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"Is it okay to kick a cat?"

Is it?

I'd say its okay, just don't kick black cats or you'll be cursed....CURSED!!!

Flock wrote:
> The question was what is "wrong" if he wants to be wrong he
> may be but he'll suffer the consequences and whether he thinks so or
> not, he will be wrong.

The question is not "what is wrong". The question is 'why' is it wrong?

Society may well think it is wrong, but this does not explain WHY kicking a cat is wrong. "it's wrong because society says so" doesn't answer the question. WHY does society say it is wrong is the question.

Chr1s wrote:
> Memorandum! wrote:
> How do you know that in 50 years the law won't be changed to allow
> cat-kicking as a sport?
>
> It's unlikely, but entirely possible. But your basing that on another
> issue. Just because society was wrong then doesn't mean it is for
> this issue.

I already answered this way back, wrong is in the moment, everything is subjective to it's own time and in this time and place it's wrong to kick the cat.

Flock wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Flock wrote:
> so come on, why should you get to kick the
> cat?
>
> Because he wants to and doesn't care about what society thinks.
>
> The question was what is "wrong" if he wants to be wrong he
> may be but he'll suffer the consequences and whether he thinks so or
> not, he will be wrong.
>
> Wrong = Bad, Incorrect, Negative, Not good
>
> If you kick the cat you are the above

And who defines what is wrong?
If, as he says no-one is watching, there are no consequences. And as the conscience is just society's internal imprint on you, diregarding society = disregarding your conscience = no emotional consequence either.

We're going in circles here people.
Me + Merm are right.

In the simpleist terms if society says it's wrong it is.

Memorandum! wrote:
> How do you know that in 50 years the law won't be changed to allow
> cat-kicking as a sport?

It's unlikely, but entirely possible. But your basing that on another issue. Just because society was wrong then doesn't mean it is for this issue.

FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Flock wrote:
> so come on, why should you get to kick the
> cat?
>
> Because he wants to and doesn't care about what society thinks.

The question was what is "wrong" if he wants to be wrong he may be but he'll suffer the consequences and whether he thinks so or not, he will be wrong.

Wrong = Bad, Incorrect, Negative, Not good

If you kick the cat you are the above

Flock wrote:
> Thats also your opinion and again it's one society doesn't agree
> with.
> Society decides whats wrong and right, thats all wrong and right are,
> the majority opinion.

Well, that's my reason for kicking the cat. I don't really have any other reason. I see it and I would like to kick it, regardless of what society thinks. Society says animal cruelty is wrong, but why is it wrong?

No-one has any problem with killing cows/pigs/turkeys/chickens.
I'm not even killing the cat, just kicking it.

Are farmers therefore worse than me? Should they be locked up?

But surely people who care about society therefore don't have the right to kick a cat therefore wont?

Chr1s wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Society and law once said it was good and proper to own a slave.
>
> Just because it was wrong then doesn't mean it is in this situation.

But goes to prove the point.