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Mon 21/05/01 at 15:12
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Apparently, the Xbox's hard disk is only going to be only 8MB, which, compared to PS2's 40MB, seems pretty paltry.
Wed 23/05/01 at 10:10
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SonicRav, i know that RAM is more expensive than HDD space, but RAM has come donw a lot. Also Sony would be buying it in bulk, so they could get it cheaper.

I would have thought the overal performance of the PS2 could be improved if they put in 128MB RAM insstead of the 16 or 32 that it has now.

About .MP3's, will you be able to download them off the 'net? To do that you'll have to buy the software, and doesnt Sony control the software that is released on their machines? If they do, some people could see them as encouraging, or at least not helping, illegal .MP3 file transfers, a Napster type situation could occur?

I know for a fact that having copies of TV episodes on your computer, even if you own them on video, is illegal, so again, i cant see Sony endorsing any software that would enable you to do that.
Wed 23/05/01 at 09:36
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Armatige Shanks wrote:
> Impressive as in... You couldnt do without it?


I wouldn't go that far...

Impressive as in, if you don't have a PS2, you won't necessarily buy one because of it... but if you do have a PS2, you'll be sorely tempted!
Wed 23/05/01 at 08:48
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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From different sites. Or sharing file prorams like Napster. Or closed down FTP sites :). What I think your after is over 18 material as you say late night programs. And I wouldn't post details like that on here. There are sites dedicated to having Tv episodes e.g. Buffy, Angel, Charmed, Roswell, Dark Angel, Friends, Dawsons Creek, Simpsons e.t.c.
Wed 23/05/01 at 05:20
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adrian wrote:
> I think that 8Gb is small 40Gb is good. I have a 8Gb for my PC and
> am getting a 40Gb soon. That means I will have 48Gb all together. I
> have 2.5Gb Of Mp3's. I have 1.8Gb of Season 7 of Friends which I got
> from the Net. 3.25Gb Of Buffy season 5 and Angel season 2 episodes.
> Which are on CD as no room left. So with what I have I can put it
> all on my 8Gb for backup and then use the 40Gb for installing
> programs and getting movies and tv episodes from the internet. I
> could get a 20Gb but the 40Gb from SR is so cheap that you might
> aswell get it as at least you have the space.

Where dya get tv episodes! Do they have any late night TV programmes!
Wed 23/05/01 at 00:27
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I'm running my computer with only 64mb of ram and only a 2.5GB hard-drive. I just use it for porn and mp3s mostly. I play games on my brothers 20gig 128mb 1100mhz ting.
Tue 22/05/01 at 23:14
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Wòókiee Møn§†€R wrote:
I can't remember all the specifics at the moment, but their
> plans were quite impressive.

Impressive as in... You couldnt do without it?

Impressive as in only being able to play a third of perfect dark without the memory expansion on the N64?
Tue 22/05/01 at 21:00
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I think that 8Gb is small 40Gb is good. I have a 8Gb for my PC and am getting a 40Gb soon. That means I will have 48Gb all together. I have 2.5Gb Of Mp3's. I have 1.8Gb of Season 7 of Friends which I got from the Net. 3.25Gb Of Buffy season 5 and Angel season 2 episodes. Which are on CD as no room left. So with what I have I can put it all on my 8Gb for backup and then use the 40Gb for installing programs and getting movies and tv episodes from the internet. I could get a 20Gb but the 40Gb from SR is so cheap that you might aswell get it as at least you have the space.
Tue 22/05/01 at 20:39
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Your Honour wrote:
> True, but if the information is going to be stored on the HDD only
> while the game is running, and then deleted when the game is turned
> off, it's actng like RAM. Excpet RAM is a damn sight faster than a
> HDD.

I know that RAM is more expensive, but surely it would have
> been better to put more RAM in, and possibley a slightly smaller
> HDD.

I know you cant install stuff on the PS2 HDD, but im a bit
> confused abou waht it will actually be used for. It seems it;s only
> being used as a kind of RAM at the moment. You'll be able to save
> your games on it, but who needs 8GB to save their games! Will you be
> able to do other stuff with it?

I knew someone would see this! The real issue is RAM's price... it is sooooo high compared to GBs of memory!

As for the HDD use... they way I make it, it has 2 uses. Saving things off the web in the same way as on a PC. eg. save emails, new levels for games maybe etc.

Secondly, the drive may act as some sort of data store during when games are being played. This will inevitably save times on loading... but I might be sooo wrong!
The reason this is not done on the PS2 is that not everyone has a HDD... making it less likely to be used for extra features... in the same was as not everyone had a Sega CD or 32X, and hence there was little point to make games on them!

Sonic
Tue 22/05/01 at 20:39
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The PS2 HDD will (eventually) be used to store levels of games downloaded from Sony's online network, and they also plan to have 'episodic' games - i.e. you may be able to download a few extra levels of a Tomb Raider game, etc.

Sony's online plans were laid out in general terms in many of the magazines a good few months ago. With MagicGate security on the memory cards etc., they also envisage being able to use PS2 (and presumably PS3) for many of the things you would use your PC for; shopping, banking, MP3's, etc.

I can't remember all the specifics at the moment, but their plans were quite impressive. Of course, much of it depends on the availability of broadband in the UK, which doesn't necessarily bode well; however, that's not really Sony's fault, and every other console manufacturer will face the same problems.
Tue 22/05/01 at 20:22
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True, but if the information is going to be stored on the HDD only while the game is running, and then deleted when the game is turned off, it's actng like RAM. Excpet RAM is a damn sight faster than a HDD.

I know that RAM is more expensive, but surely it would have been better to put more RAM in, and possibley a slightly smaller HDD.

I know you cant install stuff on the PS2 HDD, but im a bit confused abou waht it will actually be used for. It seems it;s only being used as a kind of RAM at the moment. You'll be able to save your games on it, but who needs 8GB to save their games! Will you be able to do other stuff with it?

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