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"What's the best console out at present and what is going to be the best next generation console?"

Playstation is not as good as N64. No way. I hate the playstation and i'm not just saying that because I own an N64 because I also own a Dreamcast and N64 is a lot better than that as well (dreamcast is still better than playstation though). In my opinion N64 is the best console out at the moment and although a lot of the games are kiddy they are still great games (mario, banjo-kazzoie/tooie for example). There are loads of non kiddy games as well though like goldeneye, perfect dark and shadowman. Although I say that N64 is the best console out at present I have never played a PS2 although to be honest I don't think it looks that great and again, I'm not just saying that. I do think it will become a great console in the future with class games such as Metal Gear Solid 2 and Gran Turismo 3 coming out but there really aren't enough games out at the moment to make it the best console and for 300 quid it's also too expensive. Anyway by the time MGS2 and GT3 are out the Gamecube will probably be out as well and and no matter how much people say PS2 will be better, I say - NO CHANCE!!! Just wait for Perfect Dark Zero, Wave Race:Blue Storm, Metroid, and Rogue Squadron 2. You may say that they are just sequels to old games but so are MGS 2 and GT3. Anyway they are sequels to already great games. However, I have one doubt about PD Zero and that is that I have no idea how you improve on PERFECTion. Hold on a minute, I thought that about Goldeneye and then Perfect Dark came out. Oh well , I know I can trust rare to come up with something absolutely amazing. Just think of online play with PD Zero.
Anyway, having a dreamcast as well I can also say that it is nowhere near as good as N64. It isn't bad. There are SOME really great games but there just isn't enough of them. Soul Calibur, Shenmue and MSR are the best but i've played all of those to death (with the exception of soul calibur because that just never gets boring). None of the games last as long as the great N64 games (again with the exception of soul calibur).

On the topic of next generation consoles I think that X-Box will just be a PC hooked up to a TV so I'm not going to be getting that. However, having said that, the PC does have some really great games but again, having said that, I already have a PC so why would I want another. In my opinion though it will still sell by the millions because it is made by microsoft, the definition of quality. The PS2 will also sell brilliantly (and already has) but only because of the success of the original playstation. I don't think it's all it's cracked up to be. Then we come to gamecube, the JESUS of them all. I don't think it will sell the most though. In fact I probably think both PS2 and X-Box will outsell it because whenever anybody thinks of Nintendo they immediately think of kiddies games. This is a shame because I think Nintendo and Rare (who only develop for nintendo machines) provide the best and most enjoyable video games around. I know which console I'm getting. I can't wait.

At the moment however I am stuck with Dreamcast. I can't wait for Shenmue 2. Crazy Taxi 2 and Ecco the dolphin 2 will also be pretty good but these games (with the exception of Shenmue 2) will only be diversions to keep me happy while I await the greatness of Perfect Dark Zero and Rogue Squadron 2.

ssxpro wrote:
I
> just can`t handle the stupidity of them, and the fact they`ve all
> been discussed before.

The thing is I have not been here very long have I?

You asked for it: This is a list
> of PS2 games without numbers:

