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Wed 01/06/05 at 00:42
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Yup.
Wed 01/06/05 at 11:06
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Yeah, I think I prefer Johnson.

He can hold onto the ball better than Defoe, and he's got power as well as pace. He's also a very experienced penalty taker.

I thought he had a solid game against the USA and, had he have been partnered with Owen and not Smith, he'd have probably got one or two assists.

I'd feel more comfortable with him as a substitute than Smith, Crouch and Heskey. I'm a bit unsure about Defoe at the moment.
Wed 01/06/05 at 11:10
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Binks wrote:
> Defoe is far much better than Owen any day, so it doesn't count as a
> loss for England to have him playing instead of Owen

No doubts Defoe is good, but I can't believe Owen scores a hat-trick against a half-decent South American side (not exactly San Marino, are they) and people still put him down.

His scoring record for England argues itself.
Wed 01/06/05 at 11:55
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Lil Bro criticising a Spurs player and not proclaiming him to be better than God? What's going on, have i stepped into another universe?

*head explodes from confusion*
Wed 01/06/05 at 12:41
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It could be Colourless, couldn't it?
Wed 01/06/05 at 12:43
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Ant wrote:
> No doubts Defoe is good, but I can't believe Owen scores a hat-trick
> against a half-decent South American side (not exactly San Marino,
> are they) and people still put him down.
>
> His scoring record for England argues itself.

Problem is good goal scoreres fall into two categories, the ones who score the important goals and the ones who don't. Owen only seems to score goals when it doesn't matter, i.e. in friendlies and when matches are already won.
Wed 01/06/05 at 13:12
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Ashman wrote:
> It could be Colourless, couldn't it?

Aha. But no. Not this time.
Wed 01/06/05 at 13:16
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Cong_Man wrote:
> Owen only seems to
> score goals when it doesn't matter, i.e. in friendlies and when
> matches are already won.

Owens scored many important goals for Real Madrid this season.
Wed 01/06/05 at 13:35
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Was mostly referring to his international career...
Wed 01/06/05 at 13:41
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Cong_Man wrote:

Owen only seems to score goals when it doesn't matter, i.e. in friendlies and when matches are already won.
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Brazil last World Cup.

Portugal last Euro's.

Other tournament's before that.

Do you expect him to score winning goals in every single match?
Wed 01/06/05 at 14:26
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Owen is better than Defoe tbh. Owen and Rooney should be the first choice with Defoe being the 3rd man.

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