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Are we living in a safer world where terrorists are cowed and beaten, too scared of US retribution to commit atrocities? Or is Dubya's "We're going to war so my friends can have more money and profits!" approach to this whole affair making the world a lot more dangerous?
Well...what do you think?
Are we living in a safer world where terrorists are cowed and beaten, too scared of US retribution to commit atrocities? Or is Dubya's "We're going to war so my friends can have more money and profits!" approach to this whole affair making the world a lot more dangerous?
Well...what do you think?
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I did not say I believed in this. Im just saying that I have read a book called the keys of Enoch. It was written by a Jewish American. Those views are what he was saying are real. He is also a promenent freamason.
He has one of the biggest growing religions in the US. If the American's are all falling for this sort of religion It is no wonder President Bush is able to declare a war on Muslims. I did also say that I threw the book as it was racist Fodder. I do not believe in any religion. But I am reading lots of Books to see where all religion is based and why people follow a religion. I am finding Religion is what is breeding a lot of racism.
He has one of the biggest growing religions in the US. If the American's are all falling for this sort of religion It is no wonder President Bush is able to declare a war on Muslims. I did also say that I threw the book as it was racist Fodder. I do not believe in any religion. But I am reading lots of Books to see where all religion is based and why people follow a religion. I am finding Religion is what is breeding a lot of racism.
Garin wrote:
> I usually have a policy not to post in this forum but I cant help but
> ask...
> Aren't you a conspiracy theorist?
Nope. I'm extremely paranoid, but I shy off from developing elaborate theories that are totally unsupported by any evidence and rely on the reader believing that a shadowy cabal of people control the world and have done since time immemorial. The main thrust of my political beliefs (that most politicians in position of power are greedy little rectal rods who got there solely because of the money of big business, and they then use that position to aid those who got them there in the first place) is fairly well supported.
Basically, when I talk about conspiracy theorists, I'm talking about the likes of those people who believe David Icke. Or the ones who point at the dollar bill and mutter of dark deeds that were hatched in Roman times. NOT people who think that politics (left and right wing) is mainly a sham these days.
Now can I ask you something; do you mean to come across in as condescending a manner as you do when you post in here, or is it accidental? That is a genuine query by the way.
> I usually have a policy not to post in this forum but I cant help but
> ask...
> Aren't you a conspiracy theorist?
Nope. I'm extremely paranoid, but I shy off from developing elaborate theories that are totally unsupported by any evidence and rely on the reader believing that a shadowy cabal of people control the world and have done since time immemorial. The main thrust of my political beliefs (that most politicians in position of power are greedy little rectal rods who got there solely because of the money of big business, and they then use that position to aid those who got them there in the first place) is fairly well supported.
Basically, when I talk about conspiracy theorists, I'm talking about the likes of those people who believe David Icke. Or the ones who point at the dollar bill and mutter of dark deeds that were hatched in Roman times. NOT people who think that politics (left and right wing) is mainly a sham these days.
Now can I ask you something; do you mean to come across in as condescending a manner as you do when you post in here, or is it accidental? That is a genuine query by the way.
Light wrote:
> I have my own views on conspiracy theorists.
I usually refrain from posting in this forum but I cant help but ask...
Aren't you a conspiracy theorist?
> I have my own views on conspiracy theorists.
I usually refrain from posting in this forum but I cant help but ask...
Aren't you a conspiracy theorist?
Light wrote:
> I have my own views on conspiracy theorists. Whilst I appreciate that
> their boundless paranoia can uncover dirty deeds (Watergate for
> example), I tend to think that it is their absolutely certainty that
> they know something that no-one else does that keeps them happy. They
> create their little theories and selectively pick facts that support
> them. Then they have the satisfaction that they know the truth and no
> one else does. Frankly, I suspect that many of them would be
> disappointed if their theories were given fair hearing because then
> everyone would know, not just the theorist himself.
I have to agree. Remember that Jon Ronson (?) book, "Them: Adventures with Extremists"? In particular, the Bohemian Grove section with Alex Jones? Jon was unimpressed with the "New World Order" theory, and suggested it was just a group of politicians and mates having a massive p!ssup, whereas Jones was terrified and convinced shadowy goings on were happening involving human sacrifice.
