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"Is it okay to kick a cat?"

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Fri 25/03/05 at 19:32
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Is it?
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:30
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I'm merely playing Devil's Advocate, son.
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:28
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To Memorandum, I actually thought you were one of the people on here who had a brain, but this thread and your ridiculous, attention seeking views have proven otherwise.
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:27
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Memorandum! wrote:
> Flock wrote:

> to that, the cat probably doesn't want to be kicked and you're
> infringing the rights of the cats by kicking it as well as
>
> As a primitive animal it cannot express its rights. Therefore, how
> should we know that we are 'infringing' them?

If a cat makes a very loud scream and runs away (which is what a kicked cat does) then i'm pretty sure it's expressing it's feelings that it doesn't like to be kicked. And it's his right not to be kicked.
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:24
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Flock wrote:
> Well the cat looking like it should be kicked is a matter of opinion,
> of which you might be biased as maybe you want to kick the cat.

Yes, that is perception. Why is it that my perception should be considered wrong and someone else's opposing perception considered right?

> Added
> to that, the cat probably doesn't want to be kicked and you're
> infringing the rights of the cats by kicking it as well as

As a primitive animal it cannot express its rights. Therefore, how should we know that we are 'infringing' them?

> breaking
> the cruelty to animals law.

What is the relationship between morality and law? The law states that it 'is' illegal to do something, it does not follow that we therefore 'ought' not to do it. For instance if the law was that we had to have compulsory euthanasia at 65, it would not follow that it was right.

> Society will look down on you if you kick
> that cat and you shall suffer the eyes of those who know you kicked
> the cat.

The majority says its wrong, therefore it is wrong. Does this mean back when blacks were in slavery that it was right?
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:23
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Learned / innate morals and behaviours + social expectations.
Them's the reasons.
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:21
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Memorandum! wrote:
> I'm questioning the basis of morality and ethics, thankyouverymuch.
> If a cat is in front of me, and it looks like it should be kicked, is
> there any reason why I shouldn't do it? I don't think there is.

So by your way of thinking, if you were in front of me then there is no reason why I shouldn't kick you. I'll bear that in mind.
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:20
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To Chr1s:

But why were you upset at him for chasing your cat?
Why shouldn't the cat be chased?

Do you ever actually answer the questions that are posed?
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:20
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Memorandum! wrote:
> I'm questioning the basis of morality and ethics, thankyouverymuch.
> If a cat is in front of me, and it looks like it should be kicked, is
> there any reason why I shouldn't do it? I don't think there is.

Well the cat looking like it should be kicked is a matter of opinion, of which you might be biased as maybe you want to kick the cat. Added to that, the cat probably doesn't want to be kicked and you're infringing the rights of the cats by kicking it as well as breaking the cruelty to animals law. Society will look down on you if you kick that cat and you shall suffer the eyes of those who know you kicked the cat.
Enough reasons?
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:17
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Hard lad.
Fri 25/03/05 at 20:16
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Memorandum! wrote:
> Why is it cruel? It looks like it was designed to be kicked.

If you actually believe this then you are a complete moron. If I ever caught you kicking my cat then I'd probably beat you to death. I shouted at some kid once and made him run off crying just for chasing my cat.

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