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Fate?
Do you believe that there is a reason for your continued living? I do. Not because of some religious teachings or fanciful message from God, because I have had an experience that changed my thinking permanently. Almost a year ago, on the same day as my end of school prom, I climbed a gate to take a shortcut home with some friends. It was a fence I’d cut over plenty of times before without a hitch but this time I got my shoe caught and fell head first onto the concrete floor below. Unfortunately for me I wasn’t knocked unconscious but lay bleeding in a state of wretched agony, and I well and truly thought my number was up.
I was taken to hospital and had my head x-rayed, they thought that falling at least 9 feet I would have some damage to my skull – nothing. Ordinarily a head injury patient would have to spend a few days in hospital recovering and having their progress monitored. I was out within a couple of hours.
The chances of my dying from a 9-foot fall and landing on my head were 60% - mostly the odds of my neck being broken and the oxygen supply to my brain being severed were what should have killed me, there was also a chance that my skull could have cracked and fragments of bone could have penetrated my brain. Then there is the odds of brain damage – surviving an accident like that is 40%, surviving without any sort of brain damage or long term side effect is very small. The impact alone was enough to be able to render my brain damaged, the blood loss from my head could have deadened nerves in my face and brain leaving me with memory loss or the inability to perform certain functions, the impact on my head could have crushed my cheekbones and also punctured my eyeball. But I’m fine.
The thing is, I didn’t even need stitches, just a few sterilised bandages over the cut and some facial swelling. The changes of me coming out of the incident totally fine, besides a small scar, are in the single figure percentages – not favourable odds for me.
Before the incident I thought life just ‘was’, but it changed my perspective of things entirely. We’re all here for a reason, our aim is to find out what.
Do you believe that there is a reason for your continued living? I do. Not because of some religious teachings or fanciful message from God, because I have had an experience that changed my thinking permanently. Almost a year ago, on the same day as my end of school prom, I climbed a gate to take a shortcut home with some friends. It was a fence I’d cut over plenty of times before without a hitch but this time I got my shoe caught and fell head first onto the concrete floor below. Unfortunately for me I wasn’t knocked unconscious but lay bleeding in a state of wretched agony, and I well and truly thought my number was up.
I was taken to hospital and had my head x-rayed, they thought that falling at least 9 feet I would have some damage to my skull – nothing. Ordinarily a head injury patient would have to spend a few days in hospital recovering and having their progress monitored. I was out within a couple of hours.
The chances of my dying from a 9-foot fall and landing on my head were 60% - mostly the odds of my neck being broken and the oxygen supply to my brain being severed were what should have killed me, there was also a chance that my skull could have cracked and fragments of bone could have penetrated my brain. Then there is the odds of brain damage – surviving an accident like that is 40%, surviving without any sort of brain damage or long term side effect is very small. The impact alone was enough to be able to render my brain damaged, the blood loss from my head could have deadened nerves in my face and brain leaving me with memory loss or the inability to perform certain functions, the impact on my head could have crushed my cheekbones and also punctured my eyeball. But I’m fine.
The thing is, I didn’t even need stitches, just a few sterilised bandages over the cut and some facial swelling. The changes of me coming out of the incident totally fine, besides a small scar, are in the single figure percentages – not favourable odds for me.
Before the incident I thought life just ‘was’, but it changed my perspective of things entirely. We’re all here for a reason, our aim is to find out what.
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If you wanted Jesus you would have to ask Him into your life.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Flockhart wrote:
> You have your belief's and we have our's, we attack your's,
> you attack our's.
> We will not be converted by anyone other than ourselves, when we
> want
> religion we will look for it.
> You have made your point, we have listened, and we chose to ignore
> you, now can you let it drop because it is getting tiring.
>
> You have to find Jesus, religion finds you.
I don't have to do anything.
> Flockhart wrote:
> You have your belief's and we have our's, we attack your's,
> you attack our's.
> We will not be converted by anyone other than ourselves, when we
> want
> religion we will look for it.
> You have made your point, we have listened, and we chose to ignore
> you, now can you let it drop because it is getting tiring.
>
> You have to find Jesus, religion finds you.
I don't have to do anything.
Hmmm. You say 'We're all here for a purpose, just we have to find out what'.
Well, fate aside, I disagree with that. Our purpose is simply to propagate the human race - anything more than that is simply our brains being allowed time to create things that aren't neccessary for survival.
'The Meaning Of Life' always seems to me like a silly question - what meaning? Reproduce and make more humans? You don't have a meaning, you make a meaning - and even then (eg, I'm a rock star, and my meaning, or rather 'purpose' is to entertain my fans. That is my 'meaning') it does not override your basic instincts - which ultimatly dominate us, if one was really put down to ther 'test'.
