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"purity and chastity"

One thing that really astonishes me is the number of people who sleep around in the world today. For those of us among us who believe in the Bibile, sex outside marriage is forbidden, yet so many people, religeous and otherwise, see it their duty to have multiple sexual partners. Its only a symbol of social standing in some places in AFRICA. How can we call ourselves the civilised world when we see fit to stick our john thomas in every place we can think of. Its level with the animals, and even some of them have the decency to confine themselves to one partner. (i.e. swans)

Im not trying to push chastity and say all sexual acticity is WRONG outside marriage, but I really think that sex and similar acts are something that you should share with only someone special. The only purpose of one night stands is to get some POONTANG with whatever skank can be found on the street. (I dont mean to degrade women, I just have to write this from the male perspective, the same applies to women)

Chastity generally means that you dont do ANYTHING sexual at all outside of marraige. Personally I dont see whats wrong with a little frolic in the garden of eden if its legal, legal by the bible, and doesnt put your future in jeprody through inadvertant pregnancy. What happens if the chick you boned on a one night stand get knocked up? Its your obligation to raise the b*****d child, and wed the whench. lol. I just enjoy using biassed language. I'll stop now.

Since (as I have been informed by a good friend of mine whos a history guru) the general practise of prolific intercourse has been going on for millenia, were not really doing anything different, however if we didnt do anything different we'd still be eating leaves, not even using tools. Evolution and invention meant progress, technological and personal. Sleeping around like this means that sex isnt sacred. It becomes meaningless when you finally meet someone you marry, and all you can do is compare them to your previous partners.

I know Im on a losing side. Most of you are probably against me, but Id just like you to consider the idea of, not chastity, but, however hard it may be, not sleeping around. If you meet someone special to you, by all means, even if its not the first. At least then its actually meaningful. But having shallow, meaningless sex is....well...m**********g. YOU'LL GO BLIND SON!!

Good lord no.

If you check my posts from the night before last you'll see I was going until about 4am. Then I had to get up yesterday at about 10 to see some relatives off and make breakfast for them. So last night I slept for about 12 hours and just woke up. I'll get round to posting sometime this afternoon. (yawn)

damn!!! i sure missed out on a lot yesterday.

firstly, my faith is founded on the belief that jesus is god, ie that he was a manifestation of God as a human. therefore to worship him is to worship God. not that many of you will understand that.

I'm also sorry to say that i don't agree with the relativist view that what each person does is good for him. I believe i am right. therefore i believe that anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. that doesnt mean i go around spitting on peoples graves because they didnt brush their teeth... nor do i get involved in posts like this for that reason. i am not correcting people. i am simply making sure they understand where i stand, and if you take offence to that then thats your problem.

Marriage is talked about in 1 Corinthians and, i think 2 corinthinians and colossians. The old testament is there as a guideline (as has been said) and as a documented history of the jewish nation. it also makes prophetic references to the coming of Jesus. A lot of what Jesus and his disciples say are taken with reference from the old testament. 2 geneologies? well you learn something new every day (sarcasm). i honestly have no idea what you're talking about. And i most certainly don't understand the James quote.

The reason i try and follow Gods laws is because i believe it was one of the reasons we were created; ie to glorify Him through the way we live our lives.

I think that explains some stuff?

i am sorry fozz. i started this to back you up, not realising that i am more of an extremist than you. i really don't mean to contradict you.

lalalalala wrote:
> i must say, you guys certainly don't make a very good first impression
> lol. i'm new to this site.. and i think the way some of you treat
> each other is revolting.

SHUT UP!

What about the arguement : "If there's grass on the pitch, let's play."

Wait until the grass starts to get mown before getting your balls out for a game.

soul101 wrote:

>
> firstly, my faith is founded on the belief that jesus is god, ie that
> he was a manifestation of God as a human. therefore to worship him is
> to worship God. not that many of you will understand that.

Ah, so you're an Arian! Shame that particular heresy was stamped out in the 5th century AD. Still, over 1500 years late isn't too bad, eh?

