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I've been assigned a project by a rich, but nice, old lady.
Basically, it's a simple information site on holiday houses in a certain area. From my notes, I've come up with:
The website should have a front page that gives you all the basic information to know what the point of the website is - to show off and allow you to make booking enquirys about holiday houses offered in the area. Should make it obvious which area these houses are for. NOT a splash page.
It should include a page dedicated to what the holiday homes look like, how they are laid out, how many rooms they have. I will need to take my own photos.
It should also include a page showing what the immediete area is like - close to the beach, quiet location, shops and clubhouses nearby.
There should be a page showing interesting features of the entirety of the area - activitys and things to do, places to visit - also, the location in Britain placed by a simple map that gives the precise location without naming every single town in the area - should be able to be recognised as part of Britain.
There also needs to be a pricing and contact page - this will include a table of prices for different periods during the year, and a form for submitting inquirys about booking. These forms should allow instant auto-replies to show the user the email has been received. Also - other contact details, such as phone numbers and addresses, should be available, maybe as part of a 'header' that appears on each page.
I will need to supply my own photos, and create my own artwork. I will also need to design a logo for the holiday company.
Most importantly, it should be well laid out, look impressive enough without being over the top (the houses are two star), and be easy to navigate and use.
It's not a huge project, but it's big enough for someone like me who doesn't exactly do this sort of thing for a living, which brings me to my actual point of all this...
How much do I charge? I really have no idea whatsoever. I don't want to over-charge her, and equally I don't want to be underpaid. What sort of pricing would you suggest I charge for doing this?
Thanks for any replies.
Basically, it's a simple information site on holiday houses in a certain area. From my notes, I've come up with:
The website should have a front page that gives you all the basic information to know what the point of the website is - to show off and allow you to make booking enquirys about holiday houses offered in the area. Should make it obvious which area these houses are for. NOT a splash page.
It should include a page dedicated to what the holiday homes look like, how they are laid out, how many rooms they have. I will need to take my own photos.
It should also include a page showing what the immediete area is like - close to the beach, quiet location, shops and clubhouses nearby.
There should be a page showing interesting features of the entirety of the area - activitys and things to do, places to visit - also, the location in Britain placed by a simple map that gives the precise location without naming every single town in the area - should be able to be recognised as part of Britain.
There also needs to be a pricing and contact page - this will include a table of prices for different periods during the year, and a form for submitting inquirys about booking. These forms should allow instant auto-replies to show the user the email has been received. Also - other contact details, such as phone numbers and addresses, should be available, maybe as part of a 'header' that appears on each page.
I will need to supply my own photos, and create my own artwork. I will also need to design a logo for the holiday company.
Most importantly, it should be well laid out, look impressive enough without being over the top (the houses are two star), and be easy to navigate and use.
It's not a huge project, but it's big enough for someone like me who doesn't exactly do this sort of thing for a living, which brings me to my actual point of all this...
How much do I charge? I really have no idea whatsoever. I don't want to over-charge her, and equally I don't want to be underpaid. What sort of pricing would you suggest I charge for doing this?
Thanks for any replies.
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Grix Thraves wrote:
> Tyla wrote:
> "Good luck Darren, hope it goes well for you."
>
> Thanks, just got back. I'm going to hell. ARghhhh
>
> Promised I'll try and do it as fast as I can to keep costs down, so
> starting tomorrow. Tonight I must spend praying and reading the
> bible.
Oops. Not good.
Don't forget, your not the only one with deadlines to meet, they have deadline for content so if they're late, it's not your problem. The secret is to make any possible delays the faul tof the client and not yours, then they can't moan about it if things aren't on time!;)
Well done though.
Finally... Get everything signed and agreed or it'll come and bite you back in the @rse!;)
> Tyla wrote:
> "Good luck Darren, hope it goes well for you."
>
> Thanks, just got back. I'm going to hell. ARghhhh
>
> Promised I'll try and do it as fast as I can to keep costs down, so
> starting tomorrow. Tonight I must spend praying and reading the
> bible.
Oops. Not good.
Don't forget, your not the only one with deadlines to meet, they have deadline for content so if they're late, it's not your problem. The secret is to make any possible delays the faul tof the client and not yours, then they can't moan about it if things aren't on time!;)
Well done though.
Finally... Get everything signed and agreed or it'll come and bite you back in the @rse!;)
Tyla wrote:
"Good luck Darren, hope it goes well for you."
