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"Underground Closed"

Just watching the news, and the whole of the london underground has been shut due to an series of explosions.

A bus has also exploded in london.

Blimey, this is going to take a while to sort through and present in an acceptable layout... give me a few minutes, chap.

Goatboy wrote:
> Game wrote:
> You don't know half of what goes on inside the Houses of Parliment,
> behind closed doors. You don't what type of extremist people are in
> the counrty, their past, their intentions. I don't either. You, like
> me and millions of others, have a skin-deep knowledge of the
> intricacies of how things are run.
>
> I will say that I have a better working knowledge of government and
> their actions around the world than you do.
> There is a world of difference discussing how I percieve the actions
> of our governments, using supporting links to outside websites, and
> coming up with racist bilge like "Britain was at its strongest
> when we hung people, had a great army and ruled from the throne with
> integrity"
>
>
> Such as you've formed an opinion based on what you've read and what
> other people think. I don't have the ability to print-screen and
> link
> to pages you've seen because I don't know.
>
> Well that kind of blows your argument out of the water now doesn't
> it?
> "I can't...because I don't know" - so where exactly have
> you got the opinion that I form my ideas from internet blogs and
> friends then?
> Ah yes, "I don't know"
>
> >But it's clear to me that
> your opinion is a melding of political correctness and the status
> quo
> mindset of the younger generation.
>
> "Status quo mindset of the younger generation"
> Really? Because me and my teen mates hang around parks shouting about
> Bush is that it? Or possibly because...I don't know...I sit around at
> college and spout stuff I heard in politics the other day?
> I would say that my opinion is far from political correctness. If you
> cast your mind back 3 years to the build-up to the Iraq invasion,
> there was myself and a couple of others going against the PC version
> of events, much to the declemation of these forums and others.
>
>
> In the way that you continually criticise Bush and Blair when you
> have about .05% knowledge of what is going on around the world. If
> you were to run the country, I fear we'd be in a far worse state
> than
> we are now.
>
> And why do you feel the country would be in a far worse state?
> It's no good just issuing blanket statements with "I don't
> know" caveats on, you need to explain why you think these
> things.
> Yes I continually criticise Bush & Blair, because their actions
> and consquences have done, and continue to, harm the planet.
> Should I not speak out when I feel the leaders we elect to fulfill
> our desires act as demagogues? Should I blindly agree to policies and
> actions that I feel are wrong, simply because I am not a member of
> government?
>
>
> You have your opinions, friend.. and not once, before today, have I
> criticised you for them. But to criticise me and my opinions of
> fact,
> when they're supported as well they are, is stupid.
>
> "Me and my opinions of fact when they're supported as well they
> are"
> Quite apart from the grammatical mangling of that sentence, everybody
> here jumped on you for idiot statements such as, I repeat
> "Britain was at its strongest when we hung people, had a great
> army and ruled from the throne with integrity" and "If
> there isn't a civil war between English people and these Muslims in
> the next 5 years, i'll be quite suprised."
>
> It's hardly Newsnight level of intellect is it now?
> And you have, yet again, avoided the points I raised in my previous
> post.
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This one.
But you'll avoid it

Not sure what to make about this topic. Personally I have mixed feelings on the London situation. In some ways I'm relieved that things haven't been worse - other countries have been hit so much harder in the past with far more fatalities. Having said that, it doesn't make today's events any more pleasant.


[Edit: Reports are getting worse though as more information is gathered and things get officially confirmed. I just hope the numbers don't keep climbing, its awful enough already]


I also hope that Goatboy and Game can put this argument behind them when emotions aren't at a peak - I've read many interesting discussions involving both of them.

...... right...

What about the rest of your diatribe?
And my response to your last post?
And your response to the original accusation and, so far, avoidance of discussing the issue?

Game wrote:

> ... the Madrid bombings point to Al Qaeda; which you, Goatboy, in another topic, accepted were probably responsible.


That sentance wasn't clear.

I should point out that Goatboy didn't accept Al Qaeda were responsible for the London bombings, but rather the Madrid bombings after Thpi's comments that it wasn't the other organisations style. That sentance wasn't clear.

My apologies for the confusion.

small_brown_todger53 wrote:
> Bloody London making me miss Diagnosis Murder two days in a row.
> Unacceptable.
>
> And the whole of last week as well!
> Who do they think they are?

People who have the Hallmark channel.

Bloody London making me miss Diagnosis Murder two days in a row.
Unacceptable.

And the whole of last week as well!
Who do they think they are?

Construe that how you will, but it isn't racist.

You can play the race-hate card as much as you want, mate - it doesn't bother me.

If it were Americans, seperatist English people, Egyptians, Irish, Pakistani or Canadians i'd say the same thing. The particulars of this attack and the fact it is so very a like to the Madrid bombings point to Al Qaeda; which you, Goatboy, in another topic, accepted were probably responsible.

You can brand me a racist all you want, I don't care. I'm not a racist, and I know that.

"It's time to share... or to shaft"