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"OMFFFFG -Watch your mouth (serious)"

This is it. This is the day we've all feared:

[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4629399.stm[/URL]

So that's all folks, SR's servers could be shut down and confiscated if the authorities see fit, and a gagging order can be imposed (See the 2004 case) so we'd never find out why. Unbelievable.

"Ha. What a joke."


-Applies to the entirety of this thread-

Hedfix wrote:
> Well I don't know much about it, but isn't that what happened with
> the poll tax? People simply refused to acknowledge it and it withered
> and died.
>
> Didn't it?
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It took mass refusals to pay from little old ladies to 17yr olds at college protesting.
A bunch of us went on the march which was fine at first until riot police waded in when we sat down outside Downing Street and, without provocation, started steaming in with horses and batons.
It ended up with possibly the only riot I've ever seen in Central London, and it wasn't just the usual suspects who take over peaceful protest and, thanks to their tiny minority, rob the event of legitimacy.
It was hundreds of people. Some trying to get away and home and some attacking the police, who were in turn wading in and battering anybody within range.

And, in the end, the poll tax was abolished.
So we/you do have that power ultimately, nothing is set in stone if the public feels angry enough about it.
Which left me somewhat torn during the anti-war march.
Whilst I was hugely and pleasantly surprised to see nearly a million people marching with few arrests and a peaceful demonstration - there was a part of me that wanted to see that crowd turn and march on Downing Street, tear it to rubble and refuse to be good citizens obeying a government that, knowingly or otherwise, lied to build a case for war.

This ID card system, as with the phoney Iraq invasion, doesn't need well paid experts to see the flaws. They are so glaringly obvious that Joe Public can point and say "That's not correct, we're not being told everything and it's plain as day"

Oh dear I appear to have scraped the chip on the zip of my wallet which has ended up ruining it.

Ho hum...

[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4632299.stm[/URL]

I hope they need to pay for one too.

*Some quick research later*

Ok, they did acknowledge it but with protests against it and violence.

Now they want people to pay £300 for an ID Card that they don't want and that allows for some dangerous 'curbing of freedoms'...

monkey_man wrote:
> Takes one to know one.

Touché, pussycat.

Black Glove wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> People will refuse to accept it and it will collapse.
>
> I wish I could believe that.

Well I don't know much about it, but isn't that what happened with the poll tax? People simply refused to acknowledge it and it withered and died.

Didn't it?

*Waits for more informed person*

Reminds me of that episode of Doctor Who (The Long Game, I think it's called- that one on satellite 5), in which the Doctor and Rose are 'nobody'.

Less than 50 minutes until vote time.

No, let's not start a countdown.

I think they've given up the whole 'for your protection!' idea now, after everyone nicely pointed out that giving everyone a piece of plastic is not going to stop these non-existant terrorists from raping our children, and that knowing where everyone who should be here is, does not tell you where everyone who shouldn't be here is as well.

We want to protect you, and the people of this world..... so yeah, we'll keep tabs on you. Let's help Africa too! Oh, hello Mugabe! Ah...