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I have decided to start a discussion on the topic of sex education. This idea has come from reading the "Young Prostitutes" thread and this comment:
xgamer wrote:
>
> They teach them at 10 actually. Isn't that a bit young ?
>
Haldisa wrote:
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>I dont think so.
Sex Education: Where Do You Stand?
This is my opinion, I would like to hear where you stand in each of these 3 areas:
Teaching in schools
I feel the teaching of sex education in schools leaves a lot to be desired. In my school we had maybe 3 lessons in religion class each year on the subject, all very basic where a baby comes from stuff, nothing at all dealing with the emotional side rather than the physical. In primary school we had one day in our last year dedicated to sex education, it was pointless. It consisted of the woman reading through a couple of stories about teenagers’ dilemmas with their boy/girlfriends and a discussion of what we as a class thought would be the right outcome to the situation. I have heard of schemes run in other schools where parents are more involved in the sex education programme. This I feel, has its positives and its negatives for the child, but should be an option given in more schools to have parent involvement.
Teaching at home
I think this is the vital area for a child to develop a sexual education. I am a firm believer that it should be the parents who teach the child about sexual relationships. Parents, unlike teachers, can give their child something that usually isn’t present in a school situation – two way communication and a bond that hopefully gives the child the confidence to talk when they need to about sexual matters. I feel that one of the more important areas of parenting is dealing with sex education in a positive manner, unfortunately it is an area largely ignored by most parents simply because it can be awkward and uncomfortable sometimes, but surely your child having the right information and the confidence to talk to you when they want or need to is far more important.
What age?
So, at what age should the subject first be broached with a child? Well that does largely depend on the child and when the parent feels they are ready, but sometimes it may be better if the parent helps the child be ready than wait until they feel the child is ready. I think first approaching the subject when the child is young, maybe 8-9 is a positive step, it opens the door before the child has had too much exposure to the schoolyard rumours and gossip, and also starts building the relationship from a young age between parent and child. At this young age obviously not too much info need be given but it also means that as the child grows there doesn’t need to be one time where the child gets an information overload and then it’s never mentioned again.
xgamer wrote:
>
> They teach them at 10 actually. Isn't that a bit young ?
>
Haldisa wrote:
>
>I dont think so.
Sex Education: Where Do You Stand?
This is my opinion, I would like to hear where you stand in each of these 3 areas:
Teaching in schools
I feel the teaching of sex education in schools leaves a lot to be desired. In my school we had maybe 3 lessons in religion class each year on the subject, all very basic where a baby comes from stuff, nothing at all dealing with the emotional side rather than the physical. In primary school we had one day in our last year dedicated to sex education, it was pointless. It consisted of the woman reading through a couple of stories about teenagers’ dilemmas with their boy/girlfriends and a discussion of what we as a class thought would be the right outcome to the situation. I have heard of schemes run in other schools where parents are more involved in the sex education programme. This I feel, has its positives and its negatives for the child, but should be an option given in more schools to have parent involvement.
Teaching at home
I think this is the vital area for a child to develop a sexual education. I am a firm believer that it should be the parents who teach the child about sexual relationships. Parents, unlike teachers, can give their child something that usually isn’t present in a school situation – two way communication and a bond that hopefully gives the child the confidence to talk when they need to about sexual matters. I feel that one of the more important areas of parenting is dealing with sex education in a positive manner, unfortunately it is an area largely ignored by most parents simply because it can be awkward and uncomfortable sometimes, but surely your child having the right information and the confidence to talk to you when they want or need to is far more important.
What age?
So, at what age should the subject first be broached with a child? Well that does largely depend on the child and when the parent feels they are ready, but sometimes it may be better if the parent helps the child be ready than wait until they feel the child is ready. I think first approaching the subject when the child is young, maybe 8-9 is a positive step, it opens the door before the child has had too much exposure to the schoolyard rumours and gossip, and also starts building the relationship from a young age between parent and child. At this young age obviously not too much info need be given but it also means that as the child grows there doesn’t need to be one time where the child gets an information overload and then it’s never mentioned again.
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Light wrote:
> Heh. And of course, the fact that they shouldn't be doing it will
> definitely stop them from doing it, right? Cos teenagers never
> ever do things purely because they know they're not supposed to...oh.
Of course, they'll rebel against any advice and safe sex is just another rule to break, so how do you go about changing that attitude when teenagers have always been the same ?
EDIT
I read on and see you've answered already
> Heh. And of course, the fact that they shouldn't be doing it will
> definitely stop them from doing it, right? Cos teenagers never
> ever do things purely because they know they're not supposed to...oh.
Of course, they'll rebel against any advice and safe sex is just another rule to break, so how do you go about changing that attitude when teenagers have always been the same ?
EDIT
I read on and see you've answered already
Light wrote:
> Stuff I couldn't agree more with.
> Stuff I couldn't agree more with.
My two cents...
The Dutch way of doing things is much MUCH better. In fact, openness about sex is in every way preferable to the quasi-Victorian prurience that we're bogged down by.
From what I can gather about current sex education, we teach the mechanics of it, but continue to say "Now that we've told how to do it, DON'T DO IT! WICKED, SINFUL CHILD!!" Whereas in Holland one gets taught all about sex, and one is encouraged not to feel like Satan's todger tadpoles for wanting to do it.
In other words, the problem here isn't with the teenagers or with the sex education. It's the parents and various "concerned" adults who have a problem with sex, and do their damndest to pass their fears onto the next generation.
The Dutch way of doing things is much MUCH better. In fact, openness about sex is in every way preferable to the quasi-Victorian prurience that we're bogged down by.
