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> homosh wrote:
> No, that's not what it is. It's typical for the relationship between
> a
> mother and her son to be stronger than it is between a husband and
> his wife. Married people get divorced, I've never seen a mother who
> woke up one day and decided to go find another son
>
> Perhaps because it's impossible? Have to say, V_Ms comment was my
> immediate thought. :P
That's not an excuse. I'll put it in another way: Let's suppose a mother had 6 kids, is it a common thing that she would throw away the stupid ones, and only keep the smart ones ? Even mothers who have mentally retarded children still love them.
Fozz wrote:
> You canttell me thats not real. thats not dillusion.
Yes it is.
>and if you love your mom more than your dad does that pretty screwed up.
It is typical, that's all.
> in cases where the parents are in
> love then they probably love each other more than the kids love them.
Now that's screwed up.
> Love exists eh? well thats a relief. lol. Id be interested to know
> more about this sceintific proof.
There is no scientific proof.
> homosh, dont get confused between love an attraction. you can love
> someone AND be attracted to them (married couples), you can love
> someone and NOT be attracted to someone (friends and relations) , or
> you can be attracted to someone but not love them (that girl with big
> hooters who glared at me the other night), and of course you can
> neither love someone or be attracted to them (my parents). Thats a
> very rough generalisation, but....eh. When you say a girl is sexy,
> its attraction. When I say Id die for a girl, its love. I hope you
> find love one day. lol.
I'm not confused. Actually in both cases it is attraction, it's just that your mind can't accept it in some cases when there are some things you don't like about the person, so you just call it attraction, and when you get too close to that person, this attraction increases till your mind accepts it, then you decide to call it love.
EDIT: Also about hoping that I would find love someday, when I read that I burst into laughing for more than 2 minutes.
If we just pretend for a minute that you did have a girlfriend and that you did decide to get married, you would have more love and respect for your mother and your friends than you would for her?
Also, you say that you should be willing to die for your mother and your friends...surely your wife/partner IS your friend too? Saying otherwise is just stupid.
> Love exists eh? well thats a relief. lol. Id be interested to know
> more about this sceintific proof.
>
> There is no scientific proof.
Actually there is.
*ahem*
> in cases where the parents are in
> love then they probably love each other more than the kids love
> them.
>
> Now that's screwed up.
.....
[URL]http://www.pgil-eirdata.org/html/pgil_datasets/authors/k/Kavanagh%2CPatrick/xtract.htm[/URL] Im afraid thats the only link I could find, and its not paragraphed ..at all. lol. oh well.
anyway.
so...loving your partner more than your parents is....screwed up? Um...I hope you realise that your situation is pretty unusual. Im not saying you shouldnt feel like that..but Im just asking you to give all those billions of couples in the world the benefit of the doubt. You come across to me as one of a dying breed of sexually repressed ...for want of a much better, kinder word, mothers boys. The kind of stereotype who cant do anything without asking 'mother' first. I dont mean to be harsh, but thats what Im getting.
>Fozz wrote:
>> You canttell me thats not real. thats not dillusion.
>Yes it is.
wow..... thanks a lot. that really makes me feel incredibly great about my love life. Let me rephrase that. you can tell me its a dillusion, I just wont listen cos I know the truth.
>>and if you love your mom more than your dad does that pretty screwed up.
>It is typical, that's all.
its typical eh? so how many other people here feel the same way?
> That's not an excuse. I'll put it in another way: Let's suppose a
> mother had 6 kids, is it a common thing that she would throw away the
> stupid ones, and only keep the smart ones ? Even mothers who have
> mentally retarded children still love them.
WHY would a mother do that? thats not an argument. Sometimes parents will get abortions and put their kids in orphanages but rarely. I dont understand why people would do that. There is a strong maternal bond with your own bloodline, however sometimes couples feelings change over time, or they realise they werent in love after all. You can unconditionally love your parents and sibblings, even friends. When people are really in love the unconditionally love their spouse too.
> You must be a pretty miserable person.
>
> If we just pretend for a minute that you did have a girlfriend and
> that you did decide to get married, you would have more love and
> respect for your mother and your friends than you would for her?
>
> Also, you say that you should be willing to die for your mother and
> your friends...surely your wife/partner IS your friend too? Saying
> otherwise is just stupid.
That's my point exactly. I don't have a girlfriend, and I'm not going to have one, so I'll never get married.
eye'Aoe wrote:
> homosh wrote:
> Love exists eh? well thats a relief. lol. Id be interested to know
> more about this sceintific proof.
>
> There is no scientific proof.
>
> Actually there is.
>
> *ahem*
Prove it then.
Fozz wrote:
> homosh, you remind me of Patrick McGuire, from Patrick Kavanaghs poem
> "the great hunger". Basicly in Ireland in the 40's and
> before what happened was sons wouldnt get married until their mothers
> were dead, cos it was their duty to take care of them. So McGuire
> gave up the life of love and convinced himself he wouldnt need it and
> lived a really sad life, JUST cos his mother was alive.
> [URL]http://www.pgil-eirdata.org/html/pgil_datasets/authors/k/Kavanagh%2CPatrick/xtract.htm[/URL]
> Im afraid thats the only link I could find, and its not paragraphed
> ..at all. lol. oh well.
>
> anyway.
>
> so...loving your partner more than your parents is....screwed up?
> Um...I hope you realise that your situation is pretty unusual. Im not
> saying you shouldnt feel like that..but Im just asking you to give
> all those billions of couples in the world the benefit of the doubt.
> You come across to me as one of a dying breed of sexually repressed
> ...for want of a much better, kinder word, mothers boys. The kind of
> stereotype who cant do anything without asking 'mother' first. I dont
> mean to be harsh, but thats what Im getting.
No, don't get me wrong. You think my mother is one of the mothers who keep bossing their sons.Actually the relationship between us is unique. I know she is wiser than me, so I always ask her for advice myself. sometimes she even asks me what to do when she has problems. It's like friendship multiplied by 10000.
> >Fozz wrote:
> >You canttell me thats not real. thats not dillusion.
>
> >Yes it is.
> wow..... thanks a lot. that really makes me feel incredibly great
> about my love life. Let me rephrase that. you can tell me its a
> dillusion, I just wont listen cos I know the truth.
The love of your life ? Get real.
> >>and if you love your mom more than your dad does that pretty
> screwed up.
>
> >It is typical, that's all.
>
> its typical eh? so how many other people here feel the same way?
Why would I care ? Nobody is perfect. Even me. And even you.
Fozz wrote:
> homosh wrote:
> That's not an excuse. I'll put it in another way: Let's suppose a
> mother had 6 kids, is it a common thing that she would throw away
> the
> stupid ones, and only keep the smart ones ? Even mothers who have
> mentally retarded children still love them.
>
> WHY would a mother do that? thats not an argument. Sometimes parents
> will get abortions and put their kids in orphanages but rarely
That's strange, I have never heard about anything like that, maybe it happens in the U.k, but it never happens here.
> I dont understand why people would do that. There is a strong maternal
> bond with your own bloodline, however sometimes couples feelings
> change over time, or they realise they werent in love after all. You
> can unconditionally love your parents and sibblings, even friends.
> When people are really in love the unconditionally love their spouse
> too.
Which just proves me correct. Friends can lose their love, lovers can lose their love, but a mother can never do that.
> That's my point exactly. I don't have a girlfriend, and I'm not going
> to have one, so I'll never get married.
Yeah, that's what I used to think when I was 7 too.