Advance Goemon(nintendo character)
Airblade
Aliens:
> Colonial Marines
All Star Pro Wrestling
Angel's Present - Marle
> Kingdom Story
Atelier Lillie
ATV Offroad Fury
Baldur's Gate: Dark(conversion of a pC game)
> Alliance
Batman Vengeance (batman? Need I say more)
Big Wave Surfing(does anyone actually like surfing)
Black & White(pc game)
>
Blood: The Last Vampire
Buchigire Kongou
C.A.R.T. Fury
Cash
> on Delivery
Choro Q HG
Circus Maximus
Crazy Taxi(dreamcast game)
Dark Angel
>
Dark Cloud
Dead to Rights
Devil May Cry
Disney's Dinosaur(disney game)
>
Disney's Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers
Drakan
Dream Audition
>
Driven
Driving Emotion Type-S
Dropship
DrumMania
Ephemeral
> Fantasia
Escape From Monkey Island(pc game)
ESPN International Track(been done before)
> &Field
ESPN MLS ExtraTime
ESPN National Hockey Night
ESPN
> Winter X Games
ESPN X Games Skateboarding(tony hawks clone)
Eternal Ring
>
Evergrace
Evil Twin: Cyprien's Chronicles
Evo Rally
>
Extermination
FantaVision(a fireworks game)
Ferrari Grand Prix
Forever Kingdom
>
Frequency
Fur Fighters: Viggo's Revenge (dreamcast conversion)
Fusion GT
G-Surfers
>
Gauntlet: Dark Legacy (old arcade game)
Giants: Citizen Kabuto
Gift
>
Gitaroo-Man
Ground Control
Gun Griffon Blaze
Gun Hearts
>
Gunslinger
Half-Life (pc game/dreamcast game)
Halo(pc game)
Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland(how dare you have Harvest moon)
>
Herdy Gerdy
Heroes of Might and Magic
ICO
IHRA Drag Racing
>
Ikuze! Onsen Takkyu
Jak and Daxter: The Precurso Legacy
>
Jurassic Park Survival (isn't jurrassic park a bit old)
Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer
Kengo: Master
> of Bushido
Kessen
Legion: Legend of Excalibur
Lotus Extreme
> Challenge
Love Story
Lunatic Dawn Tempest
Maken Shao
Max
> Payne
Maximo
Mechsmith Run=Dim
Medal of Honor Fighter
> Commander
Medal of Honor Frontline
Midnight Club: Street Racing(cr*p)
>
Mobile Suit Gundam: Journey to Jaburo
Mobile Suit Gundam: Zeonic(rubbish anime series)
> Front
Moderngroove: Ministry of Sound Edition
Moto GP
Motor
> Mayhem
NASCAR Heat
NBA Hoopz
NBA Street
Ninja Gaiden(snes game)
No One
> Lives Forever(pc game)
Nooks & Crannies
OKAGE: Shadow King
Oni(pc game)
>
Onimusha Warlords
Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
Ozzy's Black Skies
>
Para Para Paradise
Paris-Dakar Rally
Picassio (trust a playstation owner to want to steal things)
Pilot Academy
>
Pirates of Skull Cove
Portal Runner
Primal Image
Prisoner of
> War
Project Eden
PRYZM Chapter One: The Dark Unicorn
Q-Bal
> Billiards Master
RC Revenge Pro(sequel)
Real Pool
Red Faction(conversion)
Ring of
> Red
Robin Hood: Defender of theCrown(I dont know what to say for this one)
RoboCop(old film)
Rock'n MegaStage
>
Rubu Tribes
Rumble Racing
Run Like Hell
Saffire
Scandal
>
Seven - The Cavalry of Molmorth
Shadow Hearts
Shadow of Destiny
>
Shaun Palmer's Pro Snowboarder
Silent Scope(play it in the arcade)
Silpheed: The Lost
> Planet
Sky Gunner
Sky Odyssey
Sky Surfer
Smuggler's Run
>
Snowboard Heaven
Soldier of Fortune (pc game)
Spawn: In the Demon's Hand
>
Spin: Sprint Car Racing
Splashdown
Spy Hunter
SRC
SSX( at last a good game)
>
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force
Star Wars Racer Revenge
Star
> Wars: Starfighter
Star Wars: Super Bombad Racing (a karting game?)
State of
> Emergency
Stepping Selection
Stretch Panic
Stunt GP
Stuntman
>
Summoner
Super Bust-A-Move (play it on a gameboy)
Supercar Street Challenge
>
Surfroid
Swing Away Golf
Tecmo Bowl (bowling?)
Tekken Tag Tournament(get the japanese version/sequel)
>
Test Drive
Test Drive Off-Road -- Wide Open
The Adventures of
> Cookie and Cream
The Bouncer
The Dreamland Chronicles: Freedom
> Ridge
The Getaway
The Grid
The Legend of Alon D'ar
The Lost
>
The Mummy Returns
The World Is Not Enough(already been done on the N64 and ps1)
Theme Park Roller(not another theme park game)
> Coaster
This Is Football
Thunderbirds(what?)
Thunderstrike: Operation
> Phoenix
TimeSplitters (yawn)
Tiny Toon Adventures
Titanium Angels
>
Top Gear Dare Devil
Top Gun
Triple Play Baseball
Tsugunai
>
TVDJ
Twisted Metal: Black
Undying(pc game)
Unison
Unreal Tournament(pc game)
>
V.I.P.
Velvet File
Virtual Ocean
Walt Disney's The Jungle
> Book Rhythm N' Groove
Warriors of Might and Magic
Wave Rally
>
Wild Wild Racing
Winback(n64 conversion)
Wipeout Fusion
Wizardry
World
> Destruction League: Thunder Tanks
World Destruction League: War
> Jetz
WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It
X-Squad
Yanya Caballista
> Featuring Gawoo
Zombie Revenge
Zone of the Enders(too short)

I think I got my point taken the wrong way. I meant by no.s at the end of the games=Sequels/conversions. Most of these games have either been done before or have no pull factor at all.

How old did you say you were.

turbonutter wrote:
> ssxpro wrote:
> my own webiste and


URL?

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ma0pnt

Follow the gaming HQ links.

Damnit, I forgot Devil May Cry!

MJswerve wrote:
> The thing is every single one of the
> Ps2 games has a no. on the end of it not a few but nearly every
> single one of them.

What's wrong with numbers, anyway?

Meka_Dragon wrote:
> Seven - The Cavalry of
> Molmorth
Um, isn't Seven a number. ;-p
Meka_Dragon: Fighting
> against seriousness on the forums : )

At least yoy read as far as S :-)

Anyway, Doh.

ssxpro wrote:
> my own webiste and


URL?

The adventure of cookie and cream?!

Have you noticed, a lot of newbies these days come in, write a long and boring post usually about "Console Wars", stick around for a few days, then bog off when they realise that they haven't won?

Strange......

ssxpro wrote:

> You asked for it: This is a list
> of PS2 games without numbers:

> Seven - The Cavalry of Molmorth

Um, isn't Seven a number. ;-p

Meka_Dragon: Fighting against seriousness on the forums : )

turbonutter wrote:
> ssxpro, where did you get that list?

I spent that last half an hour finding it at IGN, my own webiste and DailyRadar.