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"Are you born gay or do you 'acquire' it?"

I heard two people talking about this the other night, and was wondering what you guys thought. Is being gay in your DNA, or is it 'acquired' through your life?

So yeh, enlighten me...

And the point of quoting all of that was what, exactly?

Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
>
> I know plenty of Jewish people - who don't know Jesus as their
> saviour who know I am Jewish - in fact most people know I am Jewish
> -
> not Gentile. Yet I'm not going to start flashing their names around
> the internet - they deserve privacy.
>
> Fair enough. However, due to your aforementioned repeated lying, I
> simply do not believe you. In fact, I don't even believe that you
> know lots of jewish people. Come to think of it, beyond this board
> and your cult, I don't think you know any people.
>
> So by all means, carry on saying that Jewish people think you're
> jewish. Until you can prove this, it is dismissed as a lie.

Therefore - how can I believe anything you say? Do you want me to believe you?

Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I don't feel humiliated - but isn't all this bickering on your
> behalf
> Ø - a tad embarassing?
>
>
>
> Nope. Why on earth would I be embarrassed about predicting yesterday
> exactly what you’d say to try and weasel out of answering questions?
> Heh. Honestly, after the amount of time I’ve spent making it clear
> just what a hypocritical liar you are, d’you think that you can put
> me off by a poor attempt to make me think “Oh my God; everyone will
> think I’m being petty; I’d better leave him alone…”
>
> To clarify; this ‘bickering’ as you term it, is nothing more than
> exemplifying what a coward you are. And no, it isn’t going to stop.
>
> I'll acknowledge questions...... ...
>
>
> No you won’t. As this proved, you’ll try and get out of answering
> them by pretending you’d never seen them in the first place. The
> whole point of the ‘bickering’ was that you were using your standard
> tactic to avoid answering questions.
> It’s fairly clear that you didn’t acknowledge my catching you out
> because you don’t like it when your evasiveness and cowardice is made
> crystal clear.
>
>
>
> I was raised as a Hebrew Christian - and will always be a Hebrew
> Ø Christian.
>
> And I will ask again (because once again, you’ve avoided the
> question); what difference does the Hebrew lie you tell make? A
> Christian is a Christian. Are you implying that your false Semetic
> background makes you a better Christian?
>
>
> I know of Jewish people - they are athiests - who have never been to
> synagogue in their life - not that I've been except for a relative's
> Ø batmizvah and a wedding. So - how do you remain Jewish?
>
> They don’t. They are not practising jews, ergo they are not Jewish
> (in the sense of the Jewish faith). They are semetic people with
> Jewish family. Note that it’s only YOU calling them Jewish. As you’ve
> been proven to lie time and time again, your opinion on their
> jewishness is pretty much irrelevant. I was saying that you are
> considered a gentile. All you’ve offered in rebuttal is an abstract
> question that was easily answered. I’ll ask again; why are you
> claiming to be a Jew when you are a Christian?
>
>
> They are trying their best to follow the Old Covenant - it can't be
> Ø done, but they try their best.
>
> They do. So if you’re claiming to be Jewish, you have to do the same
> do you not? So how does this excuse your admission that you don’t?
>
>
> There are still commandments in the age of Grace. While if I fail to
> do certain practices I won't be put to death - we have to try and
> Ø follow the New Covenant as thoroughly as possible.
>
> Here was me thinking that true Grace would mean that there are no
> commandments to follow. If this is an age of Grace, we wouldn’t have
> to do anything at all would we? Yet here you are, making up
> commandments. This is either an age of Grace where no commandments
> are necessary, or it is an age of different commandments. It is not
> possible to be both. So which is it?
>
> You’re not jewish at all, are you?
>
> Ø Yes I am.
>
> Then how come you didn’t even know about kosher meat?
>
>
>
>
> You are showing that you know nothing about the background of
> Jewish.
> Ø If you can acknowledge I'm White - you can acknowledge I'm
> Jewish.
>
> The background of Jewish? Don’t you mean Judaism? Yes, I rather think
> you do. Put it this way dear boy; I’m aware of the theological
> impossibility of following both the Old and New Covenants. I’m aware
> of the commandments against consumption of blood, and the use of
> kosher food to comply with this. You are aware of none of this. All
> you’ve been able to do is say “You’re wrong and I’m right”, and offer
> no evidence as to the truth of that statement.
>
> I’m afraid that taking the “I know you are but what am I?” approach
> simply exposes how few ideas you have left to perpetuate your self
> important nonsense. Like I say; it’s obvious that you can’t remember
> which lies you’ve told.
>
>
>
> As I have already explained Jesus tells us to examine ourselves and
> be more like Him. People tried to catch Jesus out - but each time He
> knew the answers. I could catch you out, in the same way you could
> Ø catch me out, but you can never catch the scriptures out.
>
> Hahahahahaha! If you could catch me out, why haven’t you? Answer: you
> can’t. I on the other hand have caught you out time and time again,
> proving your lack of knowledge about religion, your hypocrisy, and
> your cowardice.
>
> If I can never catch the scriptures out, and if you use the
> scriptures all the time, then why am I catching you out so
> consistently?
>
>
>
>
>
> Ø They inherited their sinful nature from the fall of man.
>
> That, my dear boy, is not an answer. I asked how they inherited our
> sinful nature. All you’ve said is “They inherited it”. Answer the
> question as to HOW they inherited it; HOW the fall of man caused
> animals to inherit it. Also, answer the questions about your
> statement that there is less homosexual behaviour in the animal
> world. Coward.
>
>
> The Book of Mormon is a fictional book - which I have already
> Ø demonstrated in a previous link.
>
> Uh-uh Mr Liar; you said it was a Kids book, not a fictional book. My
> oh my…lying about what you’ve said? What a naughty little liar you
> are! Tell me; why are you lying about being caught out with your lies
> about Mormonism?
>
>
>
> Ø It's called a typo.
>
> 2 typos? Both of which refer to killing? You give away how you really
> feel about me. Now who’s the angry one Gump? I’ve said that I expect
> to turn in Jim Jones Jnr. I’ve never implied killing you. Yet you
> have to me. Not very Christian is it?
>
>
> Ø Funny - I've met so many practising Jews who consider me
> Jewish.
>
> Really? Alas, I don’t believe you. What’s more, I’ve fired off an
> email to a rabbi at my former university to ask his opinion on
> whether you’d be considered Jewish. I’ll post it when I get the
> reply, and I look forward to hearing you wail that the rabbi is wrong
> and you’re right.
>
> Yes, He knows me and He knows you. He knows everyone walking this
> earth. But not everyone knows Him.
>
>
> Nonsensical bull. I asked you directly; does he TALK to you
> personally, not whether he knows you. Answer the question. Coward.
> Ø
>
>
> I would follow the Old Covenant today - if Jesus hadn't given us the
> New Covenant. On the practical side it is no longer even possible to
> keep the Old Covenant - where as it is possible to keep the New
> Covenant.
>
> Again, more evasiveness. The Jews do not follow the new covenant.
> They follow the old. If you follow the New, then you are not a Jew.
> You are a semetic Christian. Don’t you agree that to be a jew you
> must follow the Old Covenant?
>
>
>
> I am Jewish in background - not 'religiously' as in following old