I'm also particularly impressed with the arrogance you display; not many will understand it? Seeing as you don't even understand some of the basics of your own religion, that's a little presumptuous of you. But thanks for confirming that you're that worst of all religious types; the type who is only interested in their faith because of how special and superior it makes them feel.
>
> I'm also sorry to say that i don't agree with the relativist view
> that what each person does is good for him. I believe i am right.
> therefore i believe that anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. that
> doesnt mean i go around spitting on peoples graves because they didnt
> brush their teeth... nor do i get involved in posts like this for
> that reason. i am not correcting people. i am simply making sure they
> understand where i stand, and if you take offence to that then thats
> your problem.

Heh. And if you take offense to having your beliefs called into question, that's your problem my dear boy. Thus far, you're assuming that anyone disagreeing with you must be demanding your silence, because that's the way his mind works. You want to state your beliefs, that' A-Ok. Just don't whine quite so much when they're not unquestioningly accepted as the unvarnished truth.

>
> Marriage is talked about in 1 Corinthians and, i think 2
> corinthinians and colossians. The old testament is there as a
> guideline (as has been said) and as a documented history of the
> jewish nation. it also makes prophetic references to the coming of
> Jesus. A lot of what Jesus and his disciples say are taken with
> reference from the old testament.

Heh. So we don't have to use the Old Testament, but the New Testament is referenced from the Old. Which is now obsolete. Don't you find that at all contradictory?

> 2 geneologies? well you learn
> something new every day (sarcasm).

Heh. I suggest you attempt to read that book you're placing so much stock in. Perhaps then you can replace that sarcasm with a little humility? I believe that Jesus chappy mentioned humility once or twice...

First let us look at an example where a verse in the Old Testament contradicts that in the Old. Luke, in his genealogical tree of Jesus mentioned that Shelah was the grandson of Arphaxad:

Luke 3:35-36 ...the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad,...

But this is explicitly contradicted by Genesis:[6]

Genesis 10:24 Arphaxad became the father of Shelah...


In other words, 2 contradictory genealogies. So in your case, you do indeed learn something. Or you would if you actually bothered to read the bible, eh? Wouldn't it be nice if the 'prophetic' statements actually agreed with the ones in the New Testament?




> i honestly have no idea what
> you're talking about. And i most certainly don't understand the James
> quote.

Am I to understand that you're boasting of your own ignorance? Wow...

Anyway, the James quote is stating that God is always right; there is no variation on what He says, cos when He speaks it is always 100% correct. Yet you're saying that, in Romans, God says that he wasn't quite correct with the Old Testament, and the New Testament should be referred to instead. In other words, God varies what he says. In direct contradiction to what we are told in James.

Should a fundamentalist like you be more aware of the fundamentals of his own religion?

>
> The reason i try and follow Gods laws is because i believe it was one
> of the reasons we were created; ie to glorify Him through the way we
> live our lives.

Yet you're happy to pick and choose which laws you follow, and you ignore the many and varied contradictions of the Bible by pretending they don't exist?

Incidentally, you never bothered to address the quote from Paul about only needing faith, not works, in order to praise God. Any thoughts?

>
> I think that explains some stuff?

It explains why you're being so prissy, yeah;
>
> i am sorry fozz. i started this to back you up, not realising that i
> am more of an extremist than you. i really don't mean to contradict
> you.

An extreme christian...is that like extreme sports? Anyhoo, your hollow apology aside, as has been mentioned earlier the fact that 2 christians disagree on such fundamental points kinda illustrates that there is no one true way; just varying interpretations.

ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
> What about the arguement : "If there's grass on the pitch, let's
> play."


Nah; what about porno stars who shave themselves? I'm not gonna condemn them to a life of chastity...

English_Bloke wrote:
> Wait until the grass starts to get mown before getting your balls out
> for a game.

'Starts to'?

Nah you've ruined the euphemism there.

pornO stars?

I laff. :D