From what I can gather about current sex education, we teach the mechanics of it, but continue to say "Now that we've told how to do it, DON'T DO IT! WICKED, SINFUL CHILD!!" Whereas in Holland one gets taught all about sex, and one is encouraged not to feel like Satan's todger tadpoles for wanting to do it.
In other words, the problem here isn't with the teenagers or with the sex education. It's the parents and various "concerned" adults who have a problem with sex, and do their damndest to pass their fears onto the next generation.
Netherlands. Lowest European teenage pregnancy rate. Very open about sex.
Uk. Highest European teenage pregnancy rate. Prudish and closed minded about sex.
Really, what's the argument here?
On a side note, Japan has the lowest global teenage pregnancy rate, but it's unfair to compare to the UK as it's a culture of vastly different attitudes.
[edit] Can't find an actual age, but: -
"In the Netherlands, where comprehensive sex education is taught from a young age, teens are opting to have sex at a later age — 17. The Netherlands also has the lowest teen pregnancy rate in Europe."
Uk. Highest European teenage pregnancy rate. Prudish and closed minded about sex.
Really, what's the argument here?
On a side note, Japan has the lowest global teenage pregnancy rate, but it's unfair to compare to the UK as it's a culture of vastly different attitudes.
[edit] Can't find an actual age, but: -
"In the Netherlands, where comprehensive sex education is taught from a young age, teens are opting to have sex at a later age — 17. The Netherlands also has the lowest teen pregnancy rate in Europe."
Novocaine wrote:
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> If they're not grown up enough to talk about it they really shouldn't
> be doing it, we both know people who have had access to all the
> contraception and just choose not to use it, this might help some but
> it's attitudes that really need changing.
Heh. And of course, the fact that they shouldn't be doing it will definitely stop them from doing it, right? Cos teenagers never ever do things purely because they know they're not supposed to...oh.
>
> If they're not grown up enough to talk about it they really shouldn't
> be doing it, we both know people who have had access to all the
> contraception and just choose not to use it, this might help some but
> it's attitudes that really need changing.
Heh. And of course, the fact that they shouldn't be doing it will definitely stop them from doing it, right? Cos teenagers never ever do things purely because they know they're not supposed to...oh.
Haldisa wrote:
> I would have seen it as promoting safe sex and as guidance.
It's the lesser of two evils to parents because it's still promoting sex.
> Trying to discourage teenage sex
> is pointless these days, in this day and age I feel it is a better
> approach to offer guidance rather than push abstinence to the point
> where kids feel they have to take risks when they want to have sex
> rather than get "found out".
If they're not grown up enough to talk about it they really shouldn't be doing it, we both know people who have had access to all the contraception and just choose not to use it, this might help some but it's attitudes that really need changing.
> I would have seen it as promoting safe sex and as guidance.
It's the lesser of two evils to parents because it's still promoting sex.
> Trying to discourage teenage sex
> is pointless these days, in this day and age I feel it is a better
> approach to offer guidance rather than push abstinence to the point
> where kids feel they have to take risks when they want to have sex
> rather than get "found out".
If they're not grown up enough to talk about it they really shouldn't be doing it, we both know people who have had access to all the contraception and just choose not to use it, this might help some but it's attitudes that really need changing.
luscious_limey wrote:
I certainly dont condone it but as the young
> r gonna do it anyway its a moot point as to if its encouragement or
> is prevention better than cure?
I wouldnt have seen it as encouragement, I would have seen it as promoting safe sex and as guidance. Trying to discourage teenage sex is pointless these days, in this day and age I feel it is a better approach to offer guidance rather than push abstinence to the point where kids feel they have to take risks when they want to have sex rather than get "found out".
I certainly dont condone it but as the young
> r gonna do it anyway its a moot point as to if its encouragement or
> is prevention better than cure?
I wouldnt have seen it as encouragement, I would have seen it as promoting safe sex and as guidance. Trying to discourage teenage sex is pointless these days, in this day and age I feel it is a better approach to offer guidance rather than push abstinence to the point where kids feel they have to take risks when they want to have sex rather than get "found out".
luscious_limey wrote:
> As a parent i can discuss anything with my kids and do... they know
> they r free to ask and i will b sympathetic...best to talk about all
> aspects like aids and contraception..
I agree, it unfortunately is overlooked by most parents though.
but also its not just an act
> its feelings..emotion.. As 4 the right time I feel its when they
> ask questions about 8 or 9 methinks
I feel that would be the right age too, I know that is when I would have started asking questions if my parents had been even remotely interested.
> As a parent i can discuss anything with my kids and do... they know
> they r free to ask and i will b sympathetic...best to talk about all
> aspects like aids and contraception..
I agree, it unfortunately is overlooked by most parents though.
but also its not just an act
> its feelings..emotion.. As 4 the right time I feel its when they
> ask questions about 8 or 9 methinks
I feel that would be the right age too, I know that is when I would have started asking questions if my parents had been even remotely interested.
Fozz wrote:
> Stuff
Who in the hell would ask a prudish "Sex is BAD" type of christian for sex education? It's like asking a Nazi for advice on equal rights.
> Stuff
Who in the hell would ask a prudish "Sex is BAD" type of christian for sex education? It's like asking a Nazi for advice on equal rights.
Novocaine wrote:
> How old are your kids if you dont mind me asking and have you spoken
> to them yet ?
Christ, first thing you asked. Is there no end to your extreme perversion?
> How old are your kids if you dont mind me asking and have you spoken
> to them yet ?
Christ, first thing you asked. Is there no end to your extreme perversion?
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