Fate. Well. We're all set in a path and we follow it. This is an eternal question, and I don't believe in fate so much. One can say you could do anything to 'break' fate, such as suddenly flying to the Bahamas, when in fact all you are breaking is your normality - fate ordained that you would question it, and then fate ordained to challenge it, you'd fly to the Bahamas. If only...
However, it comes down to belief in this respect, I think - is it possible that fate controls every single little movement of every single little insignificant thought and action? Such as you falling 9ft and not really damaging yourself - did that happen because you are fated to make babies with an alien and become the first ever alien/human father? Or is it just because you fell in such a way that little damage was done? It's a huge, huge area - mostly in the sense that fate if 'real', would control every little aspect....
Up to each person to decide..
Well, fate aside, I disagree with that. Our purpose is simply to propagate the human race - anything more than that is simply our brains being allowed time to create things that aren't neccessary for survival.
'The Meaning Of Life' always seems to me like a silly question - what meaning? Reproduce and make more humans? You don't have a meaning, you make a meaning - and even then (eg, I'm a rock star, and my meaning, or rather 'purpose' is to entertain my fans. That is my 'meaning') it does not override your basic instincts - which ultimatly dominate us, if one was really put down to ther 'test'.
Fate. Well. We're all set in a path and we follow it. This is an eternal question, and I don't believe in fate so much. One can say you could do anything to 'break' fate, such as suddenly flying to the Bahamas, when in fact all you are breaking is your normality - fate ordained that you would question it, and then fate ordained to challenge it, you'd fly to the Bahamas. If only...
However, it comes down to belief in this respect, I think - is it possible that fate controls every single little movement of every single little insignificant thought and action? Such as you falling 9ft and not really damaging yourself - did that happen because you are fated to make babies with an alien and become the first ever alien/human father? Or is it just because you fell in such a way that little damage was done? It's a huge, huge area - mostly in the sense that fate if 'real', would control every little aspect....
Up to each person to decide..
Edgy wrote:
> I've heard that somewhere before...I can almost hear the voices
> saying it...but can't figure out what its from!
James Bond and 006 in the Facility of Goldeneye.
> I've heard that somewhere before...I can almost hear the voices
> saying it...but can't figure out what its from!
James Bond and 006 in the Facility of Goldeneye.
Nice tangent my thread took
Flockhart wrote:
> You have your belief's and we have our's, we attack your's,
> you attack our's.
> We will not be converted by anyone other than ourselves, when we want
> religion we will look for it.
> You have made your point, we have listened, and we chose to ignore
> you, now can you let it drop because it is getting tiring.
You have to find Jesus, religion finds you.
> You have your belief's and we have our's, we attack your's,
> you attack our's.
> We will not be converted by anyone other than ourselves, when we want
> religion we will look for it.
> You have made your point, we have listened, and we chose to ignore
> you, now can you let it drop because it is getting tiring.
You have to find Jesus, religion finds you.
Icaruss wrote:
> Half of everything is luck.
> And the other half? Fate.
I've heard that somewhere before...I can almost hear the voices saying it...but can't figure out what its from!
> Half of everything is luck.
> And the other half? Fate.
I've heard that somewhere before...I can almost hear the voices saying it...but can't figure out what its from!
Half of everything is luck.
And the other half? Fate.
So yeah, I partially believe in fate.
And the other half? Fate.
So yeah, I partially believe in fate.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Do you want me to accept your beliefs and just let you spend eternity
> in the Lake of Fire?
YES BLOODY YES!! PLEASE DO! POSITIVE! AFFIRMATIVE! EVERY OTHER BLEEDING WORD MEANING YES!
> Do you want me to accept your beliefs and just let you spend eternity
> in the Lake of Fire?
YES BLOODY YES!! PLEASE DO! POSITIVE! AFFIRMATIVE! EVERY OTHER BLEEDING WORD MEANING YES!
Forest Fan wrote:
> Flockhart wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Do you want me to except your beliefs and just let you spend
> eternity
> in the Lake of Fire?
>
> I want you to accept my beliefs.
>
> By making you feel better?
You have your belief's and we have our's, we attack your's,
you attack our's.
We will not be converted by anyone other than ourselves, when we want religion we will look for it.
You have made your point, we have listened, and we chose to ignore you, now can you let it drop because it is getting tiring.
> Flockhart wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Do you want me to except your beliefs and just let you spend
> eternity
> in the Lake of Fire?
>
> I want you to accept my beliefs.
>
> By making you feel better?
You have your belief's and we have our's, we attack your's,
you attack our's.
We will not be converted by anyone other than ourselves, when we want religion we will look for it.
You have made your point, we have listened, and we chose to ignore you, now can you let it drop because it is getting tiring.
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