Hilarious extents of paranoia in evidence.
[edit] Damn, thats disjointed. My head is mashed by a new brand of hayfever tablets today. Lets see what happens once I've had a drinkiepoos...........
> I have my own views on conspiracy theorists. Whilst I appreciate that
> their boundless paranoia can uncover dirty deeds (Watergate for
> example), I tend to think that it is their absolutely certainty that
> they know something that no-one else does that keeps them happy. They
> create their little theories and selectively pick facts that support
> them. Then they have the satisfaction that they know the truth and no
> one else does. Frankly, I suspect that many of them would be
> disappointed if their theories were given fair hearing because then
> everyone would know, not just the theorist himself.
I have to agree. Remember that Jon Ronson (?) book, "Them: Adventures with Extremists"? In particular, the Bohemian Grove section with Alex Jones? Jon was unimpressed with the "New World Order" theory, and suggested it was just a group of politicians and mates having a massive p!ssup, whereas Jones was terrified and convinced shadowy goings on were happening involving human sacrifice.
Hilarious extents of paranoia in evidence.
[edit] Damn, thats disjointed. My head is mashed by a new brand of hayfever tablets today. Lets see what happens once I've had a drinkiepoos...........
Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> Our dear mog here is a conspiracy theory fan. Good
> luck........................
Is he? Oh Jesus....
I have my own views on conspiracy theorists. Whilst I appreciate that their boundless paranoia can uncover dirty deeds (Watergate for example), I tend to think that it is their absolutely certainty that they know something that no-one else does that keeps them happy. They create their little theories and selectively pick facts that support them. Then they have the satisfaction that they know the truth and no one else does. Frankly, I suspect that many of them would be disappointed if their theories were given fair hearing because then everyone would know, not just the theorist himself.
>
> Our dear mog here is a conspiracy theory fan. Good
> luck........................
Is he? Oh Jesus....
I have my own views on conspiracy theorists. Whilst I appreciate that their boundless paranoia can uncover dirty deeds (Watergate for example), I tend to think that it is their absolutely certainty that they know something that no-one else does that keeps them happy. They create their little theories and selectively pick facts that support them. Then they have the satisfaction that they know the truth and no one else does. Frankly, I suspect that many of them would be disappointed if their theories were given fair hearing because then everyone would know, not just the theorist himself.
Light wrote:
> ~sigh~ Assuming you're someone other than forest fan, no he won't.
> He'd approve of your blatant lies and ignorance. Jehovah's Witnesses
> say they receive messages from aliens and now you bring in Crowley?
> What an absolute pile. Care to provide some evidence? And can you say
> anything at all to convince me you're not Mary?
Our dear mog here is a conspiracy theory fan. Good luck........................
> ~sigh~ Assuming you're someone other than forest fan, no he won't.
> He'd approve of your blatant lies and ignorance. Jehovah's Witnesses
> say they receive messages from aliens and now you bring in Crowley?
> What an absolute pile. Care to provide some evidence? And can you say
> anything at all to convince me you're not Mary?
Our dear mog here is a conspiracy theory fan. Good luck........................
mog wrote:
> Yes. They recieve teachings from them. Like Crowly did. (forest fan
> will have me burnt now).
~sigh~ Assuming you're someone other than forest fan, no he won't. He'd approve of your blatant lies and ignorance. Jehovah's Witnesses say they receive messages from aliens and now you bring in Crowley? What an absolute pile. Care to provide some evidence? And can you say anything at all to convince me you're not Mary?
> Yes. They recieve teachings from them. Like Crowly did. (forest fan
> will have me burnt now).
~sigh~ Assuming you're someone other than forest fan, no he won't. He'd approve of your blatant lies and ignorance. Jehovah's Witnesses say they receive messages from aliens and now you bring in Crowley? What an absolute pile. Care to provide some evidence? And can you say anything at all to convince me you're not Mary?
mog wrote:
> I must agree with you about Bush blaming all Arabs and Muslims for
> September 11th. That is like saying every person with a beared is a
> serial killer like Peter Sutcliffe or Charles Manson. I have been
> reading about the Freamasons and the Jewish community in America.
