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Thu 30/12/04 at 14:09
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"Brooklyn boy"
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Going to have a little mini-rant on two players opening their big fat gobs - Alan Smith and Terry Henry

Firstly Smudger - What in the hell are you on about calling Ronaldo selfish. Hmmm where have all these black pots and kettles come from? That's what makes Ronaldo dangerous, just running at players with the ball and not caring about where the team is until he gets around the by line area and after about the 7th stepover. I was watching the Villa game and it was like a different Ronaldo, he began to run at a player and then stopped to look for a pass only for that numpty (usually Smith or Fletcher) to lose it. You wouldn't stifle Giggsy's creativity don't bloody do it to the Portugese wizard. And even when he does set up a move you still can't bloody score from 3 yards out. Now zip it because you're far easier to replace in the squad then Ronaldo is.

secondly Mr Henry decides to flap his gums about Man United and Chelsea buying players while Henry is happy Arsenal play the youth. Ah yes Henry would that be great home grown talents like Jose Reyes? Matthew Flamini? Cesc Fabregas? Gael Clichy? Ah yes great home town boys there. Are United and Chelsea taking money from little orphans to buy their players? Nope i don't think so so what business of yours is it about who we buy and how much for. Or again it could be because your frightened? Chelsea far away in the distance, United nippin at your toes, is that a bit of fear in your eyes Henry? Oh sorry you're French it's always there :-D

zip it both of you numpties and concentrate on the football. Gary Neville can talk enough for everyone :-D
Thu 30/12/04 at 21:25
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You know it. A flo-flo
Fri 31/12/04 at 11:33
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"Long time no see!"
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I wouldn't call Cristiano Ronaldo "selfish", as such - but I'd certainly say he's the type of young player who enjoys playing to the crowd with the one 'gimmick' of his that has made him such a 'star' across all of Europe.

Sometimes, such as when he first joined our first-team, it really did work wonders. Now, however, it's just so tired and old. We know what he's gonna do; one-way or the other. Defenders can see it coming. At times, he seems he knows nothing else of his game.

How often does he get the ball in the box soon after recieving it?
Or, to rephrase that... How often do you see him opt for the early ball to penetrate the defence (as Giggs or even Beckham would do), when instead, he likes to cick his heels and flick some tricks for the nice camera man over there (and MILLIONS of people watching the game from all around the world)...?

He still has an awful lot to learn, I feel. More so than trustworthy Alan Smith, who will ALWAYS give you all he can. He's never make an immature attacking descision. Sure, he may've hit the bar and he can be a little rash in the tackle... But, his commitment for the TEAM is there. He knows where he should be looking; he knows where the ball needs to go.

There's not an awful I can fault Ronaldo for at this early stage in his career. I thought he was superb in Euro 2004 when Portugal needed the Luis Figo who's legs appeared to have gotten the better of him.

If Ferguson can curb the attention-seeking nature of this young man's game, we'll all be far better off for it, I feel. Ronaldo will be better off for it.
Fri 31/12/04 at 11:37
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Thierry Henry - use you big far mouth to tell your big fat inflated head to stop coming up with such utter balls!

Why can't you take second-place like a real man?
You can't be everyone's favourite all the time, you know!

Quite frankly, you're whinging like Anelka!
Almost!


If Cesc Fabregas and Matthieu Flamini are as home-grown as they come, then I expect to see the name "Manchester" on the birth certificates of Cristiano Ronaldo, David Bellion and Kleberson, also!
Fri 31/12/04 at 12:00
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Quinty wrote:
> Right, ive either misread the original post completley wrong or i'm
> stating the obvious here. He said he's happy playing the youth, yes?
> That bares no relation in my mind to home grown talent. Youth of all
> nationalities, dont see the problem. Youth doesnt automatically mean
> home grown talent.
>
> Or am i being dense?

No you really aren't. It's the rest that are being "dense".
Fri 31/12/04 at 21:50
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"Brooklyn boy"
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It was referring to home grown players brought up through the ranks, i thought it would be obvious when i said in the next sentence 'home grown talents' but obviously not.
Sat 01/01/05 at 21:36
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"The Red Shift"
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You implied that Henry said youth and you twisted it into home grown. But I guess I can understand your displeasure if Henry did say home grown.
Sat 01/01/05 at 21:53
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lalakersrule wrote:
> It was referring to home grown players brought up through the ranks, i
> thought it would be obvious when i said in the next sentence 'home
> grown talents' but obviously not.

Er not really, as Clazon said they are in no way related.

Could you link me to this piece you found please?
Sun 02/01/05 at 00:50
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
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Smithy is right about Ronaldo at times he can be wonderful but other times very wasteful and im sure it can be frustating for the others. Looking at the game vs Boro, he was poor and his distribution and vision was worse. Against Villa he was something else. I guess he's still young and will learn and who better to learn from than the born again Giggsy.
Sun 02/01/05 at 00:54
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"The Red Shift"
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AbsoluT Neó and numerous other people write:

>Giggsy



Muuhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Sun 02/01/05 at 00:56
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cant rember which united player said it, might have been giggsy, but even o'shea is known as sheasy :)

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