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Fri 14/01/05 at 13:29
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well its finally gone through and is one o the more obscure transfers i can remember. Awesome signing for real. Luxemburgo could be the man for the job, if he was fully behind that transfer then at least it hows he appreciates what you need to sustain a good team, hard workers who give it all even when your losing.
Some one needs to cover those yards the flair players concede! This is actually the first time ive looked at the real team in about 5 or 6 years and thought it looked reasonably well balanced. Now they have lost the 1-1-8 formation they might actually do well.
Theoretically when the teams fit they will now have a decent defence, something they hadn't had in ages. When they had to midfielders (helguera and hierro) as centre backs and were pretty much entirely dependent on makalele stopping the ball reaching the defence because carlos was marking the oppositions 6 yard box. Now with Gravesen shielding the defence, and woodgate in reality a new signing for when he's fit; paired with Samuel they will be defensively solid even with some uber-aggresive wingbacks.
Mon 24/01/05 at 13:02
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Clazon wrote:
> -You have a pressure to perform, which Arsenal players seem to cave
> under.


glad you said that, allows me to say that if you look up choking in the dictionary there will be a picture of the faux french cockney gang staring back at you :-D
Mon 24/01/05 at 01:46
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I think he was just making a point of it being a wider problem across Spain, as opposed to just a isolated incident.
Mon 24/01/05 at 01:38
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AbsoluT Neó wrote:
> Clazon wrote:
> So that "delightful" chanting didn't give it away then?
>
> Indeed, however when Real went to play at Athletico Madrid, Roberto
> Carlos/Ronaldo were both targetted with Racial chanting. Taking into
> consideration the Spain game, the Chanting at both Madrid grounds -
> this has got to be a Spain problem as a whole.

Taking into account race riots in Brixton, and the BNP in Bradford, I must be a racist because I live in the UK?

What?
Mon 17/01/05 at 22:10
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or†ega wrote:
> Them first two points are rather invalid considering you went out to
> Utd and Chelsea last season...

First of all, we can all see that for whatever reason Arsenal are very good in the FA. And our reserves practically won the League Cup last year...but...err...the point was that we suck in CL.

If it wasn't for Cole header, we would've been out at the group stages, let alone get as far as we did. Again we hardly looked like defo's and the odds on favorites that we were hyped up to be. SO for that sake, the points are valid.
Mon 17/01/05 at 21:08
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"Long time no see!"
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That's Everton's top-five finish out of the question now, surely.

David Moyes clearly has a dislike for individuals who are reported to be carrying the team almost signle-handedly at times.

Perhaps this means they'll only grow from strength-to-strength again??
Mon 17/01/05 at 21:07
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Saw his debut at the weekend.
It was good.
Mon 17/01/05 at 21:06
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I'm very surprised to see Everton let him go.

I know his contract was still set to expire, and that £2m+ was therefore a good price to get, but surely, that's their season over already?

Why couldn't he have stayed the rest of the season?

After all, following Rooney's transfer, it's not like they're in desperate need of money, now, is it!


I hope he gives Beckham a real run for his money and I hope he makes his time their very good indeed.
Sun 16/01/05 at 11:50
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Them first two points are rather invalid considering you went out to Utd and Chelsea last season...
Sun 16/01/05 at 03:46
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I quite agree, but you yourself have just stated why Arsenal never do that well in cups. It isn't a mystery why it happens. It's simply because cups are different.

-You playing different teams from those you have played year in year out and have a good measure of.

-You have no past record against teams and nothing to prove that you are better than them, even if it's obvious.

-You have a pressure to perform, which Arsenal players seem to cave under.

-There seems to be a lack of confidence in cup competitions.

-Tactics and style can be different. Arsenal as a side certainly can't change their style that easily at all.
Sun 16/01/05 at 03:33
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no granted it was an xceptional prformance, but arsenal proved it was luck to go undefeated in he leagu al ason by losing a fair few games in the cup cometiions, to not lose was lucky, to win the title was fully deserved!

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