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Sat 03/04/04 at 20:49
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Fate?

Do you believe that there is a reason for your continued living? I do. Not because of some religious teachings or fanciful message from God, because I have had an experience that changed my thinking permanently. Almost a year ago, on the same day as my end of school prom, I climbed a gate to take a shortcut home with some friends. It was a fence I’d cut over plenty of times before without a hitch but this time I got my shoe caught and fell head first onto the concrete floor below. Unfortunately for me I wasn’t knocked unconscious but lay bleeding in a state of wretched agony, and I well and truly thought my number was up.

I was taken to hospital and had my head x-rayed, they thought that falling at least 9 feet I would have some damage to my skull – nothing. Ordinarily a head injury patient would have to spend a few days in hospital recovering and having their progress monitored. I was out within a couple of hours.

The chances of my dying from a 9-foot fall and landing on my head were 60% - mostly the odds of my neck being broken and the oxygen supply to my brain being severed were what should have killed me, there was also a chance that my skull could have cracked and fragments of bone could have penetrated my brain. Then there is the odds of brain damage – surviving an accident like that is 40%, surviving without any sort of brain damage or long term side effect is very small. The impact alone was enough to be able to render my brain damaged, the blood loss from my head could have deadened nerves in my face and brain leaving me with memory loss or the inability to perform certain functions, the impact on my head could have crushed my cheekbones and also punctured my eyeball. But I’m fine.

The thing is, I didn’t even need stitches, just a few sterilised bandages over the cut and some facial swelling. The changes of me coming out of the incident totally fine, besides a small scar, are in the single figure percentages – not favourable odds for me.

Before the incident I thought life just ‘was’, but it changed my perspective of things entirely. We’re all here for a reason, our aim is to find out what.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:25
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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Flockhart wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> So according to your theology, I can go kill a load of children and
> hey, I'm sinless!
>
> Nope your conscience will punish you.
> Although isnt what you are saying exactly the same thing, if you
> accept jesus your sin's will be washed away.
> So i can kill a load of children, then accept jesus and i'm home
> free.

So according to Flockhart if I did kill a load of children and then committed suicide, I would have absolutely no punishment.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:24
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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Cyclone wrote:
> Well, that's seemed to have worked for some parts of the organised
> Christian faith....

For the Catholics maybe, but for the Protestants it's not like that.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:23
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"Monochromatic"
Posts: 18,487
Checkmate

* forest come up with move not recognised in the official rules of chess, to escape losing a argument *
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:19
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"Monochromatic"
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Forest Fan wrote:
> So according to your theology, I can go kill a load of children and
> hey, I'm sinless!

Nope your conscience will punish you.
Although isnt what you are saying exactly the same thing, if you accept jesus your sin's will be washed away.
So i can kill a load of children, then accept jesus and i'm home free.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:18
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"gsybe you!"
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Well, that's seemed to have worked for some parts of the organised Christian faith....
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:12
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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So according to your theology, I can go kill a load of children and hey, I'm sinless!
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:11
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"Monochromatic"
Posts: 18,487
Forest Fan wrote:
> Flockhart wrote:
> Flockhart wrote:
> I believe in consequence in this life, some people call it karma.
> Did i just say this life, silly me!
> There is only one life.
>
> No, there is this life upon which your eternal destination will be
> judged.

It's nice that you can believe that, i however don't.

But how do you atone for the sin, it still exists, it doesn't just disappear.

You call it sin, i call it concience morality and it dies when you die.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:04
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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Flockhart wrote:
> Flockhart wrote:
> I believe in consequence in this life, some people call it karma.
> Did i just say this life, silly me!
> There is only one life.

No, there is this life upon which your eternal destination will be judged.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:04
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
Flockhart wrote:
> I believe in consequence in this life, some people call it karma.

But how do you atone for the sin, it still exists, it doesn't just disappear.
Mon 05/04/04 at 17:02
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"Monochromatic"
Posts: 18,487
Flockhart wrote:
> I believe in consequence in this life, some people call it karma.
Did i just say this life, silly me!
There is only one life.

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