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The bible was written a long time ago and was used as a way of controlling people. Ordinary people were scared of this thing known as God because they did not understand death. We still do not understand death but at least we understand life a little better.
God was used to explain the unexplainable but now we understand some of the unexplainable. We no longer need God like our ancesters. All we need is hope...
Human nature is destruction and the only thing that we should hope for is that we do not destroy the beautiful planet on which we live. We do not deserve the gifts we have but maybe one day we will be truely gateful for them...
God was used to explain the unexplainable but now we understand some of the unexplainable. We no longer need God like our ancesters. All we need is hope...
Human nature is destruction and the only thing that we should hope for is that we do not destroy the beautiful planet on which we live. We do not deserve the gifts we have but maybe one day we will be truely gateful for them...
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I don't see any planets named 'God' or 'Jesus' or 'Holy Spirit' or 'Moses'.
Forest Fan wrote:
> FFF, do you want me to take you seriously?
Do what you want - they're my beliefs and I'd rather you didn't laugh at them while believing something even more rediculous at the same time.
How dare you be so insulting to others.
> FFF, do you want me to take you seriously?
Do what you want - they're my beliefs and I'd rather you didn't laugh at them while believing something even more rediculous at the same time.
How dare you be so insulting to others.
Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> If 2/3rds of the world decided to follow the viking religion at some
> point in the future, then that religions creation myth would be the
> acceptd one.
God yeah! And at least there's was more fun; I'd have a lot more time for a vicar saying "And lo, did Thor and Odin slay their father. And from his teeth, they made mountains. From his blood, the sea. His brains were fashioned into clouds, and his flesh into the land. His fingernails did become cliffs". Norse myths are ace fun.
Oh, and Forest Fan you penile wart on the old chap of life; why d'you think Islam refers to Christians and Jews as "peoples of the book"? Because (are you paying attention) they ALL have the old testament in common. Your rather hokey mewling about how "they just copied" is rather desperate. Especially as you belong to an obscure cult who's history is measured in decades, not centuries.
>
> If 2/3rds of the world decided to follow the viking religion at some
> point in the future, then that religions creation myth would be the
> acceptd one.
God yeah! And at least there's was more fun; I'd have a lot more time for a vicar saying "And lo, did Thor and Odin slay their father. And from his teeth, they made mountains. From his blood, the sea. His brains were fashioned into clouds, and his flesh into the land. His fingernails did become cliffs". Norse myths are ace fun.
Oh, and Forest Fan you penile wart on the old chap of life; why d'you think Islam refers to Christians and Jews as "peoples of the book"? Because (are you paying attention) they ALL have the old testament in common. Your rather hokey mewling about how "they just copied" is rather desperate. Especially as you belong to an obscure cult who's history is measured in decades, not centuries.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Islam was written hundreds of years after the Bible. Many of the
> verses are simply based on other original Biblical verses, like in
> this example.
Yeah, and if the increase in numbers overtakes christianity then their creation myth may well be taken as the "true" myth is all I'm pointing out.
If 2/3rds of the world decided to follow the viking religion at some point in the future, then that religions creation myth would be the acceptd one.
> Islam was written hundreds of years after the Bible. Many of the
> verses are simply based on other original Biblical verses, like in
> this example.
Yeah, and if the increase in numbers overtakes christianity then their creation myth may well be taken as the "true" myth is all I'm pointing out.
If 2/3rds of the world decided to follow the viking religion at some point in the future, then that religions creation myth would be the acceptd one.
Islam was written hundreds of years after the Bible. Many of the verses are simply based on other original Biblical verses, like in this example.
The Bible
"but just as it is written,
"THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD,
AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN,
ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM." 1 Corinthians 2:9
The Qur'an
"In Paradise there are things which no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no human mind has thought of."
There are many verses in the Qur'an like this, loosely based on the Bible.
The Bible
"but just as it is written,
"THINGS WHICH EYE HAS NOT SEEN AND EAR HAS NOT HEARD,
AND which HAVE NOT ENTERED THE HEART OF MAN,
ALL THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM." 1 Corinthians 2:9
The Qur'an
"In Paradise there are things which no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no human mind has thought of."
There are many verses in the Qur'an like this, loosely based on the Bible.
Forest Fan wrote:
> I cannot understand your wording or points. "another
> religions"? Sorry to be petty, but I can't see your point.
Yes you do.
You are saying the greek creation myth is untrue. I am pointing out that just because *you* believe in the christian creation myth, all others are false.
I.e.