> Apparently America is the new JerUSAlem. I was looking for a religion
> that made sence to me and someone told me to read the keys of Enoch.
> On the surface it encompases everything I was looking for to believe
> in. Ancient beliefs from Eygpt and Sumaria, all mixed up in one
> belief system. Predating Christianity and the Koran. until you look
> deeper. Apparently because the Jews were killed in world war two for
> rejecting crist 2000 years ago. The ones that survived now live in
> America and are spreading the word of Freamasonery. They want a
> freemason state. As on the dollar bills. To get this state you must
> choose the right path. The freamasons or the Muslims. Bush and
> Blair are members of the freamasons. Need I say anymore.
What on earth are you babbling about? If I were a paranoid chap, I'd say you were Mary or one of his fun-filled buddies.
Now; the Jews were killed in WWII because Hitler used them as a scapegoat for all Germany's problems. As Hitler planned to replace the Church with a more militaristic religion, I hardly think the concerns of christianity came into his thinking. The one doller bill thing is a sad and discredited conspiracy theory. The freemasons concern is the good old fashioned paranoia of the conspiracy theorist. Need you say more? Well...yes. You need to start producing some evidence rather than just making bland statements.
> I must agree with you about Bush blaming all Arabs and Muslims for
> September 11th. That is like saying every person with a beared is a
> serial killer like Peter Sutcliffe or Charles Manson. I have been
> reading about the Freamasons and the Jewish community in America.
> Apparently America is the new JerUSAlem. I was looking for a religion
> that made sence to me and someone told me to read the keys of Enoch.
> On the surface it encompases everything I was looking for to believe
> in. Ancient beliefs from Eygpt and Sumaria, all mixed up in one
> belief system. Predating Christianity and the Koran. until you look
> deeper. Apparently because the Jews were killed in world war two for
> rejecting crist 2000 years ago. The ones that survived now live in
> America and are spreading the word of Freamasonery. They want a
> freemason state. As on the dollar bills. To get this state you must
> choose the right path. The freamasons or the Muslims. Bush and
> Blair are members of the freamasons. Need I say anymore.
What on earth are you babbling about? If I were a paranoid chap, I'd say you were Mary or one of his fun-filled buddies.
Now; the Jews were killed in WWII because Hitler used them as a scapegoat for all Germany's problems. As Hitler planned to replace the Church with a more militaristic religion, I hardly think the concerns of christianity came into his thinking. The one doller bill thing is a sad and discredited conspiracy theory. The freemasons concern is the good old fashioned paranoia of the conspiracy theorist. Need you say more? Well...yes. You need to start producing some evidence rather than just making bland statements.
lalakersrule wrote:
> That's my point though, they're criticised when they go storming in
> trying to fix everything with bombs and more bombs,
I think saying they're trying to fix things in Iraw is pushing it a bit. The balkans conflict was different; yeah, they got some criticism from the anti americans, but generally the intervention was recognised as a good thing. No such recognition here...
> yet when they say
> *actually no we can't be bothered to go into that country and stop
> the attacking force there* they get get hammered for it.
Only if it was something to do with them in the first place. Which, thanks to Ronnie and Dubya's dad's policies of the 80's, it invariably is.
> Damned if
> they do and damned if they don't as they say
Then maybe the US Government should have thought better of using various 3rd world countries as proxies in their war against communism?
> That's my point though, they're criticised when they go storming in
> trying to fix everything with bombs and more bombs,
I think saying they're trying to fix things in Iraw is pushing it a bit. The balkans conflict was different; yeah, they got some criticism from the anti americans, but generally the intervention was recognised as a good thing. No such recognition here...
> yet when they say
> *actually no we can't be bothered to go into that country and stop
> the attacking force there* they get get hammered for it.
Only if it was something to do with them in the first place. Which, thanks to Ronnie and Dubya's dad's policies of the 80's, it invariably is.
> Damned if
> they do and damned if they don't as they say
Then maybe the US Government should have thought better of using various 3rd world countries as proxies in their war against communism?
The US Navy today announced that it has released a senior terrorist after questioning him extensively for 27 days while he was held prisoner aboard a US aircraft carrier in the Arabian Sea.
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