> Jewish laws of the Old Covenant. However Jewishness plays a huge
> part
> in Christianity as well as the Jewish feasts. All the feasts are
> worth remembering in particularly Passover and the Feast of
> Trumpets.
> All today remain valid feasts for Christians. Jesus was Jewish, was
> the King of the Jews - God is described as 'God of Abraham, Isaac
> and
> Jacob', where all the Hebrews stem from. Except for the two books of
> Luke and one book of Job - the entire rest of the Bible, all the
> other 63 books all have Hebrew authors. The Jews are God's chosen
> people - the eternal Heaven state will be entitled the New
> Jerusalem.
> Jesus is returning to Jerusalem - God says He will never forget
> about
> Ø Israel. Israel is the only country with an assured future.
>
>
> So despite the inclusive nature of Christianity, you’re now saying
> that being a Hebrew Christian makes you better than non-hebrew
> Christians?
> Also, when you say “jewish in background”, do you mean your family
> are jewish? If so, what portion of your family are jewish?
>
>
> They believe that to atone for sin - they must continue doing these
> rituals. This was the correct ritual back in the time of the
> Israelites under Moses and Aaron - but is not possible today, due to
> the destruction of the Temples. We live in the age of Grace today
> and
> Jews should be following the new law Jesus set out for the atonement
> Ø of sin - which is that He took it away on the cross.
>
> So that is one element of the Old Covenant that can’t be followed,
> but the remainder of it is, is it not?
> And I repeat the question; how can it be an age of Grace if we still
> have to follow arbitrary commandments? It can’t be both, so which is
> it?
>
>
> Actually Light, when you buy the meat products from your local
> Sainsbury's there is no blood on the beef or preferred meat. There
> are products that appear like blood, but in truth the meat is
> dripping in bi-products of blood - which even these are removed
> Ø before cooking.
>
> Mwah ha ha haaaa! Sorry, but you’re wrong. No, actually I’ll go
> further; you’re lying. Again. The meat has blood in it, and cooking
> to medium temperature doesn’t remove all of the blood.
> All of which doesn’t really matter; you failed to answer the question
> or even address it. I asked about kosher meat; are you now saying
> that you do eat kosher meat? Or are you saying that Jews are wrong to
> insist on kosher meat and they would be able to eat any old steak
> from Sainsbury’s?
>
>
> Animals inherited a sinful nature. Humans are above animals and as
> such we build the houses and the cities. Because we are above the
> Ø animals, they inherited our sinful nature.
>
> Nope, that doesn’t answer the question. I asked “how did animals
> inherited our sinful nature”. Saying “They inherited it” is not an
> answer. Try again.
>
>
> Nature 'inherits' not copies. 'Inherits' and 'copies' are two vastly
> different words - look them up in the dictionary if you don't
> believe
> Ø me.
>
> Which is semantics in a vain attempt to avoid addressing the
> question. You’re so desperate to be left alone, you’ll clutch at any
> straw, won’t you?
>
> Okay, I’ll rephrase it; if animals HAVE inherited our nature, then
> how can you say that anything is ‘natural’? Isn’t it impossible for
> anything to be ‘natural’ if animals inherited their nature humans? Or
> couldn’t we say that human nature is‘natural’ because, according to
> you, nature inherits its nature from us?
>
> There. Now answer it.
>
>
>
>
> Statistics. Between 11% and 12% of humans are homo-sexual, at least
> in part. This figure in the animal world is vastly smaller and the
> Ø types of animals involved is again vastly smaller.
>
> Where did you get those figures from please? Provide evidence of the
> truth of these figures, because you’ve already proved that you’ll
> tell lies and pass them off as fact. Also, you haven’t provided any
> figures for the animal kingdom. You’ve just said “There are less”.
> Give me figures please.
>
>
> If I lived three and a half thousand years ago under Mosaic law and
> lived like I do today, I would still only be cut off from the
> Ø Israelites - not a Gentile.
>
> Ah! So you do accept that, as you would have been cut off by the
> Israelites, you are not considered a Jew by them?
>
>
>
> Apart from asking the question above. God knows everyone - even you.
> Ø Yes - I have personally spoken to God.
>
> I asked HE talks to YOU. Not the other way around. Answer the
> question please.
>
>
>
> Ø By blocking them and saying 'that doesn't count as
> evidence'.
>
> How did they block them? They didn’t, did they? You’ve just told a
> lie. Again. And they didn’t just say that either. They destroyed them
> as evidence using counter arguments.
>
>
>
> I posted links to websites showing without doubt evolution breaks
> the
> second law of thermodynamics while other posted links claiming ‘it
> Ø might not’.
>
> Bull. You posted links to articles that didn’t even acknowledge that
> the 2nd law states that entropy only prevails in a closed system.
> Those articles were discredited. You’re now lying about the fact that
> they were. And again, you’re avoiding answering the question. Kindly
> do so, you very small coward.
>
>
> There are two answers to this question. One would be ‘yes’ and the
> other would be ‘no’. You have effectively said I can’t say ‘no’,
> leaving me the only option as ‘yes’. But I like to have a choice and
> Ø the answer is no.
>
> Mwah ha ha ha! I ask you to rebut the assertion. And your answer?
> “Yes”. Nope, try again and this time answer properly. Oh, that was a
> poor attempt at confusion and misdirection by the way.
>
>
> You reject God in this life – He’ll reject you in the next life. You
> don’t want God in this life – He won’t want you in the next one. By
> rejecting God and His Son Jesus – you are rejecting the gift of
> Ø Eternal Life.
>
>
> Right…so this eternal love is conditional? You’re saying that God
> only loves people who love him, is that right?
>
>
> Edgy believed I maybe Archangel – I of course are not and are no
> other Newbies. In the same way I have assured people I am not
> Ø Belldandy or any other members of SR.
>
> That’s just a cut and paste of your previous answer, and if it wasn’t
> adequate then it certainly isn’t now. The question didn’t refer to
> Edgy; it referred to a staff member and your response. Nor did the
> question ask you to deny being all these newbies. It asked you to
> explain your response. So answer the question please.
>
> ?
>
> I am Jewish and I am not ashamed of that fact. Jewishness is the
> basis for the whole Bible and the future prophecies. Why would I be
> Ø ashamed to be one of God’s chosen people?
>
> Yet in the answer to question one, you’ve said you’re jewish in
> background not in religion. Now you’re claiming to be jewish in
> religion again. You’re losing track of your lies once more…
>
> Also, Christianity rejects the jewish notion of any racial group
> being chosen. You’re now saying that Jews are chosen. Is that why you
> claim the impossibility of being a Jewish Christian? Because you want
> to be even more special than other Christians?
>
> 16. Don’t you agree that once you are a Christian, it doesn’t matter
> what your original background was as you are now Christian?
>
> Once you are a Christian – you are a Christian, yes – but it wipes
> off nothing. Since I accepted Jesus – my skin colour didn’t change –
> Ø nor did my Jewish background.
>
> And yet, in the answer to the question before this one, you say that
> Jews are the chosen of God. So that answer (that Jews are special in
> the eyes of God) directly contradicts this answer (that Christians
> are all equal).
>
>
>
> I have never eaten blood but I have eaten meat other than kosher
> Ø meat, because we no longer live in the Mosaic age.
>
> And that means you’ve eaten blood. Why do you keep denying this?

