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"Edgy's view on the fox hunting situation."

Well it seems a bunch of toffs who do very little to contribute to society other than allow their dogs to crap on the pavement because they're too rich to have to pick it up and dispose of it have decided that they are the only people in Britain who count and that a democracy involves attacking the government they voted in. Ironic really.
So what's this all about then? Well it seems that the final reading of the bill to ban fox hunting has been read today. A unanimous vote (as far as I am aware) by the MPs of the House of Commons has passed it and all is left is for the snobs in the House of Lords to say yay or nay. Unfortunately, they have said 'nay' the past couple of times, and so the House of Commons have threatened to use one of those ancient laws, such as being allowed to kill a man in Yorkshire on a Sunday with a bow and arrow (I wouldn't test that law if I were you...if I have quoted it right) , which allows them to overturn the ruling by the House of Lords which in this case would result in a complete ban on fox hunting.

This news has caused a huge minority of people large enough to be beaten off by those paid to protect democracy in their flourescant uniforms brandishing truncheons. Right this minute (at time of writing), plenty of homes throughout the UK are left unprotected as a large mob of toffs have stormed London hoping to change the situation by means of violence and terrorism. This I'll get back to.

So what is fox hunting?

Fox hunting is what some of these toffs consider a 'sport', or a means of recreation. Others consider it a 'livelyhood', as a means of pest control. It involves a bunch of rediculously dressed snobs on the back of horses blowing a horn that is hardly going to unite the people of Gondor, which commands a huge pack of dogs to chase after a defenseless animal in order to rip it to shreds. This method was used a long long time ago and is still used today. These snobby toffs still believe that this is the most humane way to control the population of foxes in the countryside. They also claim that they shoot the animals so they don't actually suffer. Is that before or after they've chased them across various distances and allowed a pack of dogs to sink their teeth into them?

That isn't the entire story though. Fox Hunting, should it be allowed to continue, should only take place on the land owned by the person who hires the hunters. However, once a fox has been spotted, the toffs don't care who's land they violate, who gets in their way, as long as they get their trophy. A dead piece of fur. Over the years there have been articles on kids being frightened incredibly by toffs trampling their horses across gardens, articles on pets being killed by the dogs, and so on. It only takes a search on the various news websites to find stories like this.

So what do the toffs say about it?

One toff on the news expressed his views along the lines of this pathetic cry for sympathy, "If fox hunting is banned, I will lose my home. I will lose my livelihood. The hounds will have to go. I'm not trained for anything else, so I will have to train to work."

Oh my! Welcome to the life the rest of us lead. We have to work for a living. We don't get to play a barbaric sport for a living. We have to take part in training and earn a real wage, as opposed to riding horses and playing fetch with a fox instead of a stick. It's not that they're afraid they'll lose their jobs. It's that they're afraid to get jobs!

So how do these toffs plan to make things go their way? They turn a peaceful protest into a mob attack. Storm the houses of parliament and think a bit of shouting is going to change the minds of those listening to the majority view of the people. I wont deny that the majority view isn't always right, but I feel that in this situation, in this democracy, the same argument that the protesters were using, again ironic, that fox hunting should be banned if only to give these toffs a reality check.

On the news today, I saw a woman with a big cut around her eye shouting, "I wasn't even protesting! A policeman did this (points to eye)! And I'm a firm believer in the law! So tell me this: What was a non-protester doing in the middle of a huge crowd of protesters outside the Houses of Parliament? Somehow I doubt she was having a picnic. And the rest of them suprised that the police hit them with their truncheons. What did they expect the police to do? Hand them boxing gloves to batter the MPs they voted in?

Overall, this shows the utter rediculous nature of the inbred toffs. They're too afraid to work, and instead of having to find some other way to play, they're forced to find jobs that aren't quite a horse-ride in the park. The majority of people in the UK want an end to this barbaric sport and all agree there are plenty of other more humane ways of handling the overwhelming fox crisis. I mean, it's getting so bad that you can't even walk the streets now incase a fox runs away from you like a scared puppy! Disgusting!

I call them 'toffs' out of anger and frustration.

I wouldn't say it has anything to do with class when it comes to my own opinion. I remember being very anti-fox hunting when we had debates about it in primary school. I've always been against cruelty to animals.

As for Blair not entering us into the Euro...he promised a referendum on the whole Euro debate in his 1997 campaign. He just hasn't bothered getting around to it because public opinion is still anti-Euro.

lalakersrule wrote:
> Balls do they, they stand for Europe if anything.

Yet Blair didn't even try to join the Euro.

This is all about left wing Labour back-benchers trying to take something away from the upper classes. There's no humanitarian morals here.

It's about time they banned it.

How would you like ot have your guts ripped out by a pack of hounds?

How can those bas**rds state that it's not cruel?

Mav wrote:

> Labour stand for the working class.


Balls do they, they stand for Europe if anything.

Why now? Why ban it now if it's really for cruelness?

Labour stand for the working class. All this is is a shot at the upper classes, or - as you like to call them - the "toffs". Hell, with that attitude, it's no wonder you support the ban.

I've listened to the points they've made, and have viewed my own. I haven't heard a single valid reason so far as to why fox hunting should be allowed to continue.

War of the classes?

Nah, that's another debate which I'd gladly get involved in.

You've got to laugh at the article in The Star today...only bought for the free CD.

It explains how these pro-hunt campaigners had their one and only moment when they got into the main chamber in The House of Commons. They could have said anything that would have made their point. Sung a protest song. Gave a message that would be spread throughout the world via all the news agencies in the world. And instead one of them shouts like a chav, *"You've messed it all up"

Wow! That's gonna make Tony Blair think. He'll have sleepless nights over that one!

*Quoted from memory

Mav wrote:
> Good lord, this isn't about cruelty to foxes, this is about penalising
> the upper classes.

All the more reason then to ban it :-D

Good lord, this isn't about cruelty to foxes, this is about penalising the upper classes. There may well be valid arguments for the ban, but they're not being heard here.

Blair has just re-ignited the class war.

Do find it quite funny the pro-hunters have suddenly come over all animal rights as they whinge what will now happen to their hounds, they will have to be destroyed.

Strange how they don't show the same sort of compassion as those same hounds rip to bits poor Mr Fox.

Hehe, I was really glad the majority of the papers didn't take the protestors side.

"You call this a democracy?" the protestors shout as the majority of British people support the ban...