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Wed 03/11/04 at 22:31
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"Excommunicated"
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[URL]http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm[/URL]

Interesting
Thu 04/11/04 at 17:23
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"twothousandandtits"
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Because they are a free, Western nation who don't have policies of oppression and arming sides in various volatile countries to further their own ends.
Thu 04/11/04 at 17:03
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"f so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example - Sweden?"

I laughed at that for some reason.
Why did he just pluck Sweden out of the air?
Thu 04/11/04 at 16:59
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"twothousandandtits"
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monkey_man wrote:
> Very interesting indeed.
>
> Especially this bit: "And it all shows that the real loser is
> ... you." That made me titter a little.

I found that amusing too, put it as a credited quote in my MSN display name.
Thu 04/11/04 at 13:28
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lalakersrule wrote:
> Got me thinking, when Laden says *death to the infidel west* does he
> also include countries like Japan and Australia in that? I mean they
> support the US so surely he would want them did as well, however
> they're in the east so *in best Eric from That 70's Show voice* ermmm
> what's up with that?
>
>

This is the ting - instead of going for the West, they go for source of the evil, the USA. He does make a very interesting and at times extremely understandable argument. Trouble is, they all feel killing is the best way of getting a message across.
Thu 04/11/04 at 13:07
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How very accurate, especially this bit: "But the darkness of the black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America."
Thu 04/11/04 at 12:55
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Good read that.. can kinda see why people follow him.
Thu 04/11/04 at 12:41
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Got me thinking, when Laden says *death to the infidel west* does he also include countries like Japan and Australia in that? I mean they support the US so surely he would want them did as well, however they're in the east so *in best Eric from That 70's Show voice* ermmm what's up with that?

Don't mind me late night and too much caffeine, not a good mix :-D
Thu 04/11/04 at 12:18
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"gsybe you!"
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He makes perfectly valid points about why Islamists hate the West, and some great things about Bush/Neo-cons and US 'liberty'. Trouble is, this hatred is turned into a psychopathic need to kill the people of the west as well, and not attempt to actually make change with leaders (well, this actually is their attempt, in the killings, but as he says himself, it's kinda gone the other way. Or, arguably, US/British actions have helped Al-Quaeda, which wasn't much beforehand, turn into an ever growing Islamist power icon).

So yeah, he makes valid points. But at the same time re-iterating the fact that they're not prepared for much except to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them - whether they be US leaders or not.
Thu 04/11/04 at 09:13
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Very interesting indeed.

Especially this bit: "And it all shows that the real loser is ... you." That made me titter a little.
Thu 04/11/04 at 00:14
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So I guess he's saying that:

"The American government are as bad as me. AND THEY STARTED IT!"


The "praise to Allah" is as laughable as Bush's "with God on our side".
But he raises a good point:

When he attacked the Twin Towers and killed the civilians, we all wanted him dead. The resulting attack on Afganistan killed loads more innocent civillians but didn't touch him.

So why are we surprised that when we helped attack his people that he'd want to get us back?



Not that two wrongs make a right but it shows that America's war on Terror is as justifiable as Bin Ladens.

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