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Wed 03/11/04 at 22:31
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[URL]http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm[/URL]

Interesting
Fri 05/11/04 at 09:14
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I enjoyed that read. Certainly changes your views on him.
Fri 05/11/04 at 08:00
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SHEEPY wrote:
> What I found interesting was the fact they are as bad as each other.
> Though, to an extent Bin Laden seems to admit to this. Whilst the
> West just see themselves as the goodies and them the baddies.

Aye, that's what I thought.
Reading that, it seemed to bring out the idea that, he knows what everyone in the West thinks of him, and knows how the West see themselves - but he's making the argument that this is in a sense evil v evil, rather than ye olde good versus evil.

Reading that back, it made no real sense to me. Meh.
Thu 04/11/04 at 23:39
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He's still a gimp.
Thu 04/11/04 at 23:18
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What I found interesting was the fact they are as bad as each other. Though, to an extent Bin Laden seems to admit to this. Whilst the West just see themselves as the goodies and them the baddies.
Thu 04/11/04 at 22:37
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i'munn wrote:
> Wow.
> That almost makes his actions justifiable (but not quite).
> I can't say I agree with attacking innocent people because they
> attacked yours, but I can see where he's coming from, and he'd make a
> much better President than Bush (and Kerry) - they'd all kill
> innocent people, but at least Bin Laden can justify it, unlike Bush
> (and probably Kerry).
>
> Hmmm.

No he can't! This is the thing - both are as bad as each other, just Bin Laden puts across a much more cogent argument about the evils of Western society - a lot of which we might feel. The difference is is that he and his small band are devoted to eraidcating ANYONE from this world who don't agree with him. I feel there are injustices in the Western world - but do I blow the crap out of 'infected infidels'? No!
Thu 04/11/04 at 19:44
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Because Sweedish women rated higher than Afgan women - so they all deserve to die. Not those Fin munts.
Thu 04/11/04 at 19:17
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Blank wrote:
> Because they are a free, Western nation who don't have policies of
> oppression and arming sides in various volatile countries to further
> their own ends.

Yes.

But why not Finland?
Thu 04/11/04 at 19:02
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Wow.
That almost makes his actions justifiable (but not quite).
I can't say I agree with attacking innocent people because they attacked yours, but I can see where he's coming from, and he'd make a much better President than Bush (and Kerry) - they'd all kill innocent people, but at least Bin Laden can justify it, unlike Bush (and probably Kerry).

Hmmm.
Thu 04/11/04 at 18:41
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Ah, well there you go.

George Bush talks about God blessing him enough as well.
Thu 04/11/04 at 18:38
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The thing is, all the what seems to be 'over the top' use of 'Allah' to you, normal Westeners, isn't.

It's actually perfectly normal to say 'in-sha-allah' which means 'with the acceptance of Allah', as the English use 'hopefully'. It's just normal.

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