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I know everyone is fed-up with FF on this forum and about how every topic appears to gravitate towards him and his beliefs, but I have a genuine question for him.
If the Bible is all fact, as you have repeatedly claimed, then how can their be two creation stories, Genesis 1 & 2?
If the Bible is all fact, as you have repeatedly claimed, then how can their be two creation stories, Genesis 1 & 2?
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Forest Fan wrote:
> Well, they build a tower to reach God, hence the very purpose of
> religion.
No Forest, you're just wrong on this point, as Geffdof and Pandaemonium have pointed out
> Well, they build a tower to reach God, hence the very purpose of
> religion.
No Forest, you're just wrong on this point, as Geffdof and Pandaemonium have pointed out
Forest Fan wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> No, Light. It seems you are a tad confused here. Read Chapter 11 of
> Genesis again Light, that's where religion stemed from. Got it?
>
> 11:3 And they said
> one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
> And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 11:4
> And
> they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may
> reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered
> abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
>
> Thanks very much.
Mwah ha ha ha haaaa! Doesn't mention religion at all, does it? Is this another one of your interpretations?
:6 And Jehovah said, Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is what they begin to do: and now nothing will be withholden from them, which they purpose to do. 11:7 Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 11:8 So Jehovah scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off building the city. 11:9 Therefore was the name of it called Babel; because Jehovah did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did Jehovah scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."
Heh. I love it when you make an utter fool of yourself like this...
It's language dear boy, not religion.
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> No, Light. It seems you are a tad confused here. Read Chapter 11 of
> Genesis again Light, that's where religion stemed from. Got it?
>
> 11:3 And they said
> one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
> And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 11:4
> And
> they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may
> reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered
> abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
>
> Thanks very much.
Mwah ha ha ha haaaa! Doesn't mention religion at all, does it? Is this another one of your interpretations?
:6 And Jehovah said, Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is what they begin to do: and now nothing will be withholden from them, which they purpose to do. 11:7 Come, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 11:8 So Jehovah scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off building the city. 11:9 Therefore was the name of it called Babel; because Jehovah did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did Jehovah scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."
Heh. I love it when you make an utter fool of yourself like this...
It's language dear boy, not religion.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Well, they build a tower to reach God, hence the very purpose of
> religion.
You love to twist and turn don't you?
It's used as a symbol of infidelity and lack of respect towards god. Descendants of Noah intend to build a structure high enough to reach heaven. God becomes furious and gets his revenge by striking the builders with a confusion of languages, and then spreads them across the face of the earth. It’s a warning to man not to aspire to reach the levels of god, and a creation myth to explain the diversity of human language.
It has nothing to do with explaining why other religions exist.
Does it annoy you to know other people know more about your religion than you do?
> Well, they build a tower to reach God, hence the very purpose of
> religion.
You love to twist and turn don't you?
It's used as a symbol of infidelity and lack of respect towards god. Descendants of Noah intend to build a structure high enough to reach heaven. God becomes furious and gets his revenge by striking the builders with a confusion of languages, and then spreads them across the face of the earth. It’s a warning to man not to aspire to reach the levels of god, and a creation myth to explain the diversity of human language.
It has nothing to do with explaining why other religions exist.
Does it annoy you to know other people know more about your religion than you do?
Forest Fan wrote:
> Jim of Honor wrote:
> So yes, it is a contradiction in terms - one he's applying to you.
>
> Well Jim, I clearly can't believe everything Light says, if he
> contradicts himself can I?
You can't believe anything anyone says if you're this stupid.
He's calling YOU a hypocritical, contradictory, pusillanimous boy, don't you see?
That's the contradiction - not one in his argument, you are the contradiction.
Light is saying that you have called for everyone to take the Bible literally, but then you apparently don't do so yourself, instead offering your own interpretations, not taking the passages at face value as you have demanded.
> Jim of Honor wrote:
> So yes, it is a contradiction in terms - one he's applying to you.
>
> Well Jim, I clearly can't believe everything Light says, if he
> contradicts himself can I?
You can't believe anything anyone says if you're this stupid.
He's calling YOU a hypocritical, contradictory, pusillanimous boy, don't you see?
That's the contradiction - not one in his argument, you are the contradiction.
Light is saying that you have called for everyone to take the Bible literally, but then you apparently don't do so yourself, instead offering your own interpretations, not taking the passages at face value as you have demanded.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Light wrote:
> I'll tell you. Just as soon as you explain why you've been offering
> your own interpretation of biblical passages instead of taking it
> literally like you say everyone should.
>
> Light -- you are the one who likes to call me a fundamentalist. A
> contradicition in terms, I may persume?
No. You're the one who has said that you believe the bible literally. That makes you a fundamentalist. So it's not a contradiction.
So; answer the question, you cowardly little slug.
> Light wrote:
> I'll tell you. Just as soon as you explain why you've been offering
> your own interpretation of biblical passages instead of taking it
> literally like you say everyone should.
>
> Light -- you are the one who likes to call me a fundamentalist. A
> contradicition in terms, I may persume?
No. You're the one who has said that you believe the bible literally. That makes you a fundamentalist. So it's not a contradiction.
So; answer the question, you cowardly little slug.
Sorry FF but Genesis 11 is about where language comes from.
11 verse 9 says: The City was called Babylon, because there the LORD mixed up the language of all of the people, and from there he scattered them all over the world.
Anyway, how would you explain more recent religions like Islam? That came hundreds of years later.
11 verse 9 says: The City was called Babylon, because there the LORD mixed up the language of all of the people, and from there he scattered them all over the world.
Anyway, how would you explain more recent religions like Islam? That came hundreds of years later.
Well, they build a tower to reach God, hence the very purpose of religion.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> No, Light. It seems you are a tad confused here. Read Chapter 11 of
> Genesis again Light, that's where religion stemed from. Got it?
>
> 11:3 And they said
> one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
> And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 11:4
> And
> they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may
> reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered
> abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
>
> Thanks very much.
Yeah, thats the tower of Babel alright. And where does it say anything about religion? "And let us make us a name" is in relation to the name of the tower. Babel.
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> No, Light. It seems you are a tad confused here. Read Chapter 11 of
> Genesis again Light, that's where religion stemed from. Got it?
>
> 11:3 And they said
> one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
> And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 11:4
> And
> they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may
> reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered
> abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
>
> Thanks very much.
Yeah, thats the tower of Babel alright. And where does it say anything about religion? "And let us make us a name" is in relation to the name of the tower. Babel.
Jim of Honor wrote:
> So yes, it is a contradiction in terms - one he's applying to you.
Well Jim, I clearly can't believe everything Light says, if he contradicts himself can I?
> So yes, it is a contradiction in terms - one he's applying to you.
Well Jim, I clearly can't believe everything Light says, if he contradicts himself can I?
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> No, Light. It seems you are a tad confused here. Read Chapter 11 of
> Genesis again Light, that's where religion stemed from. Got it?
>
> 11:3 And they said
> one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
> And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 11:4 And
> they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may
> reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered
> abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Thanks very much.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> No, Light. It seems you are a tad confused here. Read Chapter 11 of
> Genesis again Light, that's where religion stemed from. Got it?
>
> 11:3 And they said
> one to another, Come, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly.
> And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 11:4 And
> they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may
> reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered
> abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Thanks very much.
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