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If you don't vote, then you can't really complain when promises are inevitably broken.
If you don't vote you can't swear whenever they come on the TV or radio.
If you don't vote you're saying they can do what the heck they like.
Whilst it may seem entirely futile, if you don't vote you haven't even tried to do anything about it.
This morning I figured that the Government is a little like Top Cat. They'll place a shiny coin in your hand, and tell you how great they are, but just before your fingers close around it they'll snatch it away with that little bit of string attached to it that you never noticed.
Mind you, when the choice is between a smug, lying, patronising sycophant, a man that looks like a particularly greasy sexual pervert, and a ginger, alcoholic gnone (and face facts, ginger is an issue, that's why Labour never got in under Kinnock), then I can see why you'd be tempted not to...
If you don't vote, then you can't really complain when promises are inevitably broken.
If you don't vote you can't swear whenever they come on the TV or radio.
If you don't vote you're saying they can do what the heck they like.
Whilst it may seem entirely futile, if you don't vote you haven't even tried to do anything about it.
This morning I figured that the Government is a little like Top Cat. They'll place a shiny coin in your hand, and tell you how great they are, but just before your fingers close around it they'll snatch it away with that little bit of string attached to it that you never noticed.
Mind you, when the choice is between a smug, lying, patronising sycophant, a man that looks like a particularly greasy sexual pervert, and a ginger, alcoholic gnone (and face facts, ginger is an issue, that's why Labour never got in under Kinnock), then I can see why you'd be tempted not to...
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Blank wrote:
> Stuff
Nope, you have even less right to complain about it. You made absolutely no effort to change the government, no effort to register your dissatisfaction, no effort to engage in the one and only method we the public actually have of making some sort of difference to the political landscape. If every one of the 40% of the voting public who came up with reasons to kid themselves that voting doesn't matter HAD actually voted, then we would have had a wildy different result to the one we got.
If a person can't even make the token effort to engage the political process, then why should the political process make any effort to sort out their concerns?
> Stuff
Nope, you have even less right to complain about it. You made absolutely no effort to change the government, no effort to register your dissatisfaction, no effort to engage in the one and only method we the public actually have of making some sort of difference to the political landscape. If every one of the 40% of the voting public who came up with reasons to kid themselves that voting doesn't matter HAD actually voted, then we would have had a wildy different result to the one we got.
If a person can't even make the token effort to engage the political process, then why should the political process make any effort to sort out their concerns?
kevstar wrote:
> Well then stop going on as if your someone special just because you
> happened to vote, and stop criticizing the people who actually had
> reasons not to vote.
I'm sorry kevstar; you have no right to complain about voting, cos you didn't vote, or even spoil the ballot paper.
Next please.
> Well then stop going on as if your someone special just because you
> happened to vote, and stop criticizing the people who actually had
> reasons not to vote.
I'm sorry kevstar; you have no right to complain about voting, cos you didn't vote, or even spoil the ballot paper.
Next please.
kevstar wrote:
> Well then stop going on as if your someone special just because you
> happened to vote, and stop criticizing the people who actually had
> reasons not to vote.
You.
should.
have.
spoilt.
your.
paper.
you.
numptie.
Plain and simple enough?
> Well then stop going on as if your someone special just because you
> happened to vote, and stop criticizing the people who actually had
> reasons not to vote.
You.
should.
have.
spoilt.
your.
paper.
you.
numptie.
Plain and simple enough?
kevstar wrote:
> Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people
> don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first
> thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
I quite agree kevstar; Pan, you're not taking into account the people who are too moronic to vote, or the ones who didn't have Veritas standing in their constituency.
Y'know kevstar, for someone who says as many apocalyptically dumb things as you do, you might want to calm down on hurling accusations of stupidity elsewhere...
> Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people
> don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first
> thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
I quite agree kevstar; Pan, you're not taking into account the people who are too moronic to vote, or the ones who didn't have Veritas standing in their constituency.
Y'know kevstar, for someone who says as many apocalyptically dumb things as you do, you might want to calm down on hurling accusations of stupidity elsewhere...
Pandaemonium wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
> Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people
> don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first
> thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
>
> Idiot. Of course people don't vote because they're too lazy to. Or
> they simply don't care, which IMO amounts to exactly the same thing.
Well then stop going on as if your someone special just because you happened to vote, and stop criticizing the people who actually had reasons not to vote.