Thanks, just got back. I'm going to hell. ARghhhh
Promised I'll try and do it as fast as I can to keep costs down, so starting tomorrow. Tonight I must spend praying and reading the bible.
"Good luck Darren, hope it goes well for you."
Thanks, just got back. I'm going to hell. ARghhhh
Promised I'll try and do it as fast as I can to keep costs down, so starting tomorrow. Tonight I must spend praying and reading the bible.
Tyla wrote:
>>
> Advert recently in the window of Oxford City McD's was claiming 18K
> for staff, £25k managers. I was quite surprised myself.
That will be the great North South divide again lol :-)
>>
> Advert recently in the window of Oxford City McD's was claiming 18K
> for staff, £25k managers. I was quite surprised myself.
That will be the great North South divide again lol :-)
Grix Thraves wrote:
> I'm off to see
> the woman tonight, hopefully not give her a heart attack. I'm going
> to suggest it will take between 2-3 weeks, and somehow decide on a
> price of about £700. Yikes.
Good luck Darren, hope it goes well for you.
> I'm off to see
> the woman tonight, hopefully not give her a heart attack. I'm going
> to suggest it will take between 2-3 weeks, and somehow decide on a
> price of about £700. Yikes.
Good luck Darren, hope it goes well for you.
Shelljed wrote:
> Some times when a small new buisness is starting up all they may need
> is a web presence? and perhaps the non pro method is suffice for
> their needs? some times basic HTML and some well placed meta tags is
> all that is needed.
Firm I work for atm offers basic start up packages at £450 which is a simple design, SEO, and about 5 pages with basic imnagery. As for design, they get about 2 hours work for conceptuals through to final template, so although it;s cheap for them, it;s also low quality and simple...
The art is to maintain a good relationship with that client so that when day "x" comes along and they want to move in a different direction, you can then make more out of them for larger, better produced projects.
> Some times when a small new buisness is starting up all they may need
> is a web presence? and perhaps the non pro method is suffice for
> their needs? some times basic HTML and some well placed meta tags is
> all that is needed.
Firm I work for atm offers basic start up packages at £450 which is a simple design, SEO, and about 5 pages with basic imnagery. As for design, they get about 2 hours work for conceptuals through to final template, so although it;s cheap for them, it;s also low quality and simple...
The art is to maintain a good relationship with that client so that when day "x" comes along and they want to move in a different direction, you can then make more out of them for larger, better produced projects.
Shelljed wrote:
> that to a McDonalds employee who makes £18k pa basic,
>
> thats a cracking wage for McDonalds they must be putting in some
> hours? as the McDs near us pays the minimum £4.85 PH
Advert recently in the window of Oxford City McD's was claiming 18K for staff, £25k managers. I was quite surprised myself.
> that to a McDonalds employee who makes £18k pa basic,
>
> thats a cracking wage for McDonalds they must be putting in some
> hours? as the McDs near us pays the minimum £4.85 PH
Advert recently in the window of Oxford City McD's was claiming 18K for staff, £25k managers. I was quite surprised myself.
Nimco wrote:
"Check out this site: [URL]http://www.dcfloridahomes.co.uk[/URL]."
No offense intended, but I find that design graphically bland, and I really wouldn't settle for that... which is why I think I agree more with Tyla for this. I don't want to overcharge her, especially not for coding, but the design work and effort I will put into the graphical look and feel of the website at least in my mind covers the costs. Still making it simple to use and quick to load, without massive pictures and flash files, but also making it quite stylish and kind on the eye. That'll take the longest time. Code is code and is either right or wrong (mostly), design is different.
But anything, thank you all so much for these replies. I'm off to see the woman tonight, hopefully not give her a heart attack. I'm going to suggest it will take between 2-3 weeks, and somehow decide on a price of about £700. Yikes.
"Check out this site: [URL]http://www.dcfloridahomes.co.uk[/URL]."
No offense intended, but I find that design graphically bland, and I really wouldn't settle for that... which is why I think I agree more with Tyla for this. I don't want to overcharge her, especially not for coding, but the design work and effort I will put into the graphical look and feel of the website at least in my mind covers the costs. Still making it simple to use and quick to load, without massive pictures and flash files, but also making it quite stylish and kind on the eye. That'll take the longest time. Code is code and is either right or wrong (mostly), design is different.