I haven't. Light - look above. You have denied every answer of mine - I don't know what your problem is, but I wouldn't deny every answer you would make - and nor would anyone else from Special Reserve for that matter. I accept your answers - it's time for you to grow up and do the same. Just because you don't agree with my answers - is no excuse to have a go at me.
>
>
> I have answered all seventeen of your questions. Phew.
>
> Ah, if only that were true. By my reckoning you have offered
> contradictory answers, lies, and bland assertions in place of
> answers. Therefore, I’m going to list the questions I now have for
> you. Quite a lot of them are the unanswered questions from my
> previous post. So, in order;
>
> 1. Don’t you agree that in order to describe oneself as being Jewish,
> one must follow the old covenant? If not, what do you think is needed
> to be Jewish?

No - because it is fundamentally impossible to follow the Old Covenant - due to the destruction of the Temple. If you believe that to be Jewish you must completely follow the Old Covenant - then there would not not be a single Jew in this world.

> 2. You mention your Jewish background; what exactly is that? How many
> of your family are Jewish or semetic?

Both parents - all four grandparents and I believe all great grandparents too.

> 3. If we live in an age of Grace, why are we still required to
> follow commandments? If we are given grace, we cannot then be asked
> to do something in return; that defies the definition of the word. So
> therefore we are EITHER living in an age of grace, OR we have to
> follow commandments. Which is it?

Salvation is NOT dependant on following commandments. Simply accepting Jesus is enough to be saved - because He is the sacrifice.

> 4. Why do you keep using the phrase “dripping in blood” when I never
> said any such thing?

Because I am clearing up what you or any other person may be thinking.

> 5. Are you implying that there is no need to eat kosher meat in order
> to fulfil the commandment on not eating blood?

There isn't.

> 6. Why are you continuing to lie about the preparation of meat in
> supermarkets, and why do you attempt to distinguish between ‘blood’
> and ‘blood products’, when the commandment covers both?

Again Light - you seem a little confused. Why don't you leave the law concerning blood to me - the Christian.

> 7. Your answer to “how did animals inherit our sinful nature” was
> “they inherited it in the fall”. That is unsatisfactory. I’d like you
> to explain HOW they inherited it in the fall.

When man sinned - nature and animals suffered as a consequence in this sinful world.

> 8. You used semantics to avoid answering my question on “what is
> natural”? So… if animals HAVE inherited our nature, then how can you
> say that anything is ‘natural’? Isn’t it impossible for anything to
> be ‘natural’ if animals inherited their nature humans? Or couldn’t we
> say that human nature is‘natural’ because, according to you, nature
> inherits its nature from us?

No.

> 9. I asked you if God has spoken to you, not if you spoke to Him. So
> answer the question; has God ever spoken to you personally.

I actually said God has spoken to me - so of course.

> 10. How exactly did the posters of this board block your pro
> creationism articles?

By posting other articles about why evolution is the dominant theory.

> 11. Are you trying to say that no argument against those pro
> creationism articles was put forward aside from “that doesn’t count
> as evidence”?

Some.

> 12. Do you acknowledge that the only time that argument was used was
> when some of the articles you posted used biblical quotation to prove
> or disprove physics?

No, I used it when articles tried to cover up the questions about the second law of thermodyamics breaking theory that is evolution.

> 13. You once again avoided answering my question concerning the
> omission of the phrase “in a closed system” from every one of your
> arguments using the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. I will ask you again;
> will you please try to rebut the example that I have used, using
> examples of your own.

Why - bother? You don't want it. If I post any article - you'll just say 'because I don't agree with it I'll write a couple of paragraphs attacking Forest Fan'. It's stupid.

> 14. I asked if you could rebut my assertion that your love of God is
> nothing more than fear. Your answer was “yes”. Yet you failed to then
> offer a rebuttal. Kindly do so.

There is not a similiarity you offered - so there was no where to start.

> 15. Please post a link to, or tell me where you got the figures for
> percentage of rates of homosexuality in humans.

In the article someone posted entitled 'gay sheep'.

> 16. You have said that homosexuality in animals is less common, but
> you have posted no figures or evidence of any kind to prove this.
> Kindly do so.

Again the number of human homo-sexuals is between 11% and 12% - vastly larger than that in the animal world.

> 17. Do you acknowledge that the reason you got torn apart over the
> book of Mormon was NOT because you said it was fictional, but because
> you said it “was originally written as a childrens book”?

It may have been written as a children's book.

> 18. Are you saying that God only loves people who love him back? If
> so, do you agree that Gods love cannot therefore be unconditional?

No - God loves EVERYONE. Which is why He sent His Son to die for EVERYONE. Including me and you.

> 19. Why did you assume that a staff member complaining about people
> posting as newbies was talking about you?

You've asked this question several times - it has been answered several times. Kindly refrain from continually posting the same question. Thankyou.

> 20. What do you mean when you say “you can never catch the scriptures
> out”? Could you provide a specific example?

Propheices contradicting each other or a historical inaccuracy.

> 21. Do you accept that by admitting that the jews of the original
> mosaic law would have cut you off, you can make no claim today of
> being a jew?

No - otherwise everyone in the world is not Jewish.

> 22. On the one hand you’re saying that you’re a Christian, and the
> Christian faith rejects the notion of a particular racial group being
> any better than another in the eyes of God. Yet on the other hand
> you’re saying that you’re a member of the chosen people of God, the
> Jews. These statements directly contradict each other, and cannot be
> simultaneously true. Which of the two statements is true, and which
> is the lie?

Jews are no better than Gentiles - just are the chosen people. Jesus was Jewish - Israel is the chosen country - the land of the Jews. And Jewish people are most influential in the Bible.

> 23. Following on from question 16, if you are saying that you are a
> Christian, you are therefore rejecting the idea that one race is
> superior to another in Gods eyes. If that is the case, why do you
> keep restating your Semetic heritage?

Because I am not ashamed to be one of God's chosen people.

> 24. Also following on from question 16, if you are saying you are a
> Jew, then you have to follow the Old Covenant, correct? Note I am not
> asking for another of your tortured misunderstandings of theology; I
> am asking IF you are a Jew then you would have to follow the Old
> Covenant. Not “Tell me what you think of the Old Covenant”.

I am Jewish. I don't follow the Old Covenant - I follow the New Covenant that the Jewish Messiah Jesus started and the Jewish disciples observed.
>
>
> I’ll expect…well, I expect more lies, evasiveness, and general
> cowardice from you in response to these, but it would be nice to
> imagine that maybe I’m wrong.
>
> Nah, who am I kidding; you’re no more going to be able to answer
> these than you’re able to acknowledge anyones opinion but your own.
> C’mon you whining, mewling coward; surprise me with a new method of
> avoiding answering questions. I wanna see you really EARN that
> contempt.

