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Tue 01/06/04 at 12:34
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Post your top genuine (i.e. no Blazin' Squad, Nickelback, Fred Durst or Atomic Kitten) musical geniuses. Mine, you ask? Sure:

Frank Sinatra:
Not the most powerful of singers, but it didn't matter what he sang it sounded damn good. Oozed cool.

Kurt Cobain:
Master of the pop-punk, quiet-loud, 3-chord melody. Blew his talented brains out, but rumour was that he wanted to do more 'poppy' numbers without the 'punk', so maybe it was for the best.

Stevie Wonder:
This fella *is* music. Give him the crappy Casio Bossa Nova you got for Christmas 1988, and he'll give you a hit in return. Just when you think his songs are about to get all wussy, they change into hardcore funk and hook you further. Blind too, which is even more amazing.

Freddie Mercury:
How such a small man could have had such a powerful voice is beyond me - a true talent, and one of my favourite all time singers.

Mozart:
Whether you realise it or not, you know a Mozart tune. Pretty damn enjoyable stuff, even if it is stuffy old classical music. Check out the film "Amadeus" - it's a hoot, and you get to hear loads of his music.
Tue 01/06/04 at 16:07
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> Maybe a better question - what makes a musical genius?

I'd like to answer that if I may, monsieur snuggly. A musical genius, as with any genius, is someone who has the ability to perform a difficult task incredibly well, with minimum effort, where others would require much more time and work to complete it.

In the case of musical genius, I find it is the ability to be dynamic - to constantly and seamlessly change your style to accomodate both the style at the time, and your own personal goals and preference.

that's why losers like Britney Spears, who only have one style that they can do well, will die out in no time. People quickly grow bored of music that sounds the same, record after record, and as the bint has no real talent, she is unable to adapt to new styles.

You mention Michael Jackson, well he is a genius yes. Sure he's a freak, but most geniuses are 'eccentric'. they say true genius contains a small measure of insanity. Just look at the arty types like Jacko, Bjork, Prince, Tori Amos etc - they're not exactly right in the head, or so it would seem. Beethoven was also said to be a bit of a loon, and side-stepping into the art world, van gogh was a few cans short of a six pack.

so in conclusion, if you're a genius, chances are you're a bit mental, but being a bit mental doesn't make you a genius.

:D
Tue 01/06/04 at 16:05
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Slash = genius.
Tue 01/06/04 at 16:00
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> heard a decent Prince song in ten years (except for BatDance).

You've clearly not been listening, how can you neglect any song off the Gold Experience? Particularly "I Hate U". Batdance was 15 years ago.
Tue 01/06/04 at 15:55
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I was gonna say Michael Jackson, but to look at him now, you wouldn't really call him a genius, would you? Most of his early stuff (ie. the good stuff) was produced by Quincy Jones, he's probably the genius behind him.

There's loads of people that I would call geniuseses but doubt everyone else would agree, for example, everything DJ Shadow touches turns to gold and there's never been a Supergrass song I haven't loved.

Maybe a better question - what makes a musical genius? It can't just be popularity, otherwise dolts like Puff Daddy and Robbie Williams would be mentioned in the same breath. Everlasting talent? Haven't heard a decent Prince song in ten years (except for BatDance). You wouldn't call Noel Gallagher a genius but there's no doubt he changed the face of British music forever.
Tue 01/06/04 at 15:55
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Okey Doke :

The Beatles - Enough said

Oasis - My favourite Indie band, perhaps my favourite band full stop.

Alan Silvestri (Film Composer) - responsible for some of the most emotive and memorable film scores, such as Cast Away, Forrest Gump, The Abyss, Predator 1 + 2, Contact, Back to the Future trilogy etc.

Massive Attack - oh yes, not heard a bad track from them. their ability to jump between musical genres and styles seamlessly is admirable.

Philip Glass (Film Composer) - responsible for the stunning soundtracks from the sublime "Powaqqatsi", "Koyaanisqatsi" and "Naqoyqatsi" musical filmpieces, aswell as most of the soundtrack to the truman show.

Bob Marley - nothing better than a bit of bob.

the prodigy - what's this doing in here? sorry, too many good memories :D
Tue 01/06/04 at 15:47
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I certainly shouldnt have forgotten about Bob Marley or James Brown.

Bob Marley
I think some of what he writes is lost on those of us who arent rastafarian or jamaican, there is a lot of history in what he sings and it takes a great communicator to get his point across, he had a great way with words, and there still isnt anyone creating reggae as good 20 years after he died.

James Brown
A great producer, he has ideas and you get the feeling you are listening to exactly what he wanted.
A very powerful voice and some seriously funky tunes.

Phil spector
I hate him, he is a pr*ck, but he has written and produced some of the greatest songs ever made despite being a lunatic, he wrote Be My Baby, he was always going to be included in my list.

Carole King
I dont like her voice, but as a writer she is almost untouchable, deservedly regarded as the greatest female song writer ever by just about evert music magazine, it will be easier for me to just show you what she has wrote.

One fine day
Will you love me tommorow
I feel the earth move
You make me feel like a natural woman
Youve got a friend
It's too late
Home again
Up on the roof
Tue 01/06/04 at 15:20
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Prince (for all the same reasons as Stevie Wonder with the added bonus of he hasn't lost it)
Tue 01/06/04 at 15:13
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Stevie Wonder
Probably the most musically talented person on the planet, No only a awesome voice but an ability to seemingly play any instrument he wants to plus his writing just makes him untouchable.

Bob Dylan
It takes someone special to do what he did, he turned up with a completely different way of doing things, and to go to a folk show and use an electric guitar, well it nearly backfired on him but he's been proved right all along, A great social commentator.

Beethoven
I admit that i dont listen to classical music very much but i've loved everything i've heard from him.

As for other people who have been mentioned on here, michael jackson would be nowhere without quincy jones.
Leonard cohen i've heard a lot about, all good, supposedly a real romantic lyricyst with a bite.
John lennon i love but no, i admire what he did, and it's so sad that he was killed when he was finally happy, just listen to early recordings he's always got a point, it was nice to see the bitter lennon dissappear on Double Fantasy, he had finally sorted out his priorities.
Tue 01/06/04 at 15:11
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More for the list who haven't yet been mentioned. Basically, some of my favourite guitarists. :)

Tony Iommi
Jimmy Page
Eddie van Halen
Richie Blackmore
Kirk Hammet

Honorary mention: Brian Tatler, Glenn Tipton.
Tue 01/06/04 at 14:58
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monkey_man wrote:
> Clazon wrote:
> monkey_man wrote:
> The sagacious one wrote:
> Leonard Cohen.
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> Spock?
>
> Nimoy is that Leonard.
>
> Know he who is I did really. Joke funny ha ha ha.

KO ahhh. am slow i.

*stops talking like idiot*

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