But anything, thank you all so much for these replies. I'm off to see the woman tonight, hopefully not give her a heart attack. I'm going to suggest it will take between 2-3 weeks, and somehow decide on a price of about £700. Yikes.
I might as well add my 2 cents to this topic. I started off designing sites from my bedroom - still am cos I'm just doing everything from my room at Uni.
The first site I did I charged £5 per page and made £45 overall. I was thrilled cos I was only 12 at the time, and £45 was a reasonable amount of money!
However, the way I charge now is to just be sensible. An easy way to think about it is by asking yourself two questions:
1) What is the minimum amount of money you would do the site for?
2) How much do you think they are prepared to pay?
Generally, when I was about 15ish, I would charge £10 per hour. It seems reasonable really. You have to think how it appears to the client if you charge more - sure, you might have a great web site and a powerful web presence in general, but in the end you will have to communicate more personally with the client.
This may either be by phone or in person (I prefer meeting in person wherever possible) but it would be dishonest and/or impossible to conceal your age. As a result, you can see why some people would be reluctant to pay a 15yo £50 per pay to do some work for them.
In real terms, for this project, I would probably recommend about £350 or thereabouts.
Check out this site: [URL]http://www.dcfloridahomes.co.uk[/URL].
That's a very similar site from what I gather, and I did that when I was about your age and charged £350 for that. In the end though, it's your call - if you're not prepared to do that much work for £350, charge more; if you feel that £350 is too much, charge less. I wouldn't go much less than that though.
The first site I did I charged £5 per page and made £45 overall. I was thrilled cos I was only 12 at the time, and £45 was a reasonable amount of money!
However, the way I charge now is to just be sensible. An easy way to think about it is by asking yourself two questions:
1) What is the minimum amount of money you would do the site for?
2) How much do you think they are prepared to pay?
Generally, when I was about 15ish, I would charge £10 per hour. It seems reasonable really. You have to think how it appears to the client if you charge more - sure, you might have a great web site and a powerful web presence in general, but in the end you will have to communicate more personally with the client.
This may either be by phone or in person (I prefer meeting in person wherever possible) but it would be dishonest and/or impossible to conceal your age. As a result, you can see why some people would be reluctant to pay a 15yo £50 per pay to do some work for them.
In real terms, for this project, I would probably recommend about £350 or thereabouts.
Check out this site: [URL]http://www.dcfloridahomes.co.uk[/URL].
That's a very similar site from what I gather, and I did that when I was about your age and charged £350 for that. In the end though, it's your call - if you're not prepared to do that much work for £350, charge more; if you feel that £350 is too much, charge less. I wouldn't go much less than that though.
Quote from an earlier post
"That's where joe bloggs and his dodgy copy of Frontpage steps in @ £50 in his bedroom;)
Effectively your paying for what you get, which I suppose is the difference between using a professional and a non-pro/bedroom kiddie."
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Some times when a small new buisness is starting up all they may need is a web presence? and perhaps the non pro method is suffice for their needs? some times basic HTML and some well placed meta tags is all that is needed. Not every one wants flash sites and not every one needs all singing and dancing web sites not every one will can afford to pay such high rates, am not saying that your not worth the money because you certainaly are, it takes time and effort to learn all these codes, but you do not need an all singing web site all the time.
The dodgy bedroom web sites sometimes offer real value for money I have seen some impressive sites appear from a bedroom! also seen some pathetic ones to!
"That's where joe bloggs and his dodgy copy of Frontpage steps in @ £50 in his bedroom;)
Effectively your paying for what you get, which I suppose is the difference between using a professional and a non-pro/bedroom kiddie."
Reply
Some times when a small new buisness is starting up all they may need is a web presence? and perhaps the non pro method is suffice for their needs? some times basic HTML and some well placed meta tags is all that is needed. Not every one wants flash sites and not every one needs all singing and dancing web sites not every one will can afford to pay such high rates, am not saying that your not worth the money because you certainaly are, it takes time and effort to learn all these codes, but you do not need an all singing web site all the time.
The dodgy bedroom web sites sometimes offer real value for money I have seen some impressive sites appear from a bedroom! also seen some pathetic ones to!
that to a McDonalds employee who makes £18k pa basic,
thats a cracking wage for McDonalds they must be putting in some hours? as the McDs near us pays the minimum £4.85 PH
thats a cracking wage for McDonalds they must be putting in some hours? as the McDs near us pays the minimum £4.85 PH
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