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"23,700 dead, and you tell me theres a god?"

This is tradegy of a phenominal scale. I cannot even contemplate that many human lives ending at once, and on christmas. Its a sick thing.

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127,000 was the final count, although its feared it was somewhere closer to 150,000. All I want to add is not to those who died, but for the survivors, I hope things don't get to hard for you and I wish you the best of luck.

Someone's been on the funny pills today...

I think I see where Xenophon is coming from. People believe in God and it is that belief that persuades them to make certain actions. There may not be a physical God but your conscience isn't physical either but you'd agree that that was real. However, if nobody believed in God then nobodies actions would be influenced by him and therefore he woudn't exist in any form, physically or mentally.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If there wasn't a god Mario'd be shooting hookers.

JFH wrote:
> There may not be a physical God but your conscience isn't physical > either but you'd agree that that was real.

Conscience is chemical. Its all the brain mate. Take away the brain, no conscience. Conscience is awareness of your surroundings, with the ability to recognise your own exsistence.

ShortyUK wrote:
>Conscience is awareness of your surroundings

Is that not conscious rather than conscience?

Your conscience tells you what is right and wrong. In Pinnochio they use the green bug guy in the top hat as a sort of physical version of Pinnochio's conscience, trying to guide him and teach him not to lie.

Loads of cartoons do it with the little angel and devil that appear on people's shoulders when they have a difficult decision to make. They're obviously not physically real but they are real within our minds. I'm not saying that you picture little cartoon angels and devils but you do have to weigh up the pros and cons and try to make a morally correct choice.

Anyone on here do sociology A level (or Degree). I don't but my friend does and she was telling me about a theory on religion, I can't remember what its called, but basically it talks about religion as a way of manipulatin society. So if you we're to compare God to your conscience, you'd have to say that God is a globally shared manipulation, whereas conscience is all your own creation. I'm not totally sure I phrased that right but I think you should get what I mean.

Shared resurrection imagery through various religions: collective unconscious? (or possibly even a collective Super Ego with a collective Super stick up it's ar*e).

If anything, this occurence should reinforce christian's belief in a god.

What with all the plagues and stuff he inflicted upon people aaaaages ago.

It was fine back then, wasn't it. Now it's all 'god is a push-over and we can do whatever we want to earth without him reacting.'

I'm not a christian anymore, but if I was, I'd look on this disaster as an act of god.

Its simply gods way of saying, "Here america, let me help you with the ethnic cleansing."