Islam
The account in the Qur'an has only one creation story. It is based on the Biblical version (Man created from water: Surah al-Furqan 25; Man created in diverse stages: Surah Nuh 14; Man created from clay: Surah as-Saffat 11, Surah al-Sajdah 7-9; Man created from muddy dirt or scum: Surah al-Hijr 15)
Why doesn't this one have as much validity as yours? After all, it may well be the common belief in the future as islam is rapidly gaining in numbers.
> I cannot understand your wording or points. "another
> religions"? Sorry to be petty, but I can't see your point.
Yes you do.
You are saying the greek creation myth is untrue. I am pointing out that just because *you* believe in the christian creation myth, all others are false.
I.e.
Islam
The account in the Qur'an has only one creation story. It is based on the Biblical version (Man created from water: Surah al-Furqan 25; Man created in diverse stages: Surah Nuh 14; Man created from clay: Surah as-Saffat 11, Surah al-Sajdah 7-9; Man created from muddy dirt or scum: Surah al-Hijr 15)
Why doesn't this one have as much validity as yours? After all, it may well be the common belief in the future as islam is rapidly gaining in numbers.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> I know, just as you pointed out the myth of that Greek Creation
> story,
> I felt it right to point out the myth of Evolution too.
>
> Which are totally unrelated.
>
> Why should your creation myth, simply because *you* believe in it be
> true, whereas another religions (Islam isn't far behind, so what
> happens when their numbers are greater than yours? Does their
> creation myth become "true"?) be false?
I cannot understand your wording or points. "another religions"? Sorry to be petty, but I can't see your point.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> I know, just as you pointed out the myth of that Greek Creation
> story,
> I felt it right to point out the myth of Evolution too.
>
> Which are totally unrelated.
>
> Why should your creation myth, simply because *you* believe in it be
> true, whereas another religions (Islam isn't far behind, so what
> happens when their numbers are greater than yours? Does their
> creation myth become "true"?) be false?
I cannot understand your wording or points. "another religions"? Sorry to be petty, but I can't see your point.
Forest Fan wrote:
> I know, just as you pointed out the myth of that Greek Creation story,
> I felt it right to point out the myth of Evolution too.
Which are totally unrelated.
Why should your creation myth, simply because *you* believe in it be true, whereas another religions (Islam isn't far behind, so what happens when their numbers are greater than yours? Does their creation myth become "true"?) be false?
> I know, just as you pointed out the myth of that Greek Creation story,
> I felt it right to point out the myth of Evolution too.
Which are totally unrelated.
Why should your creation myth, simply because *you* believe in it be true, whereas another religions (Islam isn't far behind, so what happens when their numbers are greater than yours? Does their creation myth become "true"?) be false?
I know, just as you pointed out the myth of that Greek Creation story, I felt it right to point out the myth of Evolution too.
Forest Fan wrote:
> And for the Great Evolution Myth,
>
> Part 2 [URL]http://members.aol.com/twarren11/evolve2.html[/URL]
Who said anything about evolution? I'm simply pointing out that FFF was talking about the Greek creation myth.
[edit] After reading a small amount of the ridiculous ideas in those links, I've came to the conclusion that faith in creationism is nothing more that people wanting simple and easily digestable answers. Science tests, and suggests reasons even though we don’t have all the answers. Religion has it wrapped up nicely in a nice simple, easy to digest parcel.
Seriously, what’s the problem with the idea of space (or “Outer Space as they call it” from those links) being infinite. Just because we can’t comprehend it doesn’t make it untrue. With religion, its “Space is heaven, and it’s finite”. Nice and easy. Don’t question, sit and accept our explanation like a good little boy.
Before you start with evolution again, let me ask you this.
Why are there not serious and ongoing investigations into creationism in the scientific community if there was even the slightest possibility that it were true?
> And for the Great Evolution Myth,
>
> Part 2 [URL]http://members.aol.com/twarren11/evolve2.html[/URL]
Who said anything about evolution? I'm simply pointing out that FFF was talking about the Greek creation myth.
[edit] After reading a small amount of the ridiculous ideas in those links, I've came to the conclusion that faith in creationism is nothing more that people wanting simple and easily digestable answers. Science tests, and suggests reasons even though we don’t have all the answers. Religion has it wrapped up nicely in a nice simple, easy to digest parcel.
Seriously, what’s the problem with the idea of space (or “Outer Space as they call it” from those links) being infinite. Just because we can’t comprehend it doesn’t make it untrue. With religion, its “Space is heaven, and it’s finite”. Nice and easy. Don’t question, sit and accept our explanation like a good little boy.
Before you start with evolution again, let me ask you this.
Why are there not serious and ongoing investigations into creationism in the scientific community if there was even the slightest possibility that it were true?
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