> kevstar wrote:
> Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people
> don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first
> thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
>
> Idiot. Of course people don't vote because they're too lazy to. Or
> they simply don't care, which IMO amounts to exactly the same thing.
Well then stop going on as if your someone special just because you happened to vote, and stop criticizing the people who actually had reasons not to vote.
kevstar wrote:
> Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people
> don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first
> thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
Idiot. Of course people don't vote because they're too lazy to. Or they simply don't care, which IMO amounts to exactly the same thing.
> Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people
> don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first
> thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
Idiot. Of course people don't vote because they're too lazy to. Or they simply don't care, which IMO amounts to exactly the same thing.
Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> Then you spoil the ballot card. Simple. The fact that you have done
> even this small thing shows that you don't agree with any of the
> parties and DON'T wish to show your support. If you don't even do
> that, then you're no better than the people that don't vote
> because they are too lazy to even get up of their ass, and are in
> fact, counted in the same group...
Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
>
> Then you spoil the ballot card. Simple. The fact that you have done
> even this small thing shows that you don't agree with any of the
> parties and DON'T wish to show your support. If you don't even do
> that, then you're no better than the people that don't vote
> because they are too lazy to even get up of their ass, and are in
> fact, counted in the same group...
Absolute rubbish, if your the only person who thinks that people don't vote because there too lazy then your more stupid than I first thought. Just listen to what your saying you idiot.
People have a freedom to complain regardless.
Blank wrote:
> "This war on Iraq is illegal, we've been lied to, it's all
> hypocrisy"
> "You didn't vote, shut up"
> "What?"
> "You didn't vote, so you can't say that"
> "So because I deliberately didn't put my faith in this
> government, I now can't complain about them?"
> "That's right"
> "And you, who voted for them, can?"
> "Yes, that's about the shape of things"
> "...Do you mind if I hurt you with this metal pole?"
Then you spoil the ballot card. Simple. The fact that you have done even this small thing shows that you don't agree with any of the parties and DON'T wish to show your support. If you don't even do that, then you're no better than the people that don't vote because they are too lazy to even get up of their ass, and are in fact, counted in the same group...
> "This war on Iraq is illegal, we've been lied to, it's all
> hypocrisy"
> "You didn't vote, shut up"
> "What?"
> "You didn't vote, so you can't say that"
> "So because I deliberately didn't put my faith in this
> government, I now can't complain about them?"
> "That's right"
> "And you, who voted for them, can?"
> "Yes, that's about the shape of things"
> "...Do you mind if I hurt you with this metal pole?"
Then you spoil the ballot card. Simple. The fact that you have done even this small thing shows that you don't agree with any of the parties and DON'T wish to show your support. If you don't even do that, then you're no better than the people that don't vote because they are too lazy to even get up of their ass, and are in fact, counted in the same group...
Light wrote:
> Okay; if you could just point out all the other methods the public
> have of choosing exactly who it is that governs them, I personally
> will be happy to admit that non-voters wailing about decisions that
> they played absolutely no part in should be given credence.
It's not about choosing who the government is. I don't see why somebody who doesn't vote for anyone at a general election can't complain about decisions that affect them. Surely they have more right than the people who voted for the party that got in? I just don't see the argument at all.
"This war on Iraq is illegal, we've been lied to, it's all hypocrisy"
"You didn't vote, shut up"
"What?"
"You didn't vote, so you can't say that"
"So because I deliberately didn't put my faith in this government, I now can't complain about them?"
"That's right"
"And you, who voted for them, can?"
"Yes, that's about the shape of things"
"...Do you mind if I hurt you with this metal pole?"
> Okay; if you could just point out all the other methods the public
> have of choosing exactly who it is that governs them, I personally
> will be happy to admit that non-voters wailing about decisions that
> they played absolutely no part in should be given credence.
It's not about choosing who the government is. I don't see why somebody who doesn't vote for anyone at a general election can't complain about decisions that affect them. Surely they have more right than the people who voted for the party that got in? I just don't see the argument at all.
"This war on Iraq is illegal, we've been lied to, it's all hypocrisy"
"You didn't vote, shut up"
"What?"
"You didn't vote, so you can't say that"
"So because I deliberately didn't put my faith in this government, I now can't complain about them?"
"That's right"
"And you, who voted for them, can?"
"Yes, that's about the shape of things"
"...Do you mind if I hurt you with this metal pole?"
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