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So yeh, he is ruining this forum, leave him.
Surely however, this is ultimately their choice? God created us with the ability to make choices, and one of these is whether or not to follow him. We have yours facts, now let us make the choice.
Don't reply asking me a question about my beliefs in order to continue this further, I know what I think and I've had the alternatives presented to me, as has everyone else here. We're capable of making our own minds up.
(Reasoned attempt)
Look every thread at the top of this forum has you as the last response, shut the hell up and keep your views to where they are wanted....nowhere.
I'm not saying that you should shut up about what you believe. Because you and me both know thats not the way forward. Just pick the right times, and if people don't to be saved, then what can you do? For example, this guy Jonty at church did a talk on this matter last week. He suggested that the release of Mel Gibson's "the passion of christ" could be a good thing, as millions of people will see it, and if you go with someone, perhaps a non-christian, it would be an ideal time to tell them about Jesus.
But if people are complaining that you are forcing your beliefs onto them, then they're not going to listen and perhaps you are going about it in the wrong way.
> Colourless, that only works when both parties respect each other's
> beliefs.
>
> Forest Fan doesn't. We've tried your way but it doesn't work.
No that was the point in my quote. As a christian he should be quick to listen to you. He shouldn't put down what you have to say, but give you a chance. Its a difficult thing for him to do, will all these people slating his beliefs, only christians understand that. But he has to listen to what you have to say.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> I don't see why not, if there is no evidence, he is innocent until
> proven guilty. I don't care for David Blaine much, but I'm not going
> to say whether I think he did what he did or not, because I WASN'T
> THERE.
>
> And you weren't there when Jesus was around. Don't you get that?
But John, Luke, Matthew and Mark were and we have their Gospel accounts.
> There's no proof of the majority of the stories in the Bible.
We have them written in a factual book.
So
> without proof we're not going to accept the Bible as evidence.
Not
> any more than we'd accept the texts on ancient Greek or Babylonian
> creation myths as evidence. So can we let it drop now please?
Do you believe 150 year old theories about the origin of the universe as evidence? i.e. evolution.
Forest Fan doesn't. We've tried your way but it doesn't work.