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If you don't vote, then you can't really complain when promises are inevitably broken.
If you don't vote you can't swear whenever they come on the TV or radio.
If you don't vote you're saying they can do what the heck they like.
Whilst it may seem entirely futile, if you don't vote you haven't even tried to do anything about it.
This morning I figured that the Government is a little like Top Cat. They'll place a shiny coin in your hand, and tell you how great they are, but just before your fingers close around it they'll snatch it away with that little bit of string attached to it that you never noticed.
Mind you, when the choice is between a smug, lying, patronising sycophant, a man that looks like a particularly greasy sexual pervert, and a ginger, alcoholic gnone (and face facts, ginger is an issue, that's why Labour never got in under Kinnock), then I can see why you'd be tempted not to...
If you don't vote, then you can't really complain when promises are inevitably broken.
If you don't vote you can't swear whenever they come on the TV or radio.
If you don't vote you're saying they can do what the heck they like.
Whilst it may seem entirely futile, if you don't vote you haven't even tried to do anything about it.
This morning I figured that the Government is a little like Top Cat. They'll place a shiny coin in your hand, and tell you how great they are, but just before your fingers close around it they'll snatch it away with that little bit of string attached to it that you never noticed.
Mind you, when the choice is between a smug, lying, patronising sycophant, a man that looks like a particularly greasy sexual pervert, and a ginger, alcoholic gnone (and face facts, ginger is an issue, that's why Labour never got in under Kinnock), then I can see why you'd be tempted not to...
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munn wrote:
> But all he said to warrant Light's reply was "I can't vote for
> any of them"
>
> He didn't say he thought it was pointless until later.
After also having said he'd spoil his paper if they were counted. He backtracked after finding that they did count.
>
>
> And spoiling the paper doesn't really do anything.
> It may say "I don't like the choice I'm given", but, rather
> than just saying I don't like them, they should, as you said, do
> something about it.
Actually, I believe it does do something; if the 40% of the voting public who didn't bother to vote turned up and spoiled the paper, then the message is "We are willing and ready to vote, but not one of you represent what we want". You'd very rapidly (in my opinion) see some changes in the major parties and how they approach the public.
> But all he said to warrant Light's reply was "I can't vote for
> any of them"
>
> He didn't say he thought it was pointless until later.
After also having said he'd spoil his paper if they were counted. He backtracked after finding that they did count.
>
>
> And spoiling the paper doesn't really do anything.
> It may say "I don't like the choice I'm given", but, rather
> than just saying I don't like them, they should, as you said, do
> something about it.
Actually, I believe it does do something; if the 40% of the voting public who didn't bother to vote turned up and spoiled the paper, then the message is "We are willing and ready to vote, but not one of you represent what we want". You'd very rapidly (in my opinion) see some changes in the major parties and how they approach the public.
gerrid wrote:
> Light's problem is with the fact that he sees voting as pointless, and
> a "personal ritual", rather than something important that we
> all should do.
Erm...I'm assuming you meant Mumbai?
> Light's problem is with the fact that he sees voting as pointless, and
> a "personal ritual", rather than something important that we
> all should do.
Erm...I'm assuming you meant Mumbai?
gerrid wrote:
> Light's problem is with the fact that he sees voting as pointless, and
> a "personal ritual", rather than something important that we
> all should do.
I mean pointless in that is has no effect.
The 'personal ritual' description was meant to show that since the vote didn't change things, it was only symbolic.
I think my choice of words may have riled light a little further. *Shrugs* There's only so much you can do to stop people implying whatever they want onto what you write. Look at any religious text...
> Light's problem is with the fact that he sees voting as pointless, and
> a "personal ritual", rather than something important that we
> all should do.
I mean pointless in that is has no effect.
The 'personal ritual' description was meant to show that since the vote didn't change things, it was only symbolic.
I think my choice of words may have riled light a little further. *Shrugs* There's only so much you can do to stop people implying whatever they want onto what you write. Look at any religious text...
gerrid wrote:
> I've said it before and I'll say it again (now that is starting to get
> a bit repetetive).
Heh, you're telling me :^)
> a) If you really want to make a difference, what is stopping you from
> going out and canvassing for a party that you believe in, trying to
> get other people to vote so that what you want happens, and therefore
> making a difference. You are complaining that you can't make a
> difference, but you don't even try, you don't even think about
> trying, you just sit there and complain that you can't make a
> difference. If everyone was like you nothing would get done and the
> world would come to a standstill. Do you not see how self centred you
> sound when you say "I won't make a difference so I
> won't bother to do anything and I'll let everyone else do it as they
> can make a difference"? The answer is incredibly, and it's no
> surprise you get attacked
I was trying to talk specifically in the context of voting.
As opposed to general indifference and lazyness.
As I see it, it's a simple logical truth that bar a freak occurence of epic proportions, there's simple no way that one person's single vote (not getting into the group thing again, please!)
> b)The Lib Dem policy was to pull troops out of Iraq by the end of the
> year if they deemed it safe to do so. By no means was it a hard and
> fast December 31st return of every soldier in Iraq no matter what, as
> you seem to think. Their policy was just being more active in removing
> our troops from the country so that it can begin to govern itself and
> grow as a democratic country.
Hmm, if that's so then Kennedy misrepresented the policy in his pre-election tv time. He definitely made it out to be more solid than that, committing to pull out, come what may.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again (now that is starting to get
> a bit repetetive).
Heh, you're telling me :^)
> a) If you really want to make a difference, what is stopping you from
> going out and canvassing for a party that you believe in, trying to
> get other people to vote so that what you want happens, and therefore
> making a difference. You are complaining that you can't make a
> difference, but you don't even try, you don't even think about
> trying, you just sit there and complain that you can't make a
> difference. If everyone was like you nothing would get done and the
> world would come to a standstill. Do you not see how self centred you
> sound when you say "I won't make a difference so I
> won't bother to do anything and I'll let everyone else do it as they
> can make a difference"? The answer is incredibly, and it's no
> surprise you get attacked
I was trying to talk specifically in the context of voting.
As opposed to general indifference and lazyness.
As I see it, it's a simple logical truth that bar a freak occurence of epic proportions, there's simple no way that one person's single vote (not getting into the group thing again, please!)
> b)The Lib Dem policy was to pull troops out of Iraq by the end of the
> year if they deemed it safe to do so. By no means was it a hard and
> fast December 31st return of every soldier in Iraq no matter what, as
> you seem to think. Their policy was just being more active in removing
> our troops from the country so that it can begin to govern itself and
> grow as a democratic country.
Hmm, if that's so then Kennedy misrepresented the policy in his pre-election tv time. He definitely made it out to be more solid than that, committing to pull out, come what may.
Hmmmm across and along?
They're going to think it was something religious.
They're going to think it was something religious.
Really?
Damn, now I've just made a mess.
Give me a minute, and I'll try again.
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Damn, now I've just made a mess.
Give me a minute, and I'll try again.
...
..
.
Along the vein and not across.
*slashes wrists*
Damn.
I clicked with the intention of doing that joke.
I clicked with the intention of doing that joke.
I took Meka's advice and voted today.
There was loads of people at the polling station at the school - have they dropped the voting age to 10 or something? There were kids everywhere. And then I got a personal police escort off the site - that's customer service for you.
There was loads of people at the polling station at the school - have they dropped the voting age to 10 or something? There were kids everywhere. And then I got a personal police escort off the site - that's customer service for you.
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