984 is completely over the top because in the novel words are destroyed COMPLETELY, not just in the area of education. I don't think it's uncomfortably similar to newspeak at all.
'Deferred success' is a stupid combination of words, but the article says 'the concept of' deferred success, which is completely different and something which I agree with (up to a certain age). Definately a good idea for primary school, not sure about much higher.
Rasta said:
"Anyone else feeling this is uncomfortably similar to Newspeak?"
I expect better from you Mr Billyskank! Words are always being gotten rid of in certain areas, such as 'darkie', because it is useful to get rid of them. The comparison to 1984 is completely over the top because in the novel words are destroyed COMPLETELY, not just in the area of education. I don't think it's uncomfortably similar to newspeak at all.
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