And you finish, yet again with the same style of attack and sneer.

Forest Fan wrote:

>
> I know plenty of Jewish people - who don't know Jesus as their
> saviour who know I am Jewish - in fact most people know I am Jewish -
> not Gentile. Yet I'm not going to start flashing their names around
> the internet - they deserve privacy.

Fair enough. However, due to your aforementioned repeated lying, I simply do not believe you. In fact, I don't even believe that you know lots of jewish people. Come to think of it, beyond this board and your cult, I don't think you know any people.

So by all means, carry on saying that Jewish people think you're jewish. Until you can prove this, it is dismissed as a lie.

Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
>
> And my old Grandfather - dead now. Before he was saved - he always
> considered me Jewish. There are other unsaved Jews who consider me
> Jewish.
>
> Name some. Because you see, you're now a proven liar when it comes to
> faith and so everything you say about faith can be considered a lie.
> So some proof please. Either that, or tell a few less lies so that
> the words you do spew forth become vaguely believable.

I know plenty of Jewish people - who don't know Jesus as their saviour who know I am Jewish - in fact most people know I am Jewish - not Gentile. Yet I'm not going to start flashing their names around the internet - they deserve privacy.

Forest Fan wrote:

>
> And my old Grandfather - dead now. Before he was saved - he always
> considered me Jewish. There are other unsaved Jews who consider me
> Jewish.

Name some. Because you see, you're now a proven liar when it comes to faith and so everything you say about faith can be considered a lie. So some proof please. Either that, or tell a few less lies so that the words you do spew forth become vaguely believable.

Forest Fan wrote:



>
> I don't feel humiliated - but isn't all this bickering on your behalf
Ø - a tad embarassing?



Nope. Why on earth would I be embarrassed about predicting yesterday exactly what you’d say to try and weasel out of answering questions? Heh. Honestly, after the amount of time I’ve spent making it clear just what a hypocritical liar you are, d’you think that you can put me off by a poor attempt to make me think “Oh my God; everyone will think I’m being petty; I’d better leave him alone…”

To clarify; this ‘bickering’ as you term it, is nothing more than exemplifying what a coward you are. And no, it isn’t going to stop.

> I'll acknowledge questions...... ...
>

No you won’t. As this proved, you’ll try and get out of answering them by pretending you’d never seen them in the first place. The whole point of the ‘bickering’ was that you were using your standard tactic to avoid answering questions.
It’s fairly clear that you didn’t acknowledge my catching you out because you don’t like it when your evasiveness and cowardice is made crystal clear.


>
> I was raised as a Hebrew Christian - and will always be a Hebrew
Ø Christian.

And I will ask again (because once again, you’ve avoided the question); what difference does the Hebrew lie you tell make? A Christian is a Christian. Are you implying that your false Semetic background makes you a better Christian?

>
> I know of Jewish people - they are athiests - who have never been to
> synagogue in their life - not that I've been except for a relative's
Ø batmizvah and a wedding. So - how do you remain Jewish?

They don’t. They are not practising jews, ergo they are not Jewish (in the sense of the Jewish faith). They are semetic people with Jewish family. Note that it’s only YOU calling them Jewish. As you’ve been proven to lie time and time again, your opinion on their jewishness is pretty much irrelevant. I was saying that you are considered a gentile. All you’ve offered in rebuttal is an abstract question that was easily answered. I’ll ask again; why are you claiming to be a Jew when you are a Christian?

>
> They are trying their best to follow the Old Covenant - it can't be
Ø done, but they try their best.

They do. So if you’re claiming to be Jewish, you have to do the same do you not? So how does this excuse your admission that you don’t?

>
> There are still commandments in the age of Grace. While if I fail to
> do certain practices I won't be put to death - we have to try and
Ø follow the New Covenant as thoroughly as possible.

Here was me thinking that true Grace would mean that there are no commandments to follow. If this is an age of Grace, we wouldn’t have to do anything at all would we? Yet here you are, making up commandments. This is either an age of Grace where no commandments are necessary, or it is an age of different commandments. It is not possible to be both. So which is it?
>
> You’re not jewish at all, are you?
>
Ø Yes I am.

Then how come you didn’t even know about kosher meat?


>
>
> You are showing that you know nothing about the background of Jewish.
Ø If you can acknowledge I'm White - you can acknowledge I'm Jewish.

The background of Jewish? Don’t you mean Judaism? Yes, I rather think you do. Put it this way dear boy; I’m aware of the theological impossibility of following both the Old and New Covenants. I’m aware of the commandments against consumption of blood, and the use of kosher food to comply with this. You are aware of none of this. All you’ve been able to do is say “You’re wrong and I’m right”, and offer no evidence as to the truth of that statement.

I’m afraid that taking the “I know you are but what am I?” approach simply exposes how few ideas you have left to perpetuate your self important nonsense. Like I say; it’s obvious that you can’t remember which lies you’ve told.
>

>
> As I have already explained Jesus tells us to examine ourselves and
> be more like Him. People tried to catch Jesus out - but each time He
> knew the answers. I could catch you out, in the same way you could
Ø catch me out, but you can never catch the scriptures out.

Hahahahahaha! If you could catch me out, why haven’t you? Answer: you can’t. I on the other hand have caught you out time and time again, proving your lack of knowledge about religion, your hypocrisy, and your cowardice.

If I can never catch the scriptures out, and if you use the scriptures all the time, then why am I catching you out so consistently?
>
>


>
Ø They inherited their sinful nature from the fall of man.

That, my dear boy, is not an answer. I asked how they inherited our sinful nature. All you’ve said is “They inherited it”. Answer the question as to HOW they inherited it; HOW the fall of man caused animals to inherit it. Also, answer the questions about your statement that there is less homosexual behaviour in the animal world. Coward.

>
> The Book of Mormon is a fictional book - which I have already
Ø demonstrated in a previous link.

Uh-uh Mr Liar; you said it was a Kids book, not a fictional book. My oh my…lying about what you’ve said? What a naughty little liar you are! Tell me; why are you lying about being caught out with your lies about Mormonism?


>
Ø It's called a typo.

2 typos? Both of which refer to killing? You give away how you really feel about me. Now who’s the angry one Gump? I’ve said that I expect to turn in Jim Jones Jnr. I’ve never implied killing you. Yet you have to me. Not very Christian is it?

>
Ø Funny - I've met so many practising Jews who consider me Jewish.

Really? Alas, I don’t believe you. What’s more, I’ve fired off an email to a rabbi at my former university to ask his opinion on whether you’d be considered Jewish. I’ll post it when I get the reply, and I look forward to hearing you wail that the rabbi is wrong and you’re right.

> Yes, He knows me and He knows you. He knows everyone walking this
> earth. But not everyone knows Him.
>

Nonsensical bull. I asked you directly; does he TALK to you personally, not whether he knows you. Answer the question. Coward.
Ø

>
> I would follow the Old Covenant today - if Jesus hadn't given us the
> New Covenant. On the practical side it is no longer even possible to
> keep the Old Covenant - where as it is possible to keep the New
> Covenant.
>
Again, more evasiveness. The Jews do not follow the new covenant. They follow the old. If you follow the New, then you are not a Jew. You are a semetic Christian. Don’t you agree that to be a jew you must follow the Old Covenant?


>
> I am Jewish in background - not 'religiously' as in following old
> Jewish laws of the Old Covenant. However Jewishness plays a huge part
> in Christianity as well as the Jewish feasts. All the feasts are
> worth remembering in particularly Passover and the Feast of Trumpets.
> All today remain valid feasts for Christians. Jesus was Jewish, was
> the King of the Jews - God is described as 'God of Abraham, Isaac and
> Jacob', where all the Hebrews stem from. Except for the two books of
> Luke and one book of Job - the entire rest of the Bible, all the
> other 63 books all have Hebrew authors. The Jews are God's chosen
> people - the eternal Heaven state will be entitled the New Jerusalem.
> Jesus is returning to Jerusalem - God says He will never forget about
Ø Israel. Israel is the only country with an assured future.


So despite the inclusive nature of Christianity, you’re now saying that being a Hebrew Christian makes you better than non-hebrew Christians?
Also, when you say “jewish in background”, do you mean your family are jewish? If so, what portion of your family are jewish?

>
> They believe that to atone for sin - they must continue doing these
> rituals. This was the correct ritual back in the time of the
> Israelites under Moses and Aaron - but is not possible today, due to
> the destruction of the Temples. We live in the age of Grace today and
> Jews should be following the new law Jesus set out for the atonement
Ø of sin - which is that He took it away on the cross.

So that is one element of the Old Covenant that can’t be followed, but the remainder of it is, is it not?
And I repeat the question; how can it be an age of Grace if we still have to follow arbitrary commandments? It can’t be both, so which is it?

>
> Actually Light, when you buy the meat products from your local
> Sainsbury's there is no blood on the beef or preferred meat. There
> are products that appear like blood, but in truth the meat is
> dripping in bi-products of blood - which even these are removed
Ø before cooking.

Mwah ha ha haaaa! Sorry, but you’re wrong. No, actually I’ll go further; you’re lying. Again. The meat has blood in it, and cooking to medium temperature doesn’t remove all of the blood.
All of which doesn’t really matter; you failed to answer the question or even address it. I asked about kosher meat; are you now saying that you do eat kosher meat? Or are you saying that Jews are wrong to insist on kosher meat and they would be able to eat any old steak from Sainsbury’s?

>
> Animals inherited a sinful nature. Humans are above animals and as
> such we build the houses and the cities. Because we are above the
Ø animals, they inherited our sinful nature.

Nope, that doesn’t answer the question. I asked “how did animals inherited our sinful nature”. Saying “They inherited it” is not an answer. Try again.

>
> Nature 'inherits' not copies. 'Inherits' and 'copies' are two vastly
> different words - look them up in the dictionary if you don't believe
Ø me.

Which is semantics in a vain attempt to avoid addressing the question. You’re so desperate to be left alone, you’ll clutch at any straw, won’t you?

Okay, I’ll rephrase it; if animals HAVE inherited our nature, then how can you say that anything is ‘natural’? Isn’t it impossible for anything to be ‘natural’ if animals inherited their nature humans? Or couldn’t we say that human nature is‘natural’ because, according to you, nature inherits its nature from us?

There. Now answer it.

>

>
> Statistics. Between 11% and 12% of humans are homo-sexual, at least
> in part. This figure in the animal world is vastly smaller and the
Ø types of animals involved is again vastly smaller.

Where did you get those figures from please? Provide evidence of the truth of these figures, because you’ve already proved that you’ll tell lies and pass them off as fact. Also, you haven’t provided any figures for the animal kingdom. You’ve just said “There are less”. Give me figures please.

>
> If I lived three and a half thousand years ago under Mosaic law and
> lived like I do today, I would still only be cut off from the
Ø Israelites - not a Gentile.

Ah! So you do accept that, as you would have been cut off by the Israelites, you are not considered a Jew by them?


>
> Apart from asking the question above. God knows everyone - even you.
Ø Yes - I have personally spoken to God.

I asked HE talks to YOU. Not the other way around. Answer the question please.
>

>
Ø By blocking them and saying 'that doesn't count as evidence'.

How did they block them? They didn’t, did they? You’ve just told a lie. Again. And they didn’t just say that either. They destroyed them as evidence using counter arguments.
>

>
> I posted links to websites showing without doubt evolution breaks the
> second law of thermodynamics while other posted links claiming ‘it
Ø might not’.

Bull. You posted links to articles that didn’t even acknowledge that the 2nd law states that entropy only prevails in a closed system. Those articles were discredited. You’re now lying about the fact that they were. And again, you’re avoiding answering the question. Kindly do so, you very small coward.

>
> There are two answers to this question. One would be ‘yes’ and the
> other would be ‘no’. You have effectively said I can’t say ‘no’,
> leaving me the only option as ‘yes’. But I like to have a choice and
Ø the answer is no.

Mwah ha ha ha! I ask you to rebut the assertion. And your answer? “Yes”. Nope, try again and this time answer properly. Oh, that was a poor attempt at confusion and misdirection by the way.

>
> You reject God in this life – He’ll reject you in the next life. You
> don’t want God in this life – He won’t want you in the next one. By
> rejecting God and His Son Jesus – you are rejecting the gift of
Ø Eternal Life.


Right…so this eternal love is conditional? You’re saying that God only loves people who love him, is that right?

>
> Edgy believed I maybe Archangel – I of course are not and are no
> other Newbies. In the same way I have assured people I am not
Ø Belldandy or any other members of SR.

That’s just a cut and paste of your previous answer, and if it wasn’t adequate then it certainly isn’t now. The question didn’t refer to Edgy; it referred to a staff member and your response. Nor did the question ask you to deny being all these newbies. It asked you to explain your response. So answer the question please.
>
?
>
> I am Jewish and I am not ashamed of that fact. Jewishness is the
> basis for the whole Bible and the future prophecies. Why would I be
Ø ashamed to be one of God’s chosen people?

Yet in the answer to question one, you’ve said you’re jewish in background not in religion. Now you’re claiming to be jewish in religion again. You’re losing track of your lies once more…

Also, Christianity rejects the jewish notion of any racial group being chosen. You’re now saying that Jews are chosen. Is that why you claim the impossibility of being a Jewish Christian? Because you want to be even more special than other Christians?
>
> 16. Don’t you agree that once you are a Christian, it doesn’t matter
> what your original background was as you are now Christian?
>
> Once you are a Christian – you are a Christian, yes – but it wipes
> off nothing. Since I accepted Jesus – my skin colour didn’t change –
Ø nor did my Jewish background.

And yet, in the answer to the question before this one, you say that Jews are the chosen of God. So that answer (that Jews are special in the eyes of God) directly contradicts this answer (that Christians are all equal).


>
> I have never eaten blood but I have eaten meat other than kosher
Ø meat, because we no longer live in the Mosaic age.

And that means you’ve eaten blood. Why do you keep denying this?

>
> I have answered all seventeen of your questions. Phew.

Ah, if only that were true. By my reckoning you have offered contradictory answers, lies, and bland assertions in place of answers. Therefore, I’m going to list the questions I now have for you. Quite a lot of them are the unanswered questions from my previous post. So, in order;

1. Don’t you agree that in order to describe oneself as being Jewish, one must follow the old covenant? If not, what do you think is needed to be Jewish?
2. You mention your Jewish background; what exactly is that? How many of your family are Jewish or semetic?
3. If we live in an age of Grace, why are we still required to follow commandments? If we are given grace, we cannot then be asked to do something in return; that defies the definition of the word. So therefore we are EITHER living in an age of grace, OR we have to follow commandments. Which is it?
4. Why do you keep using the phrase “dripping in blood” when I never said any such thing?
5. Are you implying that there is no need to eat kosher meat in order to fulfil the commandment on not eating blood?
6. Why are you continuing to lie about the preparation of meat in supermarkets, and why do you attempt to distinguish between ‘blood’ and ‘blood products’, when the commandment covers both?
7. Your answer to “how did animals inherit our sinful nature” was “they inherited it in the fall”. That is unsatisfactory. I’d like you to explain HOW they inherited it in the fall.
8. You used semantics to avoid answering my question on “what is natural”? So… if animals HAVE inherited our nature, then how can you say that anything is ‘natural’? Isn’t it impossible for anything to be ‘natural’ if animals inherited their nature humans? Or couldn’t we say that human nature is‘natural’ because, according to you, nature inherits its nature from us?
9. I asked you if God has spoken to you, not if you spoke to Him. So answer the question; has God ever spoken to you personally.
10. How exactly did the posters of this board block your pro creationism articles?
11. Are you trying to say that no argument against those pro creationism articles was put forward aside from “that doesn’t count as evidence”?
12. Do you acknowledge that the only time that argument was used was when some of the articles you posted used biblical quotation to prove or disprove physics?
13. You once again avoided answering my question concerning the omission of the phrase “in a closed system” from every one of your arguments using the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. I will ask you again; will you please try to rebut the example that I have used, using examples of your own.
14. I asked if you could rebut my assertion that your love of God is nothing more than fear. Your answer was “yes”. Yet you failed to then offer a rebuttal. Kindly do so.
15. Please post a link to, or tell me where you got the figures for percentage of rates of homosexuality in humans.
16. You have said that homosexuality in animals is less common, but you have posted no figures or evidence of any kind to prove this. Kindly do so.
17. Do you acknowledge that the reason you got torn apart over the book of Mormon was NOT because you said it was fictional, but because you said it “was originally written as a childrens book”?
18. Are you saying that God only loves people who love him back? If so, do you agree that Gods love cannot therefore be unconditional?
19. Why did you assume that a staff member complaining about people posting as newbies was talking about you?
20. What do you mean when you say “you can never catch the scriptures out”? Could you provide a specific example?
21. Do you accept that by admitting that the jews of the original mosaic law would have cut you off, you can make no claim today of being a jew?
22. On the one hand you’re saying that you’re a Christian, and the Christian faith rejects the notion of a particular racial group being any better than another in the eyes of God. Yet on the other hand you’re saying that you’re a member of the chosen people of God, the Jews. These statements directly contradict each other, and cannot be simultaneously true. Which of the two statements is true, and which is the lie?
23. Following on from question 16, if you are saying that you are a Christian, you are therefore rejecting the idea that one race is superior to another in Gods eyes. If that is the case, why do you keep restating your Semetic heritage?
24. Also following on from question 16, if you are saying you are a Jew, then you have to follow the Old Covenant, correct? Note I am not asking for another of your tortured misunderstandings of theology; I am asking IF you are a Jew then you would have to follow the Old Covenant. Not “Tell me what you think of the Old Covenant”.


I’ll expect…well, I expect more lies, evasiveness, and general cowardice from you in response to these, but it would be nice to imagine that maybe I’m wrong.

Nah, who am I kidding; you’re no more going to be able to answer these than you’re able to acknowledge anyones opinion but your own. C’mon you whining, mewling coward; surprise me with a new method of avoiding answering questions. I wanna see you really EARN that contempt.

Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Funny - I've met so many practising Jews who consider me Jewish.
>
> I read up to here and thought "Bolcloks"
>
> Never in a million years. The only Jews that consider you Jewish are
> the people of your church.

And my old Grandfather - dead now. Before he was saved - he always considered me Jewish. There are other unsaved Jews who consider me Jewish.

Forest Fan wrote:
> Funny - I've met so many practising Jews who consider me Jewish.

I read up to here and thought "Bolcloks"

Never in a million years. The only [edit]"Jews" (who aren't Jews) that consider you Jewish are the people of your church.

[edit] AND a nice double post to bump up the so important word count.

Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Light wrote:
> Heh. Thank you. If one is going to spend ones day destroying the
> self-obsessed lies of a hypocrite, one may as well be thorough.
>
> I'll post my response up here soon.
>
> Jolly good. I shall await it, thank you.

Here goes. ...

Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> What question have you for me Light - rather than just avoiding
> asking
> me a question?
>
>
> Heheheheh. Before I do, lets have a look at what I said yesterday at
> 9.53am...
>
> Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
>
> I want to get every issue sorted out before we move on to the next
> one - otherwise we'll have to continually go back to previous ones.
>
> No; you want to concentrate on one issue out of the many I've
> cornered you on, stick with that until the original post has been
> bumped off the front page, then ignore all the other questions.
> Then,
> if someone asks you to answer the other questions, you'll post
> "What questions?". If someone refers to the original post,
> you'll say "Which post?" You know; like you've done since
> the moment you started posting here.
>
>
> It's SO nice to see you being so predictable, proving me right about
> your cowardice and evasiveness, and doing so in such a way that it's
> crystal clear for all to see what a truly pathetic patch of
> ladyboxrot you are. Really, I take great satisfaction from seeing
> you
> Ø humiliate yourself like this.

I don't feel humiliated - but isn't all this bickering on your behalf - a tad embarassing?
>
> Well, look at that….Forest ignores the fact that he’s been owned.
> What a surprise…Are you going to even acknowledge that I’ve caught
> you out?

I'll acknowledge questions...... ...
>
>
>
>
> No - once a Jew - always a Jew is the motto said and it's right. I
> can never stop being White - can never stop being who I am. So,
> Light
> - do I suddenly become a Gentile then? Because no-one and even the
> Rabbis will agree - no-one can follow the Old Covenant and I don't
> try to as today we live in the age of Grace. The Lubivich may not
> consider me Jewish but Jesus certainly does. Jesus knew He was the
> Ø Son of God and was Jewish - He is still Jewish just like
> myself.
>
> Well yes you do; under Mosaic law, any non-Jew is a gentile. And you,
> as a Christian, are therefore a gentile. Do you see?

I was raised as a Hebrew Christian - and will always be a Hebrew Christian.

Anyone who was
> raised in the Jewish faith who then becomes a Christian, that person
> is no longer a Jew. Do you see? They are merely of semetic
> background. Do you see?

I know of Jewish people - they are athiests - who have never been to synagogue in their life - not that I've been except for a relative's batmizvah and a wedding. So - how do you remain Jewish?

> No-one can follow the Old Covenant? So why do all those Jews observe
> the Sabbath, and eat kosher meat? What, are they just showing off?

They are trying their best to follow the Old Covenant - it can't be done, but they try their best.

> If we live in the age of grace, why are you so determined to prove
> that you do not eat blood? Surely it shouldn’t matter in the age of
> Grace?

There are still commandments in the age of Grace. While if I fail to do certain practices I won't be put to death - we have to try and follow the New Covenant as thoroughly as possible.
>
> You’re not jewish at all, are you?

Yes I am.

You show an alarming lack of
> knowledge about Judaism, and that ignorance is exposed the second you
> try to talk to someone with more than a passing knowledge of the
> faith (ie. Me). As I’ve said, being a Jew is a matter of faith and
> you claim to be a Christian. As I’ve said (and as you’ve failed to
> answer), being both Jewish and Christian is a theological
> impossibility. You tried to say that you’re only semetic in
> background, but you seem to have forgotten that and now you’re trying
> to revert to saying that you’re part of the jewish faith as well.
> Keep up; you’re losing track of all your lies.

You are showing that you know nothing about the background of Jewish. If you can acknowledge I'm White - you can acknowledge I'm Jewish.
>
> Oh, and there’s the classic; Gump compares himself to Jesus in
> another chapter of his messianic fantasy. I have unfortunate news for
> you; Jesus didn’t avoid questions, or snap at people who’d caught him
> out. Jesus wasn’t a 14 year old fanatic with mental health problems
> either.

As I have already explained Jesus tells us to examine ourselves and be more like Him. People tried to catch Jesus out - but each time He knew the answers. I could catch you out, in the same way you could catch me out, but you can never catch the scriptures out.
>
>
>
> I found the article most interesting - but as a general rule, there
> is less homo-sexual behaviour then in the human world. But like I
> say
> animals have inherited a sinful nature from humans - not that the
> animals themselves are sinners - but they inherit our sin. I was
> most
> interested in the article about homo-sexual animals, although I have
> heard professors of animals who have stated that homo-sexuality in
> the animal world is unheard of. I am interested in finding out which
> Ø side of the arguement is correct.
>
> And how did animals inherit our nature? Did they copy us? Are you
> saying that animals are self aware enough to copy the nature of
> humans? If animals copy human nature, then how can anything ever be
> ‘natural’? As a general rule there is less homosexual behaviour in
> the animal world? Really? And how do you know this? Where do you get
> your figures from?

They inherited their sinful nature from the fall of man.
>
> A ‘Professor of Animals’? Mwah ha ha haaa….tell me, do you call
> doctors “Practitioners in People”? Do you mean a zoologist? If so,
> lets see a link to some of these articles you claim exist. Otherwise,
> this looks like another example of “Book of Mormon was a kids book”;
> a lie that you passed off as fact.

The Book of Mormon is a fictional book - which I have already demonstrated in a previous link.

>
> I would accept that by other people's demise I may be considered
> 'religious', in the same I may be consider 'Gentile' by your
> termology. However, God looks at me and doesn't see a relgious
> Ø Gentile - but quite the opposite.
>
> You mean terminology, not termination. The former refers to words,
> the later refers to killing. A Freudian slip perhaps?

It's called a typo.

It would seem
> so, along with use of the word ‘demise’.
> You would be considered a Gentile by every practising Jew on the face
> of the planet. How do you know that God looks on you and treats you
> differently to everyone else?

Funny - I've met so many practising Jews who consider me Jewish.
>
> Does he talk to you personally?

Yes, He knows me and He knows you. He knows everyone walking this earth. But not everyone knows Him.
>
> We've already gone through the second law of thermodynamics weeks
> ago
> - I found articles upon articles showing the scientific
> contradictions of the theory of evolution - while others tried to
> Ø cover up the articles.
>
> No dear boy; that’s not answering the question, it’s avoiding it. Not
> only that, but every article you posted was discredited. If I’m wrong
> on that, please do find one that hasn’t been ripped apart by the
> other posters. You won’t though; they all have. If by ‘covering up’
> your articles, you mean “disprove”, then I’d agree. So please, what
> do you mean by “covering up the articles”?
>
> So I’ll restate; I’ve offered you a simplistic definition of why your
> argument is wrong. I’d like you to offer a clear and concise argument
> of your own as to why the rebuttal I have provided is mistaken. A
> word of warning; saying “I’ve already proved” is not a valid
> argument; it’s evasive cowardice.
>
>
>
> I don't accept that point. Why would God send His One and Only Son
> to
> die for the World - because He loves the World. He loves everyone in
> the World and has died for each one of them and He has a place in
> the
> Ø Kingdom of God for anyone who wants to redeem it.
>
> I know you don’t accept it. That’s why I keep asking you to rebut the
> point.But all you keep saying is “You’re wrong because God loves us
> all” whilst offering nothing whatsoever to disprove the comparison
> I’ve made.
> Why would God send His one and only Son to die for the world, then
> threaten everyone who doesn’t acknowledge the sacrifice with eternal
> torment?
>
> You haven’t answered me; you’ve just mindlessly restated your
> position, so I’ll ask again. You have failed to respond to my
> accusation that your love of God is nothing more than fear. Could you
> either respond adequately to the point, or accept that you can offer
> nothing in rebuttal.
>
>
> Edgy continually insists that, 'I wouldn't be suprised if Forest Fan
> is Archangel', who of course I am not. Plus - I have heard all sorts
> of conspiracy theories about who I may also be - the one cropping up
> the most being Belldandy. I post under Forest Fan and Forest Fan
> Ø only.
>
> Which isn’t answering my question; why, when a staff member mentioned
> people posting as newbies, did you assume he meant you?
>
>
> So then you contemptible, egocentric, and deeply ignorant young
> boy…any answers to offer, or just more evasion? After all, we spent
> all day yesterday on the 1st of these and you still refused to
> answer
> why you’re so keen on distinguishing yourself from the Christian
> hoi-polloi by making up a fictional jewish background for yourself.
> That’s not even touching on the fact that you had to make up a truly
> pathetic lie to try and hide the fact that you’ve broken the new
> covenant by eating blood in a medium done steak (I’m afraid that
> anyone who has ever, ever cooked a steak sort of knows that one
> doesn’t wash it before cooking it. Not only that, but the only way
> you can actually avoid eating blood in meat is to eat kosher meat. I
> just wanted to see whether you’d even mention that, but instead you
> got drawn into this argument on medium steak, thus providing further
> proof of your ignorance concerning religion and particularly
> Judaism).
>
> I've answerd all points. But this is what bothers me - at the end of
> every post, you write a whole paragraph just attacking me - venting
> your anger verbally at me. I've said it before and I'll say it again
> - it's a shame.
>
>
> And it’s a shame that you feel the need to give inadequate answers,
> lies, half truths, and cowardice as your response. I’ve said it
> before and I’ll say it again; stop acting like a cowardly hypocrite,
> and I’ll stop attacking you. As is, you deserve every single insult
> heaped upon you and more.
>
> C’mon old yeller’, lets see what fresh heights of cowardice you can
> scale today!
>
> Ø Again - your anger is unbelievable. You must be a very angry
> person.
>
> Aw, thanks for the sympathy Forest. It fair brings a tear to my eye
> to see you try and rile me so that I’ll change the subject and leave
> you alone…It’s not gonna happen though. Any anger I feel is countered
> by the unbridled joy I experience at watching you twist and turn to
> avoid acknowledging the lies you’ve told.
>
> So then; a lot more questions arising from your answers. As you’re so
> gutless that you’ll take any excuse to avoid answering, I’ll set them
> out for you in nice, easy to understand terms…
>
> 1. If the definition of a gentile is “non jew” and you’re saying
> you’re a jew, then therefore you have to obey the Old Covenant. Would
> you agree, and if you don’t then why?

I would follow the Old Covenant today - if Jesus hadn't given us the New Covenant. On the practical side it is no longer even possible to keep the Old Covenant - where as it is possible to keep the New Covenant.

> 2. You now seem to have gone back to saying that you’re a Jew in the
> religious sense as you are claiming not to be a gentile. Is that the
> case?

I am Jewish in background - not 'religiously' as in following old Jewish laws of the Old Covenant. However Jewishness plays a huge part in Christianity as well as the Jewish feasts. All the feasts are worth remembering in particularly Passover and the Feast of Trumpets. All today remain valid feasts for Christians. Jesus was Jewish, was the King of the Jews - God is described as 'God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob', where all the Hebrews stem from. Except for the two books of Luke and one book of Job - the entire rest of the Bible, all the other 63 books all have Hebrew authors. The Jews are God's chosen people - the eternal Heaven state will be entitled the New Jerusalem. Jesus is returning to Jerusalem - God says He will never forget about Israel. Israel is the only country with an assured future.

> 3. If the Old Covenant can no longer be followed, then why do
> practising Jews all over the world keep following it as best they
> can? Are you saying they’re all wrong? Or all lying?

They believe that to atone for sin - they must continue doing these rituals. This was the correct ritual back in the time of the Israelites under Moses and Aaron - but is not possible today, due to the destruction of the Temples. We live in the age of Grace today and Jews should be following the new law Jesus set out for the atonement of sin - which is that He took it away on the cross.

> 4. You’ve eaten blood in medium steak and also because you don’t eat
> kosher meat, so therefore you’ve broken the Law. Why are you saying
> that we should follow the Bible literally when you don’t follow it
> yourself?

Actually Light, when you buy the meat products from your local Sainsbury's there is no blood on the beef or preferred meat. There are products that appear like blood, but in truth the meat is dripping in bi-products of blood - which even these are removed before cooking.

> 5. How exactly did animals copy human nature? If that is the case,
> wouldn’t they have built civilisations of their own?

Animals inherited a sinful nature. Humans are above animals and as such we build the houses and the cities. Because we are above the animals, they inherited our sinful nature.

> 6. If animals HAVE copied humans, then how can you say that anything
> is ‘natural’? Isn’t it impossible for anything to be ‘natural’ if
> animals copy humans? Or couldn’t we say that human nature is
> ‘natural’ because, according to you, nature copies it?

Nature 'inherits' not copies. 'Inherits' and 'copies' are two vastly different words - look them up in the dictionary if you don't believe me.

> 7. I’d like you to provide evidence for your assertion that
> incidences of homosexuality are more common among humans than in the
> animal kingdom.

Statistics. Between 11% and 12% of humans are homo-sexual, at least in part. This figure in the animal world is vastly smaller and the types of animals involved is again vastly smaller.

> 8. Do you accept that under Mosaic law, as a Christian you are
> considered a gentile by Jews?

If I lived three and a half thousand years ago under Mosaic law and lived like I do today, I would still only be cut off from the Israelites - not a Gentile.

> 9. How do you know God sees you differently to others? Does He talk
> to you personally?

Apart from asking the question above. God knows everyone - even you. Yes - I have personally spoken to God.

> 10. How has anyone tried to ‘cover up’ the pro-creation articles?

By blocking them and saying 'that doesn't count as evidence'.

> 11. Kindly answer the specific example I gave you concerning the 2nd
> Law of thermodynamics (namely that every article you have posted has
> neglected to mention that the 2nd law states that entropy only
> prevails ‘in a closed system’, and the world is not a closed system).
> Again, I must make clear that saying “I’ve already answered” when all
> of your previous answers were discredited is NOT a valid answer.

I posted links to websites showing without doubt evolution breaks the second law of thermodynamics while other posted links claiming ‘it might not’.

> 12. Respond adequately to my assertion that your love of God is
> nothing more than fear. Saying “no it isn’t” is NOT a valid answer.

There are two answers to this question. One would be ‘yes’ and the other would be ‘no’. You have effectively said I can’t say ‘no’, leaving me the only option as ‘yes’. But I like to have a choice and the answer is no.

> 13. If God loves us enough to send His son to His death, then why
> will he condemn us to eternal torment if we don’t love Him? How is
> that indicative of compassion?

You reject God in this life – He’ll reject you in the next life. You don’t want God in this life – He won’t want you in the next one. By rejecting God and His Son Jesus – you are rejecting the gift of Eternal Life.

> 14. Why, when a staff member mentioned people posting as newbies,
> did you assume he meant you?

Edgy believed I maybe Archangel – I of course are not and are no other Newbies. In the same way I have assured people I am not Belldandy or any other members of SR.

> 15. Why do you insist on manufacturing a Jewish background for
> yourself to distinguish yourself from other Christians?

I am Jewish and I am not ashamed of that fact. Jewishness is the basis for the whole Bible and the future prophecies. Why would I be ashamed to be one of God’s chosen people?

> 16. Don’t you agree that once you are a Christian, it doesn’t matter
> what your original background was as you are now Christian?

Once you are a Christian – you are a Christian, yes – but it wipes off nothing. Since I accepted Jesus – my skin colour didn’t change – nor did my Jewish background.

> 17. Do you accept that you have eaten blood as you have eaten meat
> other than kosher meat?

I have never eaten blood but I have eaten meat other than kosher meat, because we no longer live in the Mosaic age.
>
> C’mon yellowbelly; I’m captivated by your evasiveness, hypocrisy, and
> cowardice. I simply can’t get enough of your lies and misquotes. I’m
> entranced by how you give half answers at best, then get angry when I
> don’t blindly accept what you say.

I have answered all seventeen